The Raki discussion

[Korinov]

Found it somewhere... please don't ask

Spoiler for evil Raki:

Poor Renée

[Shiek927]

You're lucky if you don't, Weird D. Fortunately for you(or unfortunately), like Darth Vader, "the others are not so forgiving as I am.".

If it's a comical harem like stupid anime shows, might as well be everybody for laughs, throw in Dauf, Rubel and Rachel while you're at it, that'll be both funny and scary

But you said SERIOUS Harem. Serious in the sense that it could happen the manga? Well, it's obvious both Priscilla and Claire have a hold on em that isn't letting go, so it's technically already a harem, if it needs at least more then one other person.

If he ever joins the other Ghosts, and he probably(or definitely) will sooner or later, I'm sure they all will have at least some sort of interest: as College Fool said in his fic "Papa"- "For a race of warriors that prided themselves on their distinction from humans, these women could be entirely predictable the moment someone entered their lonely hearts.". I'm not sure even the most stoic Claymore, like Deneve, could not hold something for him, and why would they: Raki is a role model - good-natured, empathetic, now-experienced, indepedent etc. Even tough-as-nails warriors like Undine, if they were still alive, would probably throw a couple glances his way. Remember, these are warriors living on the razor's edge and hated by humans. Males aren't treated kindly in that world; Yagi has done everything possible to seperate the genders naturally as much as possible, and Males are usually antagonists in some sort of way. Raki, who doesn't care about any of that, who's able to do so much, you can understand how he'd probably be a dream come true, if they can get over their personal dislike of males, as most warriors probably have.

Once everybody's been acquainted and so and so, Cynthia, Yuma, and Tabitha(Yes, her, despite her interest in Miria) would probably shyly have feelings for him, as it wouldn't surprise me if was their very first crush, though they probably wouldn't act on them, particularly because of Claire. Helen...XDXD, I've always believed she was one of those "I like you, but I don't want you to know, so I'll make fun of you mercilessly" types. Yes, she was a complete bi-atch when they first met, but she'll probably start liking him sooner or later. She'll at least, even if it's not romantic, want some action from him(The thought will definitely cross all of them, even if it's not romantic, even if it risks Awakening because of their yoki, and even if they're too shy to try. I fully believe that ) Although Deneve's not as vocal as Helen, she'll probably feel something for him also, perhaps not sexual, but definitely something. She's just as passionate as Helen, though not as upfront about it.

Miria is a doozy: She's my second favorite pairing(RakixMiria) next to RakixClaire/RakixPriscilla. As she is the captain, she probably won't let any feelings occur that might jepordize anything - whether it be problems with Claire, or anyone else, her personal feelings, anything. Still, that girl needs to freaking smile more, so I'd at least hope she'll feel something for him.

Just like to me to answer a silly question with an essay

Korinov....I assure you, I will not ask .

[shogun01]

Originally Posted by Weird D

Okay, due to the large gathering of Raki fans, I'm going to ask a question that will probably get me crucified and kicked out of this site...

Spoiler for Are you sure you want to know?:

Spoiler for Just for the fun of it...:

If there was a SERIOUS Raki/Harem, who would you see in it?

** runs away **

This is a tough one. Is it going to be made by the same team/staff that made the anime?

If the answer is yes, then no I wouldn't see it. With our luck, Raki would end up with Undine at the end in that version.

[Shiek927]

Originally Posted by shogun01

This is a tough one. Is it going to be made by the same team/staff that made the anime?

If the answer is yes, then no I wouldn't see it. With our luck, Raki would end up with Undine at the end in that version.

Oh, he meant an anime? I was thinking and referring to the manga, and the possibility of a harem or at least more people taking a serious interest in Raki, I wasn't thinking about shows or anything light-hearted(which really is what these things usually are ).

[Weird D]

No, I meant the manga, or possibly a fanfic if you were to imagine one. Though I meant a straight one.
Heck you can even go for...

