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Old 2007-11-04, 13:40   Link #161
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Still working on the torrent and the voting details, etc. What can I say, I'm a busy person(?). Hopefully I'll have it ready by tonight or tomorrow, the latest. At least I have an extra hour to devote or something? Heh.
Great... now I have songs playing non-stop in my head. Oh, yea. If you are curious as what the previous competitions sounded like, the torrents are available at http://tracker.animesuki.info
And now, back to work for me.

PS: Thanks to GipFace and Fome, I now have that song stuck in my head and can't get rid of it! Whyyyy!! I'm gonna be extremely harsh on the judging for that one. Mwhahahahahaha!
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Old 2007-11-04, 23:23   Link #162
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Eee, I'm so sorry I couldn't make it to that chat! I kept reminding myself but when it came down to the night it just totally slipped my mind D:

I'm sure everyone sounded really great, and I'm glad you guys liked mine and Gip's piece >3<

Good luck to everyone in voting!
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Old 2007-11-05, 17:32   Link #163
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ahh what? I missed out on it again. T___T oh well, I'm busy anyway.. hahah. (the last time I checked this forum this thread wasn't up yet... ><;;; My friend and I were going to enter but.. oh well. XD)

Can't wait to hear everyone. =) I sometimes listen to your entries while I ... do assignments. XD
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Old 2007-11-05, 17:58   Link #164
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How else would i know about pepernoten and speculaas

Not much useful to add, i can only repeat what i said earlier about how great it was. I'm glad i noticed this thread in time. It's a bit of a pity that there was only 25 people or so listening. This event really deserved a lot more attention than it got for the hard work people put in to this.
I agree, it shouldn't go to waste like that. Actually this event is quite interesting, I'm sure most people would like to listen to your voices if this was spread out Why don't we all make a "campaign" in the next time?
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Old 2007-11-05, 20:15   Link #165
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there was a "campaign" of sorts, once.... and there ended up being almost 100 people who participated and the broadcast was 7.5 hours.... ^^;;
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Old 2007-11-05, 20:53   Link #166
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That 7.5 long broadcast was tiring. The in-channel comments died down as the broadcast dragged on, not to mention more work for everyone to vote and the judges to judge. Unless Caldron's intention is to have more people listen, not sing.
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Old 2007-11-05, 21:31   Link #167
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Sorry - small holdup with the file (I do have the file in my computer if anyone wants to hack into my computer to get it or something :P). So until I get it straightened out, here are the non-competing entries.

Megaupload: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=KPEFPB2E

Badongo: http://www.badongo.com/file/5023754

Rapidshare:http://rapidshare.com/files/67741596...CIII_.zip.html
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Old 2007-11-05, 21:49   Link #168
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Yay~! *listens to Shiemi and Shinndou's non-comp entries again*
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Old 2007-11-05, 22:03   Link #169
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Well personally I'd rather the competition get more publicized, but find some other way to deal with a large number of contestants. Like grouping them into stages and having people vote amongst those, and then only the contestants who make it to the final round get aired on a shoutcast, so you have a relatively short broadcast but many listeners. Oh wait, but that requires you to sing different songs for 2 stages, not good... well, alternatively you can only air the best as picked by the judges and then have further voting among those? (And the rest can be distributed by torent?)

Having more listeners eventually will mean that more people will also feel like participating.

I have to say I was totally bowled over at how well everyone can pronounce Japanese though. I would have honestly thought none of the serious singers were not Japanese...
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Old 2007-11-05, 23:05   Link #170
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find some other way to deal with a large number... Like grouping them into stages... only the contestants who make it to the final round get aired on a shoutcast

I don't like this idea at all. The great part about this contest is that every entry is accepted and played. I mean, how else are we going to get our super-manly testosterone fix? It's a casual event and not giving everyone a piece of the limelight would ruin it.

