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View Poll Results: Nanoha - StrikerS - Episode 23 Rating
Perfect 10 18 34.62%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 17 32.69%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 12 23.08%
7 out of 10 : Good 4 7.69%
6 out of 10 : Average 1 1.92%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 0 0%
4 out of 10 : Poor 0 0%
3 out of 10 : Bad 0 0%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad 0 0%
1 out of 10 : Painful 0 0%
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Old 2007-09-02, 21:40   Link #101
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What if Nanoha really is......

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Old 2007-09-02, 21:45   Link #102
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What if Nanoha really is......

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its simple she the white devil of hell if she isnt that then
she's probably the pink panther
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Old 2007-09-02, 21:51   Link #103
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What if Nanoha really is......

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Wouldn't surprise me.

One of my early season off-hand possible predictions was that, Nanoha's injuries 8 years ago... was something she could not had ever recovered from ever, and that she would really die in time. However, she was saved and made possible to return to her former self with little lingering effects via the Artificial Mage technology.

This was back when I thought they would portray the lines of unethical technology of cyborgs, Project F, Artificial Mage and all that in a more gray perspective...but alas, it looks like they'll stay black.
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Old 2007-09-02, 21:59   Link #104
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Adding one more thought of this episode:

Vivio needs to stop crying mama... really... Even after her growth spurt...
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Old 2007-09-02, 22:20   Link #105
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Vivio needs to stop crying mama... really... Even after her growth spurt...
I dunno. I mean, she's barely shown us any other side to her personality. It would just be weird if she stopped doing it now.
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Old 2007-09-02, 22:34   Link #106
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I dunno. I mean, she's barely shown us any other side to her personality. It would just be weird if she stopped doing it now.
Yeah but... It's been 2 whole hours ! (Probably even more)
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Old 2007-09-02, 22:48   Link #107
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I guess I'll leave it at that. I basically agree, after all.

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The thing is, if he did that, the bad guys would win. That's not allowed...
The good guys already have a hard time. If the bad guys get stronger, the good guys would lose.
For Cinque, I really don't know why she hasn't made another appearance in the show. Jail's a genius. It shouldn't take that long. Of course, it would be harder to finish up this show with "good guys win" if Cinque made another appearance, considering how her daggers and IS are powerful enough to greatly damage Subaru's body.
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Old 2007-09-02, 23:19   Link #108
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The thing is, if he did that, the bad guys would win. That's not allowed...
The good guys already have a hard time. If the bad guys get stronger, the good guys would lose.
Yeah, that's about the most annoying thing about the show. The gap between the Aces and Forwards is too great, meaning any enemy capable of going toe-to-toe with N/F/H would cream our rookies... so the Aces keep getting nerfed or held back so we can have weaker enemies without it being a total walkover. Trouble is, the end result is that the good guys wind up looking like incompetent morons who can't figure out how to effectively employ their strongest team members.

I guess that's why I like Teana. She's not very powerful (and pays the price when she tries to brute-force it like the Big Three or even Subaru can), so she has to finesse her way through situations. Her Silhouette skill is just insanely useful, especially in a group battle where she doesn't have to pay as much attention to self-protection.

(Incidentally, I think we're really seeing the disadvantages inherent in the Numbers' overspecialisation. Nanoha could pull off that backshot trick nicely at age 9, and it never bought her much more than a temporary distraction against Fate or Vita, whereas Teana got a double KO. It'll be an even worse indictment if Nove now surrenders just because Teana has the drop on her.)
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Old 2007-09-02, 23:52   Link #109
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Well… I'm still enjoying this show, believe it or not.

I enjoy looking at the technical aspects of the fights, I like looking at the characters combat and battle style. I also like the characters themselves, particularly as how the Numbers have been developed.

