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View Poll Results: Nanoha - StrikerS - Episode 13 Rating
Perfect 10 11 19.30%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 9 15.79%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 25 43.86%
7 out of 10 : Good 7 12.28%
6 out of 10 : Average 4 7.02%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 1 1.75%
4 out of 10 : Poor 0 0%
3 out of 10 : Bad 0 0%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad 0 0%
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Old 2007-06-27, 01:02   Link #381
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We got an inspection coming up, as well as major screentime for both Genya and Ginga... At least that much is for sure



Chrono: "I don't know, Hayate... I'm still trying to decide whether you or the army of drone is the more dangerous of the two..."



My fault, I intend to crush random idea so as to avoid going down weird and highly unlikely paths...

... This one has been meant with high resistance.

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Adding on from what Estavali has already said,

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Where the F are those chinese subs....
I admitted it was a random idea and I doubt they'll go down that path, but I still think it would work. For one thing, what I described was not a LEGITIMATELY revived Alicia, but rather a reproduction of Fate's birth with the heightened technological capabilities Scaglietti now has. I agree that, if Fate's power has absolutely nothing to do with her birth/creation or her being made from Alicia's genes, that is, if Fate's powers came from random luck or some unknown extra processes performed by Precia, then there is no way an Alicia clone would have any value. But if there is any relation at all between Fate's method of birth and her abilities, then replicating Fate would be good. If any such relation exists then replicating Fate would be very valuable indeed, since past research could allow a more thorough enhancement of any inherited abilities and memory manipulation could result in a child that kills without encouragement.
As far as project F, I looked back over the first series and I'm pretty sure they said that Precia had already been working on some shady project involving creating living fighters to replace familiars, that Alicia had died in an accident related to her research, and that Precia then used the discoveries made in the project to produce Fate. If that is a correct interpretation, then Project FATE probably was already underway before Alicia died.
Please forgive me. If someone asks a question or argues an idea I present, I naturally try to either find my error or better present my case. This is particularly true when I hear a repetition of an argument I'd tried to answer. Honestly, when I make these "random" suggestions, I really don't mean to go into meaningless discussions about whether a hypothetical situation is feasible. Please, if anyone wants to continue this ridiculous debate, find or make some other thread to do it in so we can return to talking about the episode. It's a great episode with lots of great story elements, so it's sort of a waste to have this stuff popping up throughout.
So, back to the actual topic, I got a higher-quality RAW and listened carefully to the prophecy. The prophecy clearly says "KA no tsubasa". There is no "re" between the "ka" and the "no". Kare no tsubasa would be obvious but it would require one to imagine an additional syllable that simply does not exist. So again I ask, what does the phrase "ka no tsubasa" mean?
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Old 2007-06-27, 01:16   Link #382
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Well, one meaning I know of for "Ka" is mosquito…
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Old 2007-06-27, 01:18   Link #383
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So the mosquito's wings are resurrected, and the tower of law and the ships that protect the vast seas will fall before them? Something tells me Carim's from the southern states...
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Old 2007-06-27, 01:31   Link #384
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So the mosquito's wings are resurrected, and the tower of law and the ships that protect the vast seas will fall before them? Something tells me Carim's from the southern states...
That's just one meaning, I doubt it's the intended one. When talking about a mosquito's wings, the word is usually "hane", not "tsubasa" anyways… I think.
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Old 2007-06-27, 01:39   Link #385
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Off topic and random, but all this talk about the wings somehow brings me back to the song 'Moments" by Ayumi

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WHy this sons? I don't know, it's just the one that made the most impression... And if things get dark and heavy near the end it would fit the mood
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Old 2007-06-27, 03:42   Link #386
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I think I like the idea of having Project F be the basis of reviving someone using someone else's memories, who had passed away...(kinda has that whole Kingdom Hearts/"Heartless"/"Nobody" kind of element to it...)

Although Fate was suppose to have no powers, seems like Scaglietti likes to revive deceased people using their memories in a body created to have mage powers...since Erio is a result of Project F, he could have someone else's memories and maybe, a very important person's memories...this can also go for Vivio as well, she could have some important memories stored in that head of hers...although, we can't be certain if she directly came from Scaglietti's lab...maybe she did, but there was no confirmation on that in the show, other than Shamal classifying her as an artificial being....maybe Erio might know more about "Project F" than we all thought...hhmmm
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Old 2007-06-27, 03:48   Link #387
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I think I like the idea of having Project F be the basis of reviving someone using someone else's memories, who had passed away...(kinda has that whole Kingdom Hearts/"Heartless"/"Nobody" kind of element to it...)

Although Fate was suppose to have no powers, seems like Scaglietti likes to revive deceased people using their memories in a body created to have mage powers...since Erio is a result of Project F, he could have someone else's memories and maybe, a very important person's memories...this can also go for Vivio as well, she could have some important memories stored in that head of hers...although, we can't be certain if she directly came from Scaglietti's lab...maybe she did, but there was no confirmation on that in the show, other than Shamal classifying her as an artificial being....maybe Erio might know more about "Project F" than we all thought...hhmmm
Hmm,if erio gets captured and mindraped for his memories, i wonder how Caro would react to this news?


ps. but just who is such an important figure the doc's looking for?
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Old 2007-06-27, 03:55   Link #388
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You know, it was never really said that the Numbers were clones...

