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Old 2007-08-19, 09:19   Link #1
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[Manga] The Shapeshifting Technique...

What if Pein used the technique and produced Kuzuzu and Hidan while they were "alive"? O.o Would they be... immortal clones? I think when the writer made this technique he didn't realize how many things you could actually leave out.
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Old 2007-08-19, 13:33   Link #2
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i dont think they have all their abilities... remember itachi was talking about his MS in the fight he said something along the lines of:
"dont worry i wont use the mangekyo sharingan now.. or more specifically, i cant"
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Old 2007-08-19, 13:36   Link #3
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they couldnt use the full potential of the original hosts.
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Old 2007-08-19, 14:47   Link #4
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Uh, the clones have to be controlled directly by the person. Itachi and Kisame were sitting on their rocks controlling their clones throughout the fights.
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Old 2007-08-20, 03:19   Link #5
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remember itachi was talking about his MS in the fight he said something along the lines of:
"dont worry i wont use the mangekyo sharingan now.. or more specifically, i cant"
I had figured he said that only because the clones were at 30% chakra capacity of the actual people, and that wasn't enough chakra to use Mangekyou....could be wrong though.
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Old 2007-08-20, 04:17   Link #6
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I have also thought thats why he couldnt use Mangekyou Sharingan as well
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Old 2007-08-20, 05:10   Link #7
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i dont think they can use Bloodline Limit skills to begin with.

And i also think that the ability is capped to 30% like kisame said lol

+ Hidan is special, if he doesnt die, that sacrifice will die eventually being stabbed head chopped off and else what
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Old 2007-08-20, 05:17   Link #8
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what makes u think he cant use 90% of his chakra in the host dun remember they saying that 30% is maximum.
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Old 2007-08-20, 09:05   Link #9
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The leader took 30% of their chakra...but if they give up 95% or 90% then they definetly have access to pretty much all of their techniques.

This would make Kakuzu & Hidan still immortal no matter the amount of chakra given. I dont think they used chakra to survive. They were immortal...but that's probably also the reason why they didnt need to do it...since they couldnt die.
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Old 2007-08-20, 10:25   Link #10
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What a burnout, making yourself burn all your chakra on 1 thing.
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Old 2007-08-20, 11:07   Link #11
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I'm pretty sure he couldn't use MS because he didn't possess the amount of chakra. Wait... I saw this in Shippudden but I don't remember what happened in the manga, didn't the Kakashi Kage Bunshin get caught in MS? I'm 100% sure that was Tsukyomi. But anyways, the shapeshifting technique did copy Bloodline limits, how else is Itachi able to use his Sharingan <<. It wasn't like he was faking it.

Also Kisame's sword was perfectly copied, it was still sentient and all. I'm sure this technique is just that powerful enough.

If Hidan and Kuzuzu were copied that would've been pretty ridiculous.

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The only jutsu he is seen using, the Shapeshifting Technique (象転の術, Shōten no Jutsu?), allows him to clone his subordinates using human sacrifices that they control and can use to engage enemies without risking their lives. The clones formed are perfect copies of the original, even possessing the kekkei genkai and unique weapons they may possess. Their abilities are proportionate to the amount of chakra given to the clone (in its debut, he requested thirty percent).
I'm not saying wiki is 100% accurate on every single thing but this seems like it.
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Old 2007-08-20, 13:35   Link #12
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I'm pretty sure he couldn't use MS because he didn't possess the amount of chakra. Wait... I saw this in Shippudden but I don't remember what happened in the manga, didn't the Kakashi Kage Bunshin get caught in MS? I'm 100% sure that was Tsukyomi. But anyways, the shapeshifting technique did copy Bloodline limits, how else is Itachi able to use his Sharingan <<. It wasn't like he was faking it.

Also Kisame's sword was perfectly copied, it was still sentient and all. I'm sure this technique is just that powerful enough.

If Hidan and Kuzuzu were copied that would've been pretty ridiculous.



I'm not saying wiki is 100% accurate on every single thing but this seems like it.
It was a (sharingan) genjutsu not MS genjutsu. It happened in the manga aswell. The genjutsu didnt work on kage bunshins. (Probably none of the genjutsu's work on kage bunshins)
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Old 2007-08-20, 14:25   Link #13
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It was a (sharingan) genjutsu not MS genjutsu. It happened in the manga aswell. The genjutsu didnt work on kage bunshins. (Probably none of the genjutsu's work on kage bunshins)
I think it did work on the kagebunshin, but it got no effect on the original.
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Old 2007-08-20, 15:29   Link #14
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they can use bloodline techs: like sharingan
kagebunshins can be trapped in genjutsu: like kakashi and naruto
we just dont know what would happen to hidan or kakuzu cuz the tech. wasnt introduced properly.

my idea:
hidan copy wont be immortal cuz it wasnt a tech for me.its something special to him.but if the copy uses the tech, when he stabs himself copy will die too along with the victim.
in kakuzu its very difficult cuz his body is made up differently...

but in the end they wont be immortal cuz if so leader could build up an immortal copy team and use them for all missions.
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