Having said that, I have two ideas...
1. Split the contest over two days - The weekend is two days long, so why not?
2. Three-minute entry cap - This was imposed in the first round of AnimeNorth's J-Star and it worked out quite well. It would mean that in the worst case, 150 entries would have to be played for the event to last 7.5 hours, and that's if everything was exactly 3:00.

kcl822, if you don't have time to host the Winter solo competition, I'm sure you could find someone who would be eagerly willing to fill in. Heck, I'll do it as a last resort... as long as it's not too much trouble. The Winter one always gets the most entries, so it would be a real shame if it were canceled.

Oh, and thanks for putting up the non-comp entries!
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Old 2007-11-06, 00:24   Link #171
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Darn, I missed KaraComp this time around... I wouldn't have been able to sing (Sore throat), but I would have loved listening to the stream. Guess I'll just have to satisfy my karaoke hunger with the non-competitive entries...
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Old 2007-11-06, 05:24   Link #172
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That 7.5 long broadcast was tiring. The in-channel comments died down as the broadcast dragged on, not to mention more work for everyone to vote and the judges to judge. Unless Caldron's intention is to have more people listen, not sing.
I think the duration of the competition was fine. But only 25 people or so on the stream listening was saddening.

And even if more people want to participate than doing the broadcast over multiple days sound as a good option. Though for the extra work for the judges and people who host it... i have no idea how to solve that... Perhaps more people who do the stream. But in the end there will be a need of more time and manpower to get it going.

As for a simple way to get more listeners. I think a simple forum announcement after the closing of the submitions would of helped a lot to make people aware of it.
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Old 2007-11-06, 09:54   Link #173
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That 7.5 long broadcast was tiring. The in-channel comments died down as the broadcast dragged on, not to mention more work for everyone to vote and the judges to judge. Unless Caldron's intention is to have more people listen, not sing.
Yes, I want more people to listen, because it deserves such meaning. I've heard so many "oh darn, I've missed it". And 100 people is far much better than 20 right? Also, a broadcast isn't actually what I was having in mind, but rather spreading it out through the internet, or even AS, since there's actually not many people who actually read this sticky...
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Old 2007-11-06, 12:12   Link #174
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Of course I thought about those things before. And like GipFace said, the beauty of this is that anyone can have their time in the spotlight (great, now you made me remember that cute song with the guys singing, which was good in terms of singing, btw). In fact, I had people asking me to either announce it everywhere and cut back on the entries that gets broadcasted (meaning to do it in elimination stages) for years, but hey, I'm stubborn.
If this gets bigger, there are other logistics to consider, like which ones are getting broadcasted, where to get the server (and remember, bandwidth is not free), voting, and prizes (international shipping is not cheap, if you were wondering). Of course, there are also time constraints. First of all, time zones of the people listening has to be taken into consideration. Also, how long will the contest run, how long for voting, etc. This is one of the reasons we can run this competition semi-frequently. If that was not the case, it would be have to be run every other year or so!
And of course, the schedule of the people running this needs to be considered as well. But any new ideas are welcome - like they say, 2 heads are better than 1!

Btw, the listeners were around 32.

PS: I'm working on uploading the file somewhere, so hopefully it'll be out by the end of the day today.
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Old 2007-11-06, 12:39   Link #175
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I got back to my homeland last night. I missed everything! Glad I was now able to listen to the non competing entries. (Thanks for putting them for download so fast, kcl!) They were so nice! Well, except the ones featuring me, perhaps.
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Old 2007-11-06, 14:05   Link #176
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Of course I thought about those things before. And like GipFace said, the beauty of this is that anyone can have their time in the spotlight (great, now you made me remember that cute song with the guys singing, which was good in terms of singing, btw). In fact, I had people asking me to either announce it everywhere and cut back on the entries that gets broadcasted (meaning to do it in elimination stages) for years, but hey, I'm stubborn.
If this gets bigger, there are other logistics to consider, like which ones are getting broadcasted, where to get the server (and remember, bandwidth is not free), voting, and prizes (international shipping is not cheap, if you were wondering). Of course, there are also time constraints. First of all, time zones of the people listening has to be taken into consideration. Also, how long will the contest run, how long for voting, etc. This is one of the reasons we can run this competition semi-frequently. If that was not the case, it would be have to be run every other year or so!
And of course, the schedule of the people running this needs to be considered as well. But any new ideas are welcome - like they say, 2 heads are better than 1!