In fact, it was never really said that Jail was working on Project F

There's still one more faction out there remember? They are the ones transporting the relics, and they are the one who are messing around with Project F.A.T.E.
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Old 2007-06-27, 04:04   Link #389
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yea, after episode 12, I think most of us got the idea of the Numbers not being clones of anyone, especially to the members of RF6...they were just uh, relic beings??

but we have yet to see what this Project F was all about and yea, forgot about those shadowy ones transporting the relics in the background...but how are they messing around with Project F?
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Old 2007-06-27, 04:13   Link #390
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They're genetically engineered, that's for sure.

What the numbers are exactly... Will be revealed next week
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Old 2007-06-27, 04:26   Link #391
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I've read that there is an inspection is taking place in next week's episode also (haven't seen episode yet, but will see it soon in RAW)...is it orders from that ground forces general??
sounds serious...plus its titled "mothers and children".
Maybe some Vivio and Nanoha interaction to thicken the plot more on who exactly is Vivio or what she can do...
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Old 2007-06-27, 05:22   Link #392
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I've read that there is an inspection is taking place in next week's episode also (haven't seen episode yet, but will see it soon in RAW)...is it orders from that ground forces general??
sounds serious...plus its titled "mothers and children".
Maybe some Vivio and Nanoha interaction to thicken the plot more on who exactly is Vivio or what she can do...
Yeah, there's an inspection by the Lt. General that's going to happen... And because RF6 has done nothing wrong, they're highly likely to be in deep trouble in this inspection...

Oh where's Chrono Nii-chan when you need him to cover them politically?

Anyway, from that title the focus is obviously going to be on Vivio, also from the spoilers we know that some revelation about the numbers would be revealed.
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Old 2007-06-27, 05:43   Link #393
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The prophecy clearly says "KA no tsubasa". There is no "re" between the "ka" and the "no". Kare no tsubasa would be obvious but it would require one to imagine an additional syllable that simply does not exist. So again I ask, what does the phrase "ka no tsubasa" mean?
Yep, it's "Ka no Tsubasa". Sorry Estavali but I'm not agreeing with you this time
Although whoever person that put up the transcript chose to use "彼の", or using 旧い instead of 古い for better looking, it was rather confusing I must say.

"Ka no (something)" in question, imho, is best translated to be "The (Whatever)", or something similer, for it's often prefixed for something that is known by everyone or close to.
One example is that "You Know Who" of Harry Potter is translated to "Ka no hito" in Japanese version of movie, if that can be an example.

So it's not necessarily His wing, it's not limiting gender at all.

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Old 2007-06-27, 05:52   Link #394
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The episode preview are getting more vague as time goes by........sigh.
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Old 2007-06-27, 06:30   Link #395
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Yep, it's "Ka no Tsubasa". Sorry Estavali but I'm not agreeing with you this time
Although whoever person that put up the transcript chose to use "彼の", or using 旧い instead of 古い for better looking, it was rather confusing I must say.

"Ka no (something)" in question, imho, is best translated to be "The (Whatever)", or something similer, for it's often prefixed for something that is known by everyone or close to.
One example is that "You Know Who" of Harry Potter is translated to "Ka no hito" in Japanese version of movie, if that can be an example.

So it's not necessarily His wing, it's not limiting gender at all.
So "THOSE wings"...
Well, it certainly sounds more likely than the TSAB getting overthrown by mosquitoes.
Certainly makes me even more curious about the wings. Whatever they do I'm sure we'll all be shocked, and, so long as it doesn't involve Sakura, I think I'll like it.
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Old 2007-06-27, 06:45   Link #396
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So "THOSE wings"...
Well, it certainly sounds more likely than the TSAB getting overthrown by mosquitoes.
Certainly makes me even more curious about the wings. Whatever they do I'm sure we'll all be shocked, and, so long as it doesn't involve Sakura, I think I'll like it.
"Wings" from a "Holy Land" ?

How many people think that the mech parodies would still continue?


*coughsneezeangelcoughsneeze*
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hmm .......

lately ive noticed the dicussiont threads are getting shorter.the creators are leaving too many questions.
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Old 2007-06-27, 06:47   Link #398
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hmm .......

lately ive noticed the dicussiont threads are getting shorter.the creators are leaving too many questions.
*Shrugged*

Sooner or later we'll just revert back to the usual conversions...
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Old 2007-06-27, 06:53   Link #399
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well I seen the episode in RAW form and well alot of things are starting to move, story wise, that is....

Spoiler for thoughts on this episode:


Looks like it could be Regius vs. RF6, or to put more exact...Regius vs. Hayate...and this prophecy has too many meanings to make us fans speculate on whats to come if this Prophecy is set in motion in future episodes.
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Old 2007-06-27, 07:09   Link #400
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Spoiler for thoughts on this episode:
Unfortunate, that seems most likely to be the case, as in episode 14's spoiler

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So chances are they'll gonna try to take her away.

The good news is however, that they won't suceed because we have SS02

The bad news is however, that Hayate would most likely have pissed Regius so much that he'll make it his personal war to get rid of them.
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