What I don't like, is that it's episode 23 and I still don't know what Erio and Caro are capable of in battle.
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Old 2007-09-03, 00:18   Link #110
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okay guys we have more or less relised that strikers writing is bad,admit it,rant and move on already.
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Old 2007-09-03, 00:26   Link #111
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After seeing Ginga's drill(from the last episode + this episode), I think her chances of returning are low. Her left arm/hand must be completely robotic now, if she can spin her hand like that without the glove.
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Old 2007-09-03, 00:29   Link #112
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It'll be an even worse indictment if Nove now surrenders just because Teana has the drop on her.)
I can't see Nove surrendering with her personality. But then again... the writing

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okay guys we have more or less relised that strikers writing is bad,admit it,rant and move on already.
We admit it, are ranting, but some of us haven't moved on. It's hard too, when we watched an episode just today (recently), and there are signs of it.
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Old 2007-09-03, 00:39   Link #113
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After seeing Ginga's drill(from the last episode + this episode), I think her chances of returning are low. Her left arm/hand must be completely robotic now, if she can spin her hand like that without the glove.
I can't see it mattering that much. Both the sisters' core structure is robotic anyway, as we've seen with Subaru, and the outer coatings can certainly be regenerated - Subaru recovered very quickly from having a large chunk of her arm go missing, and the level of cloning technology present in the Nanohaverse seems to be pretty high anyway.

The only way I can see Ginga not coming back is if Subaru was forced to use her IS to kill her sister in combat. That last Divine Buster seems to have negated the possibility, and I really doubt Ginga will recover quickly enough to be KIA in the finale - the only Forwards who would be useful in such a high-powered event anyway would probably be Caro (with Voltaire) and maybe Subaru (for her barrier-breaking IS).

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I can't see Nove surrendering with her personality. But then again... the writing
I know what you mean. On the other hand, though, attacking Teana now carries a definite risk (assuming Teana doesn't just blast Nove away immediately) that her unconscious sisters will end up as collateral damage in the melee, and I can't see Nove abandoning them to escape either.

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Old 2007-09-03, 00:59   Link #114
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I can't see it mattering that much. Both the sisters' core structure is robotic anyway, as we've seen with Subaru, and the outer coatings can certainly be regenerated - Subaru recovered very quickly from having a large chunk of her arm go missing, and the level of cloning technology present in the Nanohaverse seems to be pretty high anyway.
Then how come Subaru can' t do that move?
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Old 2007-09-03, 01:06   Link #115
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Then how come Subaru can' t do that move?
Firstly, I don't know if Ginga could always do that, or whether she's had some kind of "upgrade" while in enemy hands. It could well be that she's always had that ability and Subaru didn't - they don't have exactly the same skills or magics, after all (and Subaru probably wouldn't need a drill in normal combat, considering the power of her IS). Yes, spinning one's hand is rather incompatible with having unbroken skin on one's wrist, but the self-repair systems would take care of that after the battle.

However, even if she has had a total hand replacement, I don't think it's an unrecoverable situation. Her core structure was always robotic anyway, and with the Nakajima sisters' regenerative abilities I doubt regrowing the organic coating on Ginga's hand would be a major problem even if it had been removed.
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Old 2007-09-03, 01:57   Link #116
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About Nanoha's limiter in this episode,
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Old 2007-09-03, 02:12   Link #117
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About Nanoha's limiter in this episode,
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Old 2007-09-03, 04:35   Link #118
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[...]Sure, that causes that most series on my list don't score lower than 7. [...] I liked Nanoha third season enough to give it a 7 [...]
So basically, you give to StrikerS the worst score you can give to a series?
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Old 2007-09-03, 05:23   Link #119
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So basically, you give to StrikerS the worst score you can give to a series?
The worst of his 'best'
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Old 2007-09-03, 08:59   Link #120
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It's like hinting unspoken promises and wasting time on 'hints' but never developing those beyond just 'hints.'
Which the people responsible for the show seems to favour regarding a certain issue in the show, although that was never a promise in the first place.


I agree with Meophist as well, this late in the show and we still got no certain idea what the Lightning Forwards are truly capable of, and in the premise of the showdown in ep 25, Lightning's encounter with Lutecia seems doomed to suffer the same fate as their character development. Hell, it might be even shorter since Fate is still trapped in the Doctor's lab and that might be also shortened to set up the duel between Nanoha and Vivio.


Anyone want to bet on another flashback in the next episode? Since that has been the trend among the last few episodes.
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