Spoiler for painful:

Riful - Ophelia - Priscilla - Agasa - Alicia - Beth
(aka the psycho harem)

But yeah Shiek, Raki is an unusual guy in the Claymore world, because he's the only one so far who's been nothing but friendly to everyone, including non-humans. So yes, even the coldest Claymore would warm up in time.
and personnally, Renee would be my second favourite. Never seen such a WTF face on a Claymore since Jean told Helen her rank.

[Shiek927]

Originally Posted by Weird D

No, I meant the manga, or possibly a fanfic if you were to imagine one. Though I meant a straight one.
Heck you can even go for...

Spoiler for painful:

Riful - Ophelia - Priscilla - Agasa - Alicia - Beth
(aka the psycho harem)

But yeah Shiek, Raki is an unusual guy in the Claymore world, because he's the only one so far who's been nothing but friendly to everyone, including non-humans. So yes, even the coldest Claymore would warm up in time.
and personnally, Renee would be my second favourite. Never seen such a WTF face on a Claymore since Jean told Helen her rank.

Roflmao, tell me about it. I never thought much of Renee; like the other "fillers"(except Clarice and Miata), she's stuckup and kind of full of herself. It was unbelievable how we see so many shocked expressions out of her in her debut chapter.

Well, Riful and Raki would be awesome together; I always imagined they he'd remind her of a childhood friend or older brother or someone she used to play with before she was taken. It must be nice for her to finally have someone around her age(physically anyway), instead of just being stuck with fat ugly stupid Dauf, which clearly isn't any fun. That's one relationship I wouldn't mind one bit: even if he can't tolerate her like Dauf can, I'm sure the other benefits would be worth it and she wouldn't try squeezing the life out of him just because she can. Shoot, if Riful still wants him around, Dauf would probably like him alot too, perhaps seeing him as a son. If it can happen to Isley, why not him?

Ophelia....now that's a keeper . Not sure how that relationship will work, but we know she's isn't all crazy, or at least wasn't at one point. If he's crazy enough to stick with her despite being torn to pieces(and she would), she may eventually grow fond of him. Perhaps, she'll start to see HIM as her older brother. Who knows.

Priscilla....not much to think about; they've been together for seven years and haven't had any problems so far.
If they haven't in seven years, I doubt they will ever, even if she does awaken.

Agatha.....ho boy. THIS ladies and gentlemen is one relationship I have no idea how it would, or even could work out. Agatha is one of the most blood-thirsty Awakened we've ever seen, and considering she's also No.2, Rigardo and her would probably make a perfect and better couple. I'm honestly stumped with this . Even if Raki could change her with time, I'd doubt he'd want to stay anywhere near her with the blood-fascination she's got. Honestly, I believe she's too much even for him. Even if she wants him around, I doubt he'll tolerate her enough that he'll want to try to get her to turn over a new leaf. I guess even he has his limits

The same with Alicia and Beth - it's possible, just possible, that his presence might awaken something inside them, mentally, that the Organization wasn't able to destroy. It would be gleefully ironic - the golden girls of the Organization; the robots they put so much effort to making as powerful and obedient as possible, becoming human and disobeying in the end. It could happen.

Raki's warmth is unlimited and free for all; anybody he spends with enough time will grow to love him, be it human or awakened. Awakened have the side-benefit(or curse, depending on how they look at it) of slowly regaining their humanity and losing their hunger. He may have gotten some rotten luck with the slave traders and yoma, but every single person since then eventually coveted him. The only disadvantage is that he is such a delicious smelling treat, that he's gotta be lucky enough to have something they like more(His scent, in Priscilla's case) that'll override it long enough for them to not care anymore and truly like him. That's the stage where the healing is really done. Really aside from Agatha(because of her endearing personality ), I can see Raki getting into a possible relationship with ANYBODY in all of Claymore(.....I'm talking about the females okay? ).

