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Old 2008-10-04, 11:07   Link #501
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No, he said he'll use "dirty plans". It's true that what he does isn't very glorious. But "cheating" would imply there are rules to break.

I'm reminded of a scene in another fighting manga... Baki, search for the strongest, IIRC. Some guy defeats a martial artist by using concealed explosives. Another calls him on it. "What would you say if I pulled a gun on you and shot you?" "I'd say you were right. If you think a gun can help you win, use it." If you think Jihan was cheating, go complain to the referee, rulebook in hand. Oh, wait. There was no referee and no rulebook.
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Old 2008-10-04, 11:19   Link #502
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In the world of martial arts where tradition and honor is held in high respect, what he's doing is cheating.

If this wasn't the case, they'll just have one of the masters kill Kenichi instead. They are all following unwritten rules, that is undeniable. Jihan's problem is his superiority complex where he himself believes that he goes by a different set of rules.
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Old 2008-10-04, 11:35   Link #503
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Actually from Jihan's point of view it was never a contest or competition since from his point of view royalty and commoners cant even be compared together. He was just following his masters orders to kill Kenichi.



i dont think the clima affects this ppl the same as normal ppl. After all we are talking about the diciples of the strongest martial arts masters in the world.... running barefoot in snow cant even be compared to Kenichi's first stage of training xD
Well this is kinda spoiler, but Kouetsuji do say that Jihan was at disadvantage because of the climate at the next chapter.
Spoiler for D of D:
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Old 2008-10-04, 15:38   Link #504
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There is no rule for a master to kill a diciple but in this particular case Yomi and Ryouzanpakou are trying to get the title of strongest diciple. That is a rule set between them and not a "martial art" rule. Also i dont remember that in martial arts competitions "killing your opponent" is allowed either but no one seems to care about it in Yami...

Remember martial artists arent supposed to be good and just.... they are just ppl with above normal fighting skills and what they do with it depends on them. The only thing that can be compared between them is their power.... The concept of honor is different from each martial artist... each one has their own reasons to practice it and their objective.

Jihan was born a prince of a country and lived his entire life treated as a leader / superior human being .... im not saying that what he did was right or not but from his point of view he wasnt doing anything wrong or agaist his "honor". After all Yomi and Yami are considered to be a group of assasins.
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Old 2008-10-06, 03:19   Link #505
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There is no rule for a master to kill a diciple but in this particular case Yomi and Ryouzanpakou are trying to get the title of strongest diciple. That is a rule set between them and not a "martial art" rule. Also i dont remember that in martial arts competitions "killing your opponent" is allowed either but no one seems to care about it in Yami...

Remember martial artists arent supposed to be good and just.... they are just ppl with above normal fighting skills and what they do with it depends on them. The only thing that can be compared between them is their power.... The concept of honor is different from each martial artist... each one has their own reasons to practice it and their objective.

Jihan was born a prince of a country and lived his entire life treated as a leader / superior human being .... im not saying that what he did was right or not but from his point of view he wasnt doing anything wrong or agaist his "honor". After all Yomi and Yami are considered to be a group of assasins.
I can't even begin to point out how many errors there are in this statement my friend...

Anyway, the fight with shaggy and Kenichi ended the way I expected.
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Old 2008-10-06, 13:47   Link #506
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I have a question for those who are far in to the series. Does Kisara ever recognize Kenichi as a friend, or does she still talk down to him?
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Old 2008-10-07, 12:10   Link #507
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Chapter 191: Omg the kids have been brainwashed !

Spoiler for lol spoiler:
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Old 2008-10-08, 13:16   Link #508
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I have a question for those who are far in to the series. Does Kisara ever recognize Kenichi as a friend, or does she still talk down to him?
In the ragnarock arc she spoke good on him during her fight with freya she seems to have a lot of respect for his conviction(not fighting women)
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Old 2008-10-08, 13:24   Link #509
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She also knows he could easily beat her doesn't she?
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Old 2008-10-08, 16:05   Link #510
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Old 2008-10-08, 23:08   Link #511
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Found an alternative site for the manga, they are up to chapter 198

http://www.mangafox.com/page/manga/s...ciple_kenichi/


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Beware, is freaking slow, if you don't mind go ahead
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Old 2008-10-09, 07:50   Link #512
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Found an alternative site for the manga, they are up to chapter 198

http://www.mangafox.com/page/manga/s...ciple_kenichi/
they dont have it anymore...


Btw how long will the dod arc last? like till what chapter.
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Old 2008-10-09, 08:25   Link #513
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Btw how long will the dod arc last? like till what chapter.
End of the last fight : chapter 263
"Normal" life restart : chapter 267 (start of the second year of high school).

The DoD tournament start in volume 23 finish in Volume 29 for a total of (more or less) 70 chapters.
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Old 2008-10-09, 11:00   Link #514
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Well, with the translated versions out, we just met the Stanly siblings Castor and Pollux. Those two are an interesting due, espescially the girl. As for how far the manga is , I think it is currently at 306. Plus
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Old 2008-10-09, 11:23   Link #515
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As for how far the manga is , I think it is currently at 306.[/SPOILER]
Chapter 308 has been released this week
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Old 2008-10-09, 13:02   Link #516
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If the ppl translating keep releasing like this we will catch up in no time =D

Hmm so Miu's dad killed her mom eh?... no wonder Miu's trauma with snow.
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Old 2008-10-09, 13:40   Link #517
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D of D, Tournament is just about to start. Ah, me so happy.
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Old 2008-10-09, 18:15   Link #518
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I found the translation of 198 to be of interest. I never knew Castor and Pollux were entered into the tournament due to their master doing. I also like the the chapter art of 196 that has both YOMI and the Shinpaku Alliance, though the current chapter has Kenichi trying to become friends with one of the females. Also, I am really excited that the D of D is about to start. There are some interesting characters that are going to be introduced, especially a fighter that goes by X.
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Old 2008-10-09, 18:24   Link #519
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You gotta like the cover art of Tanimoto and Honoka on a date at the zoo. It looks so wrong, even though their only 3 years apart, lol.
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Old 2008-10-09, 19:48   Link #520
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You gotta like the cover art of Tanimoto and Honoka on a date at the zoo. It looks so wrong, even though their only 3 years apart, lol.
lol yeah... but i dont think the problem is their age difference but age itself... honoka is too young .
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