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View Poll Results: Nanoha - StrikerS - Episode 21 Rating
Perfect 10 11 25.00%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 18 40.91%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 10 22.73%
7 out of 10 : Good 4 9.09%
6 out of 10 : Average 1 2.27%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 0 0%
4 out of 10 : Poor 0 0%
3 out of 10 : Bad 0 0%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad 0 0%
1 out of 10 : Painful 0 0%
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Old 2007-08-22, 00:21   Link #281
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All these talk about Vivio made me wonder how StrikerS' story would have proceeded if they didn't add her...

In any case, I think Vivio's biggest contribution as of yet is letting us see Nanoha getting emo and breaking down for the first time.
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Old 2007-08-22, 00:35   Link #282
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I'm more of the faction that thinks of her as a mere device for NxF, causing NxF to consume all the available space to the detriment of overall show quality.
Comrades then, cause it's the only damn thing so far that I agree with you one hundred percent.

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But I understand there are indeed Vivio fans.
You see a NxF fan, they're more or less the same.

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All these talk about Vivio made me wonder how StrikerS' story would have proceeded if they didn't add her...
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In any case, I think Vivio's biggest contribution as of yet is letting us see Nanoha getting emo and breaking down for the first time.
Don't forget she also solidify Jail's reputation
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Old 2007-08-22, 00:37   Link #283
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Comrades then.
Count me in.

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Maybe. But I still want more development for Doctor Orange than just that.
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Old 2007-08-22, 00:50   Link #284
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Don't forget she also solidify Jail's reputation
Nonesense, the Doc doesn't need her for his cookies .
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Old 2007-08-22, 01:11   Link #285
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Nonesense, the Doc doesn't need her for his cookies .
He already has 12(13) girls, another loli is fine too...

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Count me in.
Quickly, before 'the others' wake up...


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FIRE AWAY!
The only bad point? we would never be sure of Erio's Loli-in-distress sensors

But hell, I would give that up just see Erio and Caro go through with their date !

A decrease in Nanoha development, like we don't know anything about her.

A decrease in moe, like we need anymore...

A hell-lot more developments for Erio, Caro, Lutecia and Vice, instead of being delegated to SS and Manga.

NxFs stay quiet longer... And eventually, more of them would drop dead because of a lack of fanservices.

A cut down of 'peaceful days'... More involvment from the other factions like Navy and Church... Wait, this would also be eatting into training time, hmmm, we got to cut those off as well...

Something along those line, I'll have more later...
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Old 2007-08-22, 01:22   Link #286
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Are you a Vivio fan?

Also, maybe yanking her out of the chair is the trigger for "400% Synchronization rate"

(I think that's the right term... If not, the 400% would still give it away...)
I think the EVA-Nano OP on Youtube begs to differ on who's gonna 400%...

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I'm more of the faction that thinks of her as a mere device for NxF, causing NxF to consume all the available space to the detriment of overall show quality.
That is true, but for me, it's a weird dilemma, for it helps me further a cause, but yet it will be helping the enemy...

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You see a NxF fan, they're more or less the same.
Sorry to differ, Sith Lord, but I am watching Vivio closely, for it validates much crack I've spawned in the OC thread...

In fact, the Seiou business, Vivio's gender and existence, one of Erio's skills, weapon specialization and relation to Fate, and the creation of the Numbers all tied in seemlessly with, in fact hinted in a roundabout sense that he existed in canon, an OC I created before StrikerS was released.

Sadly, the death of Vivio would cripple this OC's progression until I think of a better way forward. So I'm for "Vivio lives" even though it would be helping the Horde drown themselves further in delusion.

Does that make me a Vivio fan?
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Old 2007-08-22, 01:23   Link #287
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Can that be called screentime?

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Don't forget Zafira. It's thanks to Vivio that he got a little bit of screen time...
Zafira: I don't care, Producer! I want screentime.
Producer: OK. Here's your screentime. (hands over script)
Zafira (reads): Let's see ... be Vivio's pet ... not a single line of dialogue ... shoot down some drones ... basically get knocked out by lightsaber girl IN ONE HIT even though I'm supposed to be AA equivalent ... lightsaber girl that B-ranked Teana will ultimately defeat about six episodes later?! ... (returns script) May I back out now? Just make me a non-entity?
Producer: Too late...
Zafira: Arrrgh!
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Old 2007-08-22, 01:24   Link #288
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well I got to see the episode in clips though. I don't know if splitting up seems to be a very good tactic, but for now, it seems that episode 17 is repeating itself again.
Spoiler for some thoughts:


thats about it...9/10, 1 point off for somewhat sloppy animation...
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Old 2007-08-22, 01:30   Link #289
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He already has 12(13) girls, another loli is fine too...



