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Old 2007-08-09, 21:25   Link #1
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Exclamation How did the 4th get the demon into Naruto

This could of been a thread before but, I want to know how did the 4th get the nine-tails into Naruto? If Naruto was just born in the hospital all away over here and if the 4th was in the middle of the village fighting the nine-tails all away over there how was it possible for the demon to be put into Naruto. Unless Naruto was already there so they can put it into Naruto. What would make Konaha any different, wanting to use the power of the demon for their own. I think they wanted to use Naruto as a weapon, What you think?
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Old 2007-08-09, 21:57   Link #2
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Im pretty sure that they had Naruto Before he sealed the nine tails fox into him, and i think that the Third Hokage held Naruto while the 4th sealed away the fox.
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Old 2007-08-09, 22:04   Link #3
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ok this topic makes no sense AT ALL
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Old 2007-08-09, 22:16   Link #4
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Sure it makes sense. Though it does bring up the Naruto a riencarnate Yondaime theory. I cant think of how they got it into Naruto if his isnt though.
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Old 2007-08-09, 22:24   Link #5
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of course they wanted a weapon! THAT IS THE WHOLE POINT OF THE TAILED BEASTS! all of the villages seeked greater power so that they could be no. 1. -reason garra was created-
because of the immense power that these tailed beasts contained, the jinchiriki were always outcasts because people were afraid of them.

the nine tails, the gretest tailed beast of em all... who wouldn;t want to use it?
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Old 2007-08-09, 22:26   Link #6
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What I dont get is why they create Jinchuuriki, then shun them like they decided to be that way.
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Old 2007-08-10, 01:36   Link #7
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Old 2007-08-10, 10:08   Link #8
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Can anyone like state if the 3rd Hokage was holding Naruto whilst the forth sealed the fox inside him? Like a picture cos I never saw that in the 1st Episode.
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Old 2007-08-10, 11:20   Link #9
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But no one said that Naruto is a weapon to thier village... or maybe i missed it?

but Gaara's villagers said it numberious times that he was just a weapon and nothing else...
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Old 2007-08-10, 13:08   Link #10
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If I made the mugger a mugger i cant hate him for bieng a mugger.
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Old 2007-08-10, 13:59   Link #11
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But no one said that Naruto is a weapon to thier village... or maybe i missed it?

but Gaara's villagers said it numberious times that he was just a weapon and nothing else...
But look at Naruto he's the hardest working ninja in the village.
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Old 2007-08-10, 14:33   Link #12
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of course they wanted a weapon! THAT IS THE WHOLE POINT OF THE TAILED BEASTS! all of the villages seeked greater power so that they could be no. 1. -reason garra was created-
because of the immense power that these tailed beasts contained, the jinchiriki were always outcasts because people were afraid of them.

the nine tails, the gretest tailed beast of em all... who wouldn;t want to use it?
In that case, why Naruto wasn't told what he was and how to control it (he had to wait for Jiraiya to start learning how to draw Kyubi's power) ? Why is it that no one even think he can draw Kyubi's chakra without going berserk (Kakashi freaked out during the Zabuza arc, Asuma and Kurenai comments to the Neji fight) ? It should be the very least they would expect from their weapons.
I think no one in the village has a clue of what Naruto really is and what he can do and they don't want to mess with him because they are afraid of what could happen.

The only exception is Jiraiya who just has to see Naruto's molding chakra to understand the way the seal works. Even when the seal has been messed up by another sannin.

IMHO, Kyubi wasn't sealed to create a new weapon (deliberately turning a child into a monster is no better than what Oro was doing and totally out of Konoha's ways) It was the only way to beat Kyubi. (Oro's sword which can cut through anything can't even scratch the shield of a 4-tailed Naruto. Now imagine how tough is a fully released Kyubi)

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But look at Naruto he's the hardest working ninja in the village.
He wasn't until he got messed up by Sasuke
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Old 2007-08-10, 14:45   Link #13
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There's a nice manga cover which shows Yondaime doing the sealing process where it looks like 9 (or something close to that) people are helpng with that process...anyway it's definately not a concrete way of how the sealing happened, but it would be interesting if he had help from other people to do it.
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Old 2007-08-10, 14:55   Link #14
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In that case, why Naruto wasn't told what he was and how to control it (he had to wait for Jiraiya to start learning how to draw Kyubi's power) ? Why is it that no one even think he can draw Kyubi's chakra without going berserk (Kakashi freaked out during the Zabuza arc, Asuma and Kurenai comments to the Neji fight) ? It should be the very least they would expect from their weapons.
I think no one in the village has a clue of what Naruto really is and what he can do and they don't want to mess with him because they are afraid of what could happen.

The only exception is Jiraiya who just has to see Naruto's molding chakra to understand the way the seal works. Even when the seal has been messed up by another sannin.

