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View Poll Results: Nanoha - StrikerS - Episode 13 Rating
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Old 2007-06-25, 07:40   Link #201
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so the "King" is really a figure in TSAB that will truly fall and perish...hmmm
and "a tower will fall"...
and "a ship will sink"...

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so in other words, Hayate. A lot have already speculated that Hayate could be this so called "king". And the ship I'm referring to is Vice's Storm Raider being shot down while taking Hayate to safe place to recover...this could be a scenario of the last epic battle of StrikerS, the big battle at TSAB with the crumbling RF6 tower at the brink of collapsing...
But there are a lot of candidates for this "king"
-Hayate (commander of RF6, being the most important person to protect in battle)
-Carim (supporter of RF6 and leads the Church and its duties)
-Vivio (mysterious little girl who seems to have high importance to this relic case)
-Chrono (he's an admiral and a supporter of RF6)

but think about it, in episode 12, we almost had this same prophecy come true.
Dieci's buster rifle, it was aimed at a "ship" and in the "ship" was Vivio...it was almost shot down if Nanoha didn't step in to defend against it...this could make Vivio the "king". Not to mention, TSAB's tower was unprotected, so it could have been destroyed.

This is just all speculation, but this is how I interpret this Prophecy, but is it true Carim can see the future?
If she can, then she would play a heavy role in this whole situation in the future...


EDIT: Damn didn't know there were more parts to this prophecy...errr>_<

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a king shall fall and wings shall be revived from the holy land

the dead shall dance as the tower that lies within the middle earth is burned down

following that, ships that sail the infinite seas shall sink
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Old 2007-06-25, 07:45   Link #202
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No no...

You're still missing out on alot of other keywords... And that's just with the first sentence alone!


(Taken from Thisguy's translation... Cause who else could we turn to in this desperate time of need )

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"Under the Deceased King, the Wing will be revived from the Holy Land."
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Old 2007-06-25, 07:47   Link #203
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yea I noticed that there was more to this prophecy...errrr>_<...complicated stuff.
Why oh why did they decide to throw something like this to us....
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Old 2007-06-25, 07:50   Link #204
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yea I noticed that there was more to this prophecy...errrr>_<...complicated stuff.
Why oh why did they decide to throw something like this to us....
Because people didn't talk enough about this show last week... And taking a leaf out of CG books, Supernatural + Military = good business



P.S - I've sort of decoded the prophecy, but am waiting for any opposition against it...

The only thing I'm still stumped at is what the heck is this "wing" ?
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Old 2007-06-25, 07:58   Link #205
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With the really low quality in RAWs I don't blame the slow subbing.
Even the best I've seen had some shaking in them. With rest artifact-hell.
Actually there are some very high-quality raws out for all the eps(except 13, it'll take a few days). I have very satisfactory copies of the eps through 12. And it's easy to find the raws too, so it's not a matter of raw quality that's hindering them I think...
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Old 2007-06-25, 07:58   Link #206
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Because people didn't talk enough about this show last week... And taking a leaf out of CG books, Supernatural + Military = good business



P.S - I've sort of decoded the prophecy, but am waiting for any opposition against it...

The only thing I'm still stumped at is what the heck is this "wing" ?
The problem with prophecy is that it is normally completely opposite to what the viewer is thinking of.... I wouldn't be surpised that alot the the gribbish is to throw people in the completely oppsite direction.........

The most logical thing for "wing" will be dragon's wing..... but if this is not the case here then I can not even find a starting point to look for clues
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Old 2007-06-25, 07:59   Link #207
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Holy Land...isn't that the place were Precia wanted to go in season 1??
It was called Al Hazard or something like that...forgot but this wing could be related to everything from the beginning: Jewel seeds, the Book of Darkness, and now, the relics.
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Old 2007-06-25, 08:00   Link #208
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Old 2007-06-25, 08:06   Link #209
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I doubt it is old man Graham since it looks like he did or can bite the dust at anytime from Hayate's photo, Besides there is almost nothing linking him to the word "king" like Hayate or Vivio.

Hmm, Hayate's wings..... this could be interesting maybe Hayate goes MIA in the next 5 ep or so and comes back with even leeter hex...... I don't remember they state Yami no Sho was from Al Hazard.
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Old 2007-06-25, 08:07   Link #210
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"Mistress of the night sky" = Princess
and in A's, the guardian of Hayate was Graham...probably a King in disguise.
But why, why a "king"....is there even a royal, holy place for these royalty mages??

EDIT: I think we gotta think "outside of the box" for this prophecy...errr>_< brain scrambles....
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Old 2007-06-25, 08:09   Link #211
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I don't remember they state Yami no Sho was from Al Hazard.
Tome-sama is classified as a Lost Logia.
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Old 2007-06-25, 08:10   Link #212
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Although some decided to drop the word in theirs, there's one important prefix to Tower and the Ship; "法の", which I translated to "of Law".
So, both Ship and Tower has to be something relates to Law... most natural candidate will be TSAB itself, as Carim guessed.