Quickly, before 'the others' wake up...




The only bad point? we would never be sure of Erio's Loli-in-distress sensors

But hell, I would give that up just see Erio and Caro go through with their date !

A decrease in Nanoha development, like we don't know anything about her.

A decrease in moe, like we need anymore...

A hell-lot more developments for Erio, Caro, Lutecia and Vice, instead of being delegated to SS and Manga.

NxFs stay quiet longer... And eventually, more of them would drop dead because of a lack of fanservices.

A cut down of 'peaceful days'... More involvment from the other factions like Navy and Church... Wait, this would also be eatting into training time, hmmm, we got to cut those off as well...

Something along those line, I'll have more later...
Interesting points.

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Zafira: I don't care, Producer! I want screentime.
Producer: OK. Here's your screentime. (hands over script)
Zafira (reads): Let's see ... be Vivio's pet ... not a single line of dialogue ... shoot down some drones ... basically get knocked out by lightsaber girl IN ONE HIT even though I'm supposed to be AA equivalent ... lightsaber girl that B-ranked Teana will ultimately defeat about six episodes later?! ... (returns script) May I back out now? Just make me a non-entity?
Producer: Too late...
Zafira: Arrrgh!
Now, now... He DID get three lines...

Zafira: (charging Otto) TEEEOOOAAAHHH!!!
Zafira: (pwned by Deed) GEEYYAAHHK!
Zafira: (about to be blasted with Shamal) Guah... Ghggh...Ghak...

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Old 2007-08-22, 01:32   Link #290
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In fact, the Seiou business, one of Erio's skills, weapon specialization and relation to Fate, and the creation of the Numbers all tied in seemlessly with, in fact hinted in a roundabout sense that he existed in canon, an OC I created before StrikerS was released.

Sadly, the death of Vivio would cripple this OC's progression until I think of a better way forward. So I'm for "Vivio lives" even though it would be helping the Horde drown themselves further in delusion.

Does that make me a Vivio fan?
It makes you a business man

It just means you're making use of her, for example if there's a way for your story to continue without her, would you be in that dilemma ?

Stick with us, and we'll pin a good portion of the mess StrikerS has created on them...


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Old 2007-08-22, 01:34   Link #291
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What were Zest and Signum talking about before their battle started?
Basically, Signum introduces herself, while adding the fact that she's her kouhai, as in... a younger member of the workforce, underclassman in a way so to speak, indirectly telling him she knows who he is. She ask what's his objective, Zest says he just wants to meet an old friend, Regius. Signum then asked if it's for revenge. Zest didn't answer, but says talk is cheap and then they fought.
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Old 2007-08-22, 01:46   Link #292
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Basically, Signum introduces herself, while adding the fact that she's her kouhai, as in... a younger member of the workforce, underclassman in a way so to speak, indirectly telling him she knows who he is. She ask what's his objective, Zest says he just wants to meet an old friend, Regius. Signum then asked if it's for revenge. Zest didn't answer, but says talk is cheap and then they fought.
oh ok thanks for the translation.
Now about those drones that are attacking Vita...are they part of the Cradle's defenses or do they belong to Scaglietti?
Looks like Fate is also going all out with Zamber form just like in the opening and Scachs also there to provide backup, but where did Acous run off to?
So which Numbers will be going up against Scach and Fate? I lost track of which Number is in each faction.
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Old 2007-08-22, 02:20   Link #293
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The only bad point? we would never be sure of Erio's Loli-in-distress sensors

But hell, I would give that up just see Erio and Caro go through with their date !

A decrease in Nanoha development, like we don't know anything about her.

A decrease in moe, like we need anymore...

A hell-lot more developments for Erio, Caro, Lutecia and Vice, instead of being delegated to SS and Manga.

