2007-10-12, 15:42 | Link #461 |
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Two persons will not be lovers if they have to argue on everything about who is right. As the man, just apologize and take the responsibility. it will not hurt anything. And yes, Nanaka has every reason to be mad at Sana in that incident, for yes, she recognized him at the first sight, while he did not... Being ignored hurts even more than being offended...
(and Sana is not Aizawa Yuuichi, who would just say afterwards that he was making a cold joke~~~) |
2007-10-12, 17:01 | Link #462 | |
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Still, your comment reminded me of something one of my married friends said, when it came to arguments with his wife -- "I've found that I can either be right, or I can be happy. I've chosen to be happy." I suspect Sana will end up making the same choice, if given the opportunity. |
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2007-10-12, 17:05 | Link #463 | |||
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He didn't avoid her, she ignored him. Cause he's a man, he should do so? Don't discriminate and say one gender should be able to do better at certain things. Girls can use "boku", guys can take care of flowers, etc, etc. and there has been proof that a man doesn't always have the potential to do better just cause he was born a guy. Short version: Don't use his gender for an excuse. We have plenty of anime (and real life) where one gender can act in many different ways. Quote:
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Plus, she slapped him, ignored him, ditched him, etc. People stutter at times. Sometimes people run out of things to say or don't know what to say. Sorry that Sana isn't a saint.
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2007-10-12, 17:16 | Link #464 | |
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Gees, this shouldn't be too tough, but we are talking about anime here. |
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2007-10-12, 17:20 | Link #465 |
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I'll try to be the mediator here since I kind if see where both sides are coming from.
Sana was wrong because he did not recognize Nanaka. He should apologize to her for that and if that's the whole issue I think it will be enough for her. He never really apologized properly and tried to talk to her like nothing happened. Of course, this is partially Nanaka's fault - which brings me to my next point. Nanaka was wrong because she slapped him. She clearly overreacted. As a result, Sana finds it difficult to approach her and talk to her properly. He is afraid to even look her in the eyes and his talk is scattered - too much "umm...anoo.." etc. Her acting bitchy towards him makes the situation even worse. So, in the end both of them are partially at fault and should apologize to each other. If Sana was more of a man and Nanaka was less of a bitch there would be no problem. Of course, that's what makes the show interesting and dramatic. The analysis above is correct only if the reason that Nanaka is mad at him is because he did not recognize her. If there is a deeper reason, which I think there is, then we'll have to wait and see what it is before judging whether Nanaka was right to be angry or not.
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2007-10-12, 17:56 | Link #466 |
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The anime seems to imply that there's a deeper reason than just Sana not recognizing her.
I'd wait and see what's really going on before judging their actions. For all we know, Sana could've really done something bad to deserve it. |
2007-10-12, 18:03 | Link #467 | |
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2007-10-12, 18:28 | Link #468 | |
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Seriously, though, you're right; in any real-world relationship, there has to be some give and take; on issues where an agreement simply can't be reached, both people are going to have to learn to give in from time to time. Still, the comment does sum up a dynamic that can be seen in relationships where one side is a dominant, demanding type and the other side is more concerned with maintaining peace than with asserting him/herself. That reminded me of what I'm seeing between Nanaka and Sana so far; perhaps that will change in future episodes. It'll be interesting to see if there is some deeper reason for her attitude -- but he's been out of town for five years; what could he have done? Forgotten to write her? It seems that he's been out of touch with everyone until his return, so I doubt that's it...yet she clearly looks mad when she first spots him at the shrine. Ah well...that's why we keep watching, right? |
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2007-10-12, 18:54 | Link #469 | |||
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As it stands, he's made several attempts to open up to her (who's behaving badly, no matter how you look at it), but given how Nanaka has consistently rebuffed them, there's little more he can do. If that's how she wants it, so be it. Quote:
Some of the hate probably stems from the fact that Nanaka seemingly lacks even a minimal amount of social grace (definitely not a norm - while people may hold grudges against each other, there's usually an attempt to remain semi-cordial while in public), which gives off the impression of a contemptuous, self-centered person. If someone seems nasty and/or abusive, there's going to be less understanding. Personally, I'm interested in seeing how Nanaka develops over time. Quote:
However, I wouldn't rule out the classic explanation: - girl's crush/close friend leaves without saying a word - said crush (whom she cares deeply for?) never contacts her during those five years - guy returns but doesn't recognize her (all this happening as if Sana considered their relationship/friendship trivial, like it never mattered to him) |
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2007-10-12, 19:23 | Link #470 | |
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second possibly, but i don't think that could be it. Something so easy to figure out. third happend. And when she was coming toward him in ep1 I don't think she was going to slap him, tha slap came after he said it was there first meeting. I tc an be seen whe she grips tightly her bag.
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2007-10-13, 00:18 | Link #471 |
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I can't see how people can blame Sana for not recognizing her. It's been 5 years and they have changed from wee little children into teenagers. Personally I am hoping for a deeper reason that justifies Nanaka's actions.
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2007-10-13, 01:28 | Link #472 |
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My final conclusion on this issue... no need to argue more before we know more about the plot...
1. Definitely deeper reason for Nanaka's rage. Otherwise the whole plot of this anime is flawed; 2. But Sana not recognizing her is the last straw; 3. Sana never being able to clearly apologize added to the insult. Some of you guys claimed that Nanaka did not allow her. Well, I do not think you need someone's permit to apologize to her. Whether she accepts it is another matter; 4. Sana still cares for Nanaka, and the whole plot will be revolving around the relationship between these two. I think we should give the characters the benefit of doubt. Everyone behaves for a reason before proven stupid. For Nanaka, the reason of her acts is still unknown, and revealing that will be the major driving force of this anime. For Sana, his inability to get himself conveyed is his own character, although like all heroes, he got lucky in the end of the episode 2. I enjoy watching this show because I want to know what really happened between Sana and Nanaka during that 5 years. I would be very disappointed if this story failed to demonstrate that, since now the plot is naturally set toward that direction. |
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By the way, what do you mean by "everyone behaves for a reason before proven stupid" are you stipulating that though there is a reason for everything, in the end it's all meaningless because they are stupid? Quote:
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2007-10-13, 05:42 | Link #474 |
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I think what he is saying is that people act a certain way when defending there point a view. And when proven to be wrong they act a differently than before. Wording was wrong and may get others confused. Look at this way: Nanaka is acting this way for something Sana (supposedly) did wrong. When or if she is proven to be wrong her attitude and her personality may do a complete 180. But i doubt she would change that attitude, they would be together but she with the same thing. Can look at it like Suzuka.
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2007-10-13, 06:15 | Link #475 | |
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There is a saying that goes, "it's easier to forgive someone for being wrong then for being right" similarly should Nanaka be proven wrong (meaning Sana is right, or not to blame) it would only strengthen the facade she's already put on, in a sort of defensive reaction. It's one of those complicated issues that would probably take time to resolve before any major changes in her attitude occur.
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2007-10-13, 07:07 | Link #477 |
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Hmm..one of the other nice Harems this season. Really liked how the OP was made. Seems like I have seen a similar concept before..but ah..what the hech...I really liked how they made it. The characters are pretty cool. The main lead seems pretty stupid though..because if I was in his place..I think I would have tried to break the ice by apologizing. As for the girl Nanaka...Hopefully her anger is due to something else and not just because, the guy did not recognize her.
The other characters are cool n all..but Aoi-chan's voice is really annoying Still..I m enjoyin the episodes..and hopefully it will fulfill my expectations |
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