On a side-note, their are plenty of Harem fics with Raki. Scour the humongous fanfiction thread and fanfiction.net, you shouldn't find any trouble finding any. Most of them are hilarious if you need a good laugh.

[shogun01]

Originally Posted by Weird D

No, I meant the manga, or possibly a fanfic if you were to imagine one.

Oh! When I think of Harem titles, the anime version is the first thing that comes into mind.

[Shiek927]

Originally Posted by shogun01

Oh! When I think of Harem titles, the anime version is the first thing that comes into mind.

Anime harems are retarded, plain and simple

I've only seen a few, but the stupid humor and jokes are tasteless and all the same. It's like watching a bad Will Ferrell movie: when you've seen one, you've seen them all .

(though I still want to watch Land of the Lost)

[Weird D]

Originally Posted by Shiek927

Roflmao, tell me about it. I never thought much of Renee; like the other "fillers"(except Clarice and Miata), she's stuckup and kind of full of herself. It was unbelievable how we see so many shocked expressions out of her in her debut chapter.

On a side-note, their are plenty of Harem fics with Raki. Scour the humongous fanfiction thread and fanfiction.net, you shouldn't find any trouble finding any. Most of them are hilarious if you need a good laugh.

If she had acted like the stereotype Claymore, I'd consider Renee another fodder, but the sheer range of expressions she had granted her a special mention in my mind.

Actually, I gave that example for the hell of it : I simply imagined him with all the most bloodthirsty / insane girls. To be honest, I put Agasa at the last moment, and forgot Luciella in the process
But that's the point of fanfiction, anything is possible if the author is good enough. And yeah, I do haunt ff.net (pen name Dany le fou for stories and reviews), but Raki gets little notice, and most fics are abandonned after a handful of chapters.
'Harem' was absolutely promising, and it was dropped immediately. 'Scarred Memories' is the most recent one, and I had hopes for it, but it's been over 2 months already. 'Silver eyed warlock' is one of the best fics involving Raki IMO.

Originally Posted by shogun01

Oh! When I think of Harem titles, the anime version is the first thing that comes into mind.

The typical harem manga / anime has one (often oblivious) guy having to decide between several girls who are interested in him, and having a hard time to choose. I honestly don't think of Claymore as one (more like To Love-ru, Negima or Nagasarete Airantou, and yes, those are comedic manga, Claymore's dark themes do not fit at all)
Then there is the fanfic harem, where the guy can get all the girls...
Needless to say I prefer that one!

Still, my original point was,

Spoiler for and I'm going to be crucified again...:

if you were to imagine Raki with a believable harem (or a plain insane one), who would you see in it?

[Shiek927]

Originally Posted by Weird D

If she had acted like the stereotype Claymore, I'd consider Renee another fodder, but the sheer range of expressions she had granted her a special mention in my mind.

Actually, I gave that example for the hell of it : I simply imagined him with all the most bloodthirsty / insane girls. Actually, I put Agasa at the last moment, and forgot Luciella in the process
But that's the point of fanfiction, anything is possible if the author is good enough. And yeah, I do haunt ff.net (pen name Dany le fou for stories and reviews), but Raki gets little notice, and most fics are abandonned after a handful of chapters.
'Harem' was absolutely promising, and it was dropped immediately. 'Scarred Memories' is the most recent one, and I had hopes for it, but it's been over 2 months already. 'Silver eyed warlock' is one of the best fics involving Raki IMO.

Sheesh, I forgot Luciella too(Why does everyone always forget her?! ). Well, if it can happen with all those other girls, it probably could work with her too.

Ohhhh, so you're Dany Le Fou I think I reviewed your stories a few time: Shiek927 is my universal name I use across the internet, so if you see Shiek927, that's me. Nevertheless, even if none of those stories ever get finished, their still fun to read alot.