NxFs stay quiet longer... And eventually, more of them would drop dead because of a lack of fanservices.

A cut down of 'peaceful days'... More involvment from the other factions like Navy and Church... Wait, this would also be eatting into training time, hmmm, we got to cut those off as well...

Something along those line, I'll have more later...
that would so totally make this season better.
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Old 2007-08-22, 02:33   Link #294
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I get this strange feeling that by the end of StrikerS, one of the following might happen...
  • Nanoha dies
  • Vita dies
  • Hayate dies
Then again, it might not happen either....

Also...
Spoiler for Pinch:

Well...something like this, might happen too
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Old 2007-08-22, 02:38   Link #295
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@Chaos: *hears gunshots and sword slashes*

*sees lots of blood*

Hell yeah!

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I get this strange feeling that by the end of StrikerS, one of the following might happen...
  • Nanoha dies
  • Vita dies
  • Hayate dies
Then again, it might not happen either....

Also...
Spoiler for Pinch:

Well...something like this, might happen too
I see Teana with angel wings and two giant and long Cross Mirages.

Teana: This is--!

Z. E. R. O.

[System initializing...]

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Old 2007-08-22, 02:51   Link #296
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Zafira: (charging Otto) TEEEOOOAAAHHH!!!
Zafira: (pwned by Deed) GEEYYAAHHK!
Zafira: (about to be blasted with Shamal) Guah... Ghggh...Ghak...

Worst part is that Arf who just appeared this episode has more lines than Zafira for the past 20 episode combined

The only spoken lines ever came out from him are from ep07 (like 3 lines only excluding another Teeeooaaahhh)
Arf's lines this episode alone is 5 times longer
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Old 2007-08-22, 03:00   Link #297
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This episode Yuno and Arf have show their face abit, although awhile only....
The War has started, Hayate not enough energy/mana, Vita heavy injure now(hope after war she will be alright, but.....). Then Teana now need to 1 vs 3 + leg injure, dont think she can win, don't know have people come and save her or she can do it herself ... all have a hard fight from now on.

Really really scare Nanoha they all one of them will dies , i wish to have a happy ending.

now getting and getting interest, looking forward to next episode..
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Old 2007-08-22, 03:02   Link #298
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I get this strange feeling that by the end of StrikerS, one of the following might happen...
  • Nanoha dies
  • Vita dies
  • Hayate dies
Then again, it might not happen either....
Hmm no love for Fate?

With the hint that Pray will be played during a shocking scene, and sung by Fate's VA, does no one think Fate has her death flag reasonably high?
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Old 2007-08-22, 03:08   Link #299
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*sees lots of blood*

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Worst part is that Arf who just appeared this episode has more lines than Zafira for the past 20 episode combined

The only spoken lines ever came out from him are from ep07 (like 3 lines only excluding another Teeeooaaahhh)
Arf's lines this episode alone is 5 times longer
And human form... Don't forget that...

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Hmm no love for Fate?
Hmm... Fate dying eh...?

Could prove...

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With the hint that Pray will be played during a shocking scene, and sung by Fate's VA, does no one think Fate has her death flag reasonably high?
I did, but Nightengale (And others) shot me down with his SAMs... The others only had cheap AA guns...

*whistling*
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Hmm no love for Fate?

With the hint that Pray will be played during a shocking scene, and sung by Fate's VA, does no one think Fate has her death flag reasonably high?
Well, imo, Fate's almost guaranteed to win against III and VII, but what comes after... is a different story. Besides, Nana Mizuki singing the insert is like... a rule or something for Nanoha-verse.

Still, unlike Vita's who's death flag is relatively high, Nanoha's who's closing in on her death-flag or emo trigger, and Hayate who's apparently 'putting my life on the line for the sake of etcetcetc", Fate doesn't seem to be that 'connected' to Jail to trigger anything substantial other than "I hate you."

Who knows? There's still a few more episodes if they want to give Jail more depth as a character and his purpose.

For all we know, underneath Jail's floor is a special Relic and floating body... Precia's. :3

Because at this current pace, I can't see much Jail can say that will not make Fate give him a STFU, unless he says that he's her biological father, or that Precia's really alive at Al-Hazred or any sort of non-self science praising bullshit.
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