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Old 2014-03-20, 16:12   Link #11361
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1- I mean s1 where ZAFT was first to break the treaty with freedom and justice and than Lacus steal freedom and give it to Kira
(which put ZAFT in panic since if EA find it they will have reason to use nuke again since it was ZAFT who break it first)

2-it's normal not to be hasty act when you are not part of any force involve in war
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Old 2014-03-20, 19:09   Link #11362
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I wasn't aware that there was a treaty during the first war.
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Old 2014-03-20, 19:18   Link #11363
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There was no treaty during the SEED.

The Alliance nuked Junius 7 so the Plants deployed the N-Jammers which prevented both sides from using nuclear technology. Freedom and Justice were simply the first mobile suits to have a N-Jammer Canceler.

It was only after SEED that they actually made a treaty officially prohibiting the use of nuclear weapons, but then during Destiny both sides pretty much broke it at the same time.

The Alliance tried to nuke the plants, again, and the Plants used their mini-Genesis cannon to stop them.
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Old 2014-03-20, 21:44   Link #11364
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The Alliance tried to nuke the plants, again, and the Plants used their mini-Genesis cannon to stop them.
The Stampeder was a defensive weapon. It was useless without there being a nuclear payload to exploit. Couldn't harm anyone that abided by the treaty.

Plant technically didn't violate the treaty until it deployed the Destiny and Legend Gundams. Even then, I've read that the fact they were nuclear powered was a secret. It wasn't until Gil pretty much won that Plant flagrantly broke the treaty by using Requiem (which may not have been nuclear) and unveiling Neo-Genesis.

P.S. Concerning the Stampeder, I've always that the principles behind it are how Nuclear-reactors work in MSes. It would explain why Justice could explode if the reactor bombarded the fissionable material with particles and the rate at which the bombardment took place could be ramped up spectacularly.
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Old 2014-03-21, 16:48   Link #11365
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hmm made some research -> it pretty wireds that EA and Muruta stop using nuke just because they can't make them in earth anymore since ZAFT in space not earth....
(they can just make them on one of their space colony right?)
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Old 2014-03-21, 17:07   Link #11366
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I want to stop this conversation for a moment just to bring news to you guys that this fall, there will be a new Gundam series by Tomino. Apparently, this is for children though.
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Old 2014-03-21, 17:12   Link #11367
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hmm made some research -> it pretty wireds that EA and Muruta stop using nuke just because they can't make them in earth anymore since ZAFT in space not earth....
(they can just make them on one of their space colony right?)
N-Jammers can be used in space as well.
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Old 2014-03-21, 18:34   Link #11368
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N-Jammers can be used in space as well.
I am pretty sure there are n-jammers in space too, considering how the Genesis had an n-jammer canceler.
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Old 2014-03-21, 18:58   Link #11369
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Plus the fact that the Alliance needed the cancelers to send the nukes as well.
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Old 2014-03-24, 11:06   Link #11370
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Aegis/Buster/Blitz/Duel SEED:Re manga exclusive upgrades

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Old 2014-03-24, 11:15   Link #11371
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Oh God! Is that Maga no Ikutachi on the back of Blitz?
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Old 2014-03-24, 15:31   Link #11372
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Oh God! Is that Maga no Ikutachi on the back of Blitz?
yes and its not the first time its used on blitz

meet Nebula Blitz : http://gundam.wikia.com/wiki/LN-GAT-X207_Nebula_Blitz
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Old 2014-03-24, 16:17   Link #11373
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Someone NEED to make a MG custom of these.
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Old 2014-03-24, 19:15   Link #11374
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Duel is mounted with a IWSP pack. Duel can dock with a variant of METEOR - Verne 35A/MPFM Multipurpose Flight Module. Blitz ultilizes technologies from Astray Gold Frame Custom for higher operational time and combat effectiveness.

(A bit confuse: Is Nicol still alive?)

What about Aegis? What is it upgrade? Someone please translate the text.

And let me guess: Perfect Pack for the Strike?

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Old 2014-03-24, 21:23   Link #11375
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Last I heard, the manga has the same exact storyline, so we can assume that they haven't past Nicol's death yet considering these images.
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Old 2014-03-25, 03:00   Link #11376
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Actually there was an interesting change in the most recent chapter.

Tolle died but Nicol is as of now still alive.
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Old 2014-03-25, 04:29   Link #11377
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Man, and I though Thunderbolt are stupid
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Old 2014-03-25, 05:23   Link #11378
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Man, and I though Thunderbolt are stupid
I actually thought the same thing.
Regardless, those upgrades are very awesome. Aegis is looking pretty slick. Can't say the same for the others, though.
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Old 2014-03-25, 05:56   Link #11379
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Wait. Where are you guys getting these info from? Anyways, Nicol should have died too. His death actually affected Athrun more, which made him gate Kira more. That was one of the driving factors leading to their final battle with their GAT suits.
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Old 2014-03-25, 23:40   Link #11380
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And let me guess: Perfect Pack for the Strike?
The chapter that featured the upgrades in action showed Kira utilizing the Perfect Strike, yes.

As for the manga's storyline change, well... let the continued whitewashing Kira commence. *sigh*
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