You should really continue your Unexpected series! they're completely hilarious, especially the second one

The typical harem manga / anime has one (often oblivious) guy having to decide between several girls who are interested in him, and having a hard time to choose. I honestly don't think of Claymore as one (more like To Love-ru, Negima or Nagasarete Airantou, and yes, those are comedic manga, Claymore's dark themes do not fit at all
Then there is the fanfic harem, where the guy can get all the girls...
Needless to say I prefer that one!

Which is why I hate them so much. The guys are always so babyish and retarded, it just makes me mad. I understand that's it supposed to be comedic, but that kind of comedy is just stupid and extremely slap-stick. Baby Man + 100 Models + a million tasteless sex\boob jokes = very stupid humor.

If it were a sensible situtation somehow, or if the jokes were actually good, then it may be funny. But for the most part, shows like that are just for dorks who want to see naked anime girls. Pitiful

Well, enough of my ranting

Spoiler for and I'm going to be crucified again...:

if you were to imagine Raki with a believable harem (or a plain insane one), who would you see in it?

In the manga, for real? That depends, but for the most part, no. I don't mind if more girls besides Claire and Priscilla liking him. Like I said, it's bound to happen with the Ghosts. if that means them having a simple crush on him(or Helen wanting some action ), then yes. If that means them all getting naked and wrestling with eachother for him in a swimming pool.......I'd rather that be left for fanfiction

[shogun01]

Originally Posted by Weird D

In the manga, for real? That depends, but for the most part, no. I don't mind if more girls besides Claire and Priscilla liking him. Like I said, it's bound to happen with the Ghosts. if that means them having a simple crush on him(or Helen wanting some action ), then yes. If that means them all getting naked and wrestling with eachother for him in a swimming pool.......I'd rather that be left for fanfiction

I'm pretty much in the same boat as Shiek on this one.

[Weird D]

Originally Posted by Shiek927

Which is why I hate them so much. The guys are always so babyish and retarded, it just makes me mad. I understand that's it supposed to be comedic, but that kind of comedy is just stupid and extremely slap-stick. Baby Man + 100 Models + a million tasteless sex\boob jokes = very stupid humor.

Then let's be honest, the anime version of Raki's out then. Caring, but too damn annoying. The adult manga-version... yeah, he'll have to run fast if any of the Claymore get to know him long enough... that or Clare will need to keep Priscilla as a watch dog

Helen : Hello handsome. Would you...
chibi Prissy : Are you hitting on Raki?
Helen :

If it were a sensible situtation somehow, or if the jokes were actually good, then it may be funny. But for the most part, shows like that are just for dorks who want to see naked anime girls. Pitiful

For your sake, I hope you NEVER watch Queen's Blade then.

In the manga, for real? That depends, but for the most part, no. I don't mind if more girls besides Claire and Priscilla liking him. Like I said, it's bound to happen with the Ghosts. if that means them having a simple crush on him(or Helen wanting some action ), then yes. If that means them all getting naked and wrestling with eachother for him in a swimming pool.......I'd rather that be left for fanfiction

I'm leaning more toward fanfiction, but even then, a large number would make it impossible to keep any serious emotional bonds. The whole 'girlfriend doesn't mind if her guy sleeps with other girls' is difficult to swallow as it is, even more so if said guy uses this excuse to jump all the other girls. The few really good harem fics I've seen have a max number of 6.

Originally Posted by MisterJB

Dude, next chapter of Unexpected Misunderstandings nao

Are you in such a hurry to see Raki getting it on with the Ghosts?
More seriously, I wasn't sure to make one. The reason I only did one-shots is because I am unable to plan far away, and would probably end up abandonning any multi-chapters fic I'd start. I can get a general idea, but fleshing it out is a problem for me.
I might, MIGHT make a third and final part, but I refuse to make any promise I won't keep. Please bear with me.