IMHO, Kyubi wasn't sealed to create a new weapon (deliberately turning a child into a monster is no better than what Oro was doing and totally out of Konoha's ways) It was the only way to beat Kyubi. (Oro's sword which can cut through anything can't even scratch the shield of a 4-tailed Naruto. Now imagine how tough is a fully released Kyubi)



He wasn't until he got messed up by Sasuke
Jiraiya is a legendary sannin and i believe that no one dare to play with kyuubi power and naruto's life.. and i agree that they wait for someone who could taught him the right way to control kyuubi power and not to get it out of control... that would be the reason why no one dare to tell naruto when he was younger or he might try to use it and that power would get out of control...

its a good thing that Jiraiya thought him...
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Old 2007-08-10, 16:02   Link #15
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it says in the anime that yondiame (the 4th who sealed kyubi into naruto) said he didnt want naruto to be used as a weapon and to be made like a hokage in respect and honor because it was naruto who saved the village and my theory i wont put it as a spoiler because its only a theory is that naruto is the 4ths son
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Old 2007-08-10, 18:07   Link #16
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But no one said that Naruto is a weapon to thier village... or maybe i missed it?

but Gaara's villagers said it numberious times that he was just a weapon and nothing else...
That's because the Kyuubi was never sealed before...and besides...there is definetly proof that the Kyuubi was responsible for the deaths of many shinobi and villagers of Konoha.

The Shukaku had a former host (before Gaara) that's why they used the Shukaku and Gaara. Because they needed more power (probably because the Sand wasnt so powerfull in the past...Konoha was probably the last village to make use of those bijuu powers)

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But look at Naruto he's the hardest working ninja in the village.
I am positive that Lee is the most hardworking shinobi.

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of course they wanted a weapon! THAT IS THE WHOLE POINT OF THE TAILED BEASTS! all of the villages seeked greater power so that they could be no. 1. -reason garra was created-
because of the immense power that these tailed beasts contained, the jinchiriki were always outcasts because people were afraid of them.

the nine tails, the gretest tailed beast of em all... who wouldn;t want to use it?
That's right. The Bijuu were (also) the reasons of the Ninja Wars. And it's probably just that no one before Yondaime could defeat the Kyuubi.

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In that case, why Naruto wasn't told what he was and how to control it (he had to wait for Jiraiya to start learning how to draw Kyubi's power) ? Why is it that no one even think he can draw Kyubi's chakra without going berserk (Kakashi freaked out during the Zabuza arc, Asuma and Kurenai comments to the Neji fight) ? It should be the very least they would expect from their weapons.
I think no one in the village has a clue of what Naruto really is and what he can do and they don't want to mess with him because they are afraid of what could happen.

The only exception is Jiraiya who just has to see Naruto's molding chakra to understand the way the seal works. Even when the seal has been messed up by another sannin.

IMHO, Kyubi wasn't sealed to create a new weapon (deliberately turning a child into a monster is no better than what Oro was doing and totally out of Konoha's ways) It was the only way to beat Kyubi. (Oro's sword which can cut through anything can't even scratch the shield of a 4-tailed Naruto. Now imagine how tough is a fully released Kyubi)
I believe the same thing. I cant be specific because certain events are yet to come in both anime & manga. But certain past/future battles proved the power of the Kyuubi.

I think it was indeed impossible to physically dominate the Kyuubi. It's hard to believe that a human could permanently hurt/wound the Kyuubi. Even if they wounded the Kyuubi still heal instantly with near or infinite chakra. That also works as an armour (vs Sasuke) and can deflect things (vs Haku/Sasuke) and maybe even more.

I think that's the reason why so many died. Because all efforts were useless/pointless in the end. Because of it's regenerative abilities.
But still Naruto served as a tool a weapon in the end.

And i think that nobody knew how the seal worked. The fact that Jiraiya can read the seal makes me strongly believe that he knows or even taught the jutsu to Yondaime.
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Old 2007-08-11, 03:25   Link #17
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There's a nice manga cover which shows Yondaime doing the sealing process where it looks like 9 (or something close to that) people are helpng with that process...anyway it's definately not a concrete way of how the sealing happened, but it would be interesting if he had help from other people to do it.
Which chapter?
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Old 2007-08-12, 06:55   Link #18
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Which chapter?
It's the one with the black swirls...I try and see if I can find it again.

EDIT - it's in chapter 1 with yondaime at the bottom.

Here is the pic:

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I think...there is another one I have seen....gawd...a long time ago. Anyway, I am thinking (my theory) each tail is being controlled while the sealing process is happening - underneath each tail... I am assuming.. there is a person. As I have stated above, this is NOT concrete evidence but it would be interesting if he had other people who helped.

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Old 2007-08-12, 17:47   Link #19
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It's the one with the black swirls...I try and see if I can find it again.

EDIT - it's in chapter 1 with yondaime at the bottom.

Here is the pic:

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I think...there is another one I have seen....gawd...a long time ago. Anyway, I am thinking (my theory) each tail is being controlled while the sealing process is happening - underneath each tail... I am assuming.. there is a person. As I have stated above, this is NOT concrete evidence but it would be interesting if he had other people who helped.
this hardly shows anything...like a cave painting or a scroll not actual scene and there are no other person other than yondaime but a good one...it may not show the actual process...
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It shows a person on a frog and a big fox.
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