Now, are there any other stuff that fit into any kind of law?
I mean, not only human-made law, law of nature or law of... whatever, anything, that connects to the Tower and the Ship...
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Old 2007-06-25, 08:10   Link #213
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"Mistress of the night sky" = Princess
and in A's, the guardian of Hayate was Graham...probably a King in disguise.
But why, why a "king"....is there even a royal, holy place for these royalty mages??
Vita called Hayate "夜天の王" the direct translation will be King of Night Sky so Hayate is vaild entry into this competition.
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Old 2007-06-25, 08:11   Link #214
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we are thinking too much, lets wait for the next ep.

ps.i wonder how does Erio know about Project F and his origins?
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Old 2007-06-25, 08:16   Link #215
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we are thinking too much, lets wait for the next ep.

ps.i wonder how does Erio know about Project F and his origins?
Well he was one of it's victims, so it figures they would tell him at least why he is growing up in the TSAB Special Protection Facillity.
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Old 2007-06-25, 08:16   Link #216
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wait deceased "King"...hmmm "wings"...Hayate has wings, but all the masters of the "yami no sho" are already deceased in some way and most of them were corrupted and evil, but could it be a possibility that the first master of the "yami no sho" was actually a king?
and he created a spell, an unusual one that creates "a wing" revived from the "holy land"...just maybe, this "king" was from this "holy land" and hid a special item that only the current master of the "yami no sho" can go to by using that special spell in the "yami no sho".
With this being said, Reinforce I can make an appearance as a spirit figure to guide Hayate into this situation...hhmmm
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Old 2007-06-25, 08:18   Link #217
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The problem with prophecy is that it is normally completely opposite to what the viewer is thinking of.... I wouldn't be surpised that alot the the gribbish is to throw people in the completely oppsite direction.........

The most logical thing for "wing" will be dragon's wing..... but if this is not the case here then I can not even find a starting point to look for clues
Well, can you think of any other scenarios to go with the first sentence?

So far people have been guessing what each keyword could represent, but remember that those keywords would have to make out a scene that would fit what the prophecy said.
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Old 2007-06-25, 08:19   Link #218
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Thanks, Draco.

My 2 cents:

Line 1: Both versions sound very much the same. However, I would say 舊的結晶 is more accurate for 旧い結晶. 太古的結晶 doesn't sound quite right to me, and might mislead the reader to conclude that it's talking about LL, especially for those who have been following flsnow's subs.

Line 2: I would take the first version over the second. I'm very sure 死せる王 does not translate to 死之王.

Line 3: Once again both are very similar, though the first version lets us feel a sense of helplessness as the Tower burns.

Line 4: I think version 2 might be closer here.

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旧い結晶と無限の欲望が交わる地
死せる王の下、聖地より彼の翼が蘇る
死者達は踊り、中つ大地の法の塔は虚しく焼け落ち
それを先駆けに数多の海を守る法の船は砕け落ちる
My poor attempt in translating the Chinese translations Draco posted:

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太古的結晶與無限的欲望交集之地
已死之王的翅膀從聖地復活
死者起舞,中間大地的法塔無奈地焚毀
隨後,守護眾多海洋的船也將崩潰
(The) Ancient Crystal and the Place where Infinite/Unlimited Desires meets;
The dead/dying King's Wings is resurrected/revived from the Holy Ground/Land;
The Dead dance, the Law Tower in the Middle/Central Land burns helplessly;
Following that, ships that protects the many oceans should perish as well.

Quote:
舊的結晶與無限的欲望交匯之地
在死之王之下, 他的翼將在聖地甦醒
死者們正在起舞, 中央大地的法之塔將會燒燼
它的先驅, 守護無數大海的法之船也會四散.
The old Crystal (note: or the Crystal of Old) and the Place where Infinite/Unlimited Desires meet;
Under the King of Death, His wings shall be awakened at the Holy Ground/Land;
The Dead are dancing, the Tower of Law in the Middle Land shall be burnt to naught;
Their pioneers, the ships of Law that guards innumerable oceans shall also be scattered.

Hope this helps somewhat .
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Tome-sama is classified as a Lost Logia.
I generally lump all ancient artifacts that can not be made by current tech as LL and not just those made in Al Hazard. Through this may be a misinterpretation on my part....

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Now, are there any other stuff that fit into any kind of law?
I mean, not only human-made law, law of nature or law of... whatever, anything, that connects to the Tower and the Ship...
I can't think of anything that fit at the moment.... so we are indeed anticapting the destruction of TSAB then , I can't remember who but someone may have hit the jackpot by predicting the destruction of TSAB by Ep 16-17
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Well he was one of it's victims, so it figures they would tell him at least why he is growing up in the TSAB Special Protection Facillity.
I wonder if he was considered a victim at all.He did not seem to suffer as a part of it.Not to mention whether he understood what they were telling him at the time.
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