Btw, the listeners were around 32.

PS: I'm working on uploading the file somewhere, so hopefully it'll be out by the end of the day today.
My suggestions would be:
- About timezones, you can always broadcast it twice (at the time and, 12hours later, someone else could broadcast)
- If we all do something, this contest will actually be spreaded out. Even if it's only 100 people hearing it, it will grow a lot faster. Because those 100 are likely to hear next time and tell more people.
- It would be good if each contest had the next contest date already set, so people wouldn't forget so easily.
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Old 2007-11-06, 17:42   Link #177
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RE: Expanding the participation...

A few things:

* Personally, I enjoy having only a single, scheduled air time, since this is much more likely to draw a larger crowd than diluting the audience across multiple broadcasts. Also, I pity the unlucky time zone that does not get the benefit of our current MC.

* I don't think that drawing a larger audience is an activity that can be separated from increasing participation, since it seems that the vast majority of the audience is made up of participants (or past participants). Just like people are unlikely to wander into karaoke bars for the sole purpose of listening to other people karaoke, I'd think that most people wander into the contest because they want to participate. Of course, increasing participation has all of the drawbacks that have been mentioned previously.

* We might consider posting a link to the broadcast/transcript torrent on a more visible area (i.e., front page) with a blurb about listening and voting, so those that don't care to (or can't) make the live broadcast could still listen and vote if they were interested. This wouldn't increase the strain on the organizers much, I think.

* Even without changing the mechanics of the competition/broadcast itself, we could make it easier for kcl to run these contests more frequently if we provided her with some tools to make running the event easier. Seems there's always a bit of delay in setting up for the broadcast, for voting afterwards, and for sharing the non-compete and competing entries. Schadow has posted asking if anyone was interested in helping out in the past (I think, unless I just imagined it). I'm sure providing some help in that regard would help with ensuring regular/more frequent contests, if that's what we wanted to see.
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Old 2007-11-07, 00:05   Link #178
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After all that wait (wait, it's only been like 3 days or so), here's the whole broadcast. Still working in torrenting it, so until then, here are the places where you can download it from.

Megaupload: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=M6Z7KFO4

Rapidshare: http://rapidshare.com/files/67968343...n_III.zip.html

Badongo: http://www.badongo.com/file/5037605

Sendspace: http://www.sendspace.com/file/4qntsd



There will be 2 set of winners this time -- the popular vote and the judge's vote (I need to come up with a cooler name one of these days). This time, the judge's panel are 4 people including myself. Should be interesting.


Instructions on voting

-Give each entry a numeric score between 1 (worst) to 10 (best). Decimal points are welcomed but don't go crazy with a number like 4.66666666666666666.
-Email the scores to kcl822@gmail.com. Subject line should have the word "karaoke" so I don't delete it by accident.
-If you are one of the participants, you cannot vote for your own entries for obvious reasons.
-Add your nickname to the email so I know who you are. If you are one of those who have a lot of nicknames, please add them all. Don't make me cross-reference them.
-If you want to add comments, please do so. I will gather them all at the end of the week and post them. They will be anonymous so you don't have to worry about retribution.
-The deadline for voting is November 13th at 11:59p.m. EST. The scores will be posted the following day.

Reminder: mine does not count.
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Old 2007-11-07, 00:59   Link #179
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but don't go crazy with a number like 4.66666666666666666.
0.999... = 1

Email the scores
Something wrong with the site again? :/
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Old 2007-11-07, 12:45   Link #180
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For people who may have problems downloading from the links kcl posted, I've mirrored both the competing and non-competing entries.

Competing entries can be found here, and non-competing entries here.

Enjoy!!! And happy voting!
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