[Weird D]

Now I'd like an answer : in a fic, if Raki was to form a real bond with more than one Claymore (or AB), one that could lead to genuine and reciprocated feelings, who would you imagine?

So yeah, it has to go both ways.

[MisterJB]

Originally Posted by Weird D

Are you in such a hurry to see Raki getting it on with the Ghosts?
More seriously, I wasn't sure to make one. The reason I only did one-shots is because I am unable to plan far away, and would probably end up abandonning any multi-chapters fic I'd start. I can get a general idea, but fleshing it out is a problem for me.
I might, MIGHT make a third and final part, but I refuse to make any promise I won't keep. Please bear with me.

You fic are hilarious and very well written.

Someone Raki could bond with?

Deneve or Miria. They are both very stoic Claymores that have been hurt in the past just like Clare. Raki would be able to melt the ice that encages their hearts.

[Shiek927]

Helen : Hello handsome. Would you...
chibi Prissy : Are you hitting on Raki?
Helen :

But that's funny!

Now I'd like an answer : in a fic, if Raki was to form a real bond with more than one Claymore (or AB), one that could lead to genuine and reciprocated feelings, who would you imagine?

So yeah, it has to go both ways.

Any of them. That's why I'm looking forward to College Fool's new fic, can imagine all the possibilties.

Well, like I explained, any of them. It's really up to you who you pick, anything can work out with time.

Nevertheless, if I HAD to pick, I'd pick a character that doesn't get much attention overall with fanfiction: Raki/Miria's really nice like I said, Deneve, Rafaela, Undine, Jean, Yuma, Riful, Clarice...

Raki and Miria I just love to see together. Deneve needs more attention, Rafaela and Raki have so many similarities, Undine, Jean, and Yuma need more attention as well and would make for some good situations, Raki/Riful and Raki/Clarice are fun cute couples.

Any one of the girls just needs more attention.

It's up too you; anything can work with him....though I have to ask you a favor.....please let it be a female, okay? You said "anyone"...and that word scares me

[clarakiss~]

speaking of fanfics, i also seen alot of harem too. but for me, i try to keep mines to a minimum like raki and clare only. i like doing oneshots and i have some more coming.

[shelter]

Originally Posted by Weird D

Now I'd like an answer : in a fic, if Raki was to form a real bond with more than one Claymore (or AB), one that could lead to genuine and reciprocated feelings, who would you imagine?

It's not a hard & fast rule, but there are only 3 characters which Raki has been paired with in most fics I've seen: Clare, Priscilla & Miria. There aren't many pro-Raki fanfic writers out there willing to experiment with other pairings.

It's probably because, since the Slashers arc in the manga, Raki has not had any major presence in the story beyond some cameo appearances.

[Shiek927]

Originally Posted by shelter

It's not a hard & fast rule, but there are only 3 characters which Raki has been paired with in most fics I've seen: Clare, Priscilla & Miria. There aren't many pro-Raki fanfic writers out there willing to experiment with other pairings.

It's probably because, since the Slashers arc in the manga, Raki has not had any major presence in the story beyond some cameo appearances.

Can't deny that, though Raki/Miria is still a great pairing

Well, any of the girls I mentioned would be best, as they haven't gotten much love either: Deneve, Rafaela\Luciela, Undine, Jean, Yuma, Riful, Clarice deserve much more attention.

That's what I keep stressing Weird D, anybody can love Raki. As considering he's got a thing for powerful tragic women(which is....everybody XD), he'll feel the same way. Really, deep down, he's still the same kid as he always was; he's just tempered and experienced now, he's gotten the "big picture" and finding his place in the cold world he lives in. Isley probably taught him to better control his fears and emotions in battle, but his buttons are probably just as easy to push as before.

[Xcmreo]

Who's Raki...is it the rock 894 we saw on ep 23?

[Shiek927]

Originally Posted by Xcmreo

Who's Raki...is it the rock 894 we saw on ep 23?

...............you lost me completely