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Old 2004-01-19, 01:05   Link #21
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x Anime with ALOT of Ecchi
o Anime with ALOT of ero
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Old 2004-01-19, 02:28   Link #22
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x Anime with ALOT of Ecchi
o Anime with ALOT of ero
Wait.. How can ero = ecchi AND ero = hentai? I don't think it can.

IMO, ero is just a ploy by companies to make anime porn sound less "bad". and also to make hentai fans feel like they are more accepted.

Reminds me of the whole "toilet room"/"washroom" debate (or other names one calls the toilet).
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Old 2004-01-19, 03:40   Link #23
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Mahoromatic is pretty ecchi
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Old 2004-01-19, 03:45   Link #24
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Wait.. How can ero = ecchi AND ero = hentai? I don't think it can.

IMO, ero is just a ploy by companies to make anime porn sound less "bad". and also to make hentai fans feel like they are more accepted.

Reminds me of the whole "toilet room"/"washroom" debate (or other names one calls the toilet).
close! the most widely accepted theory for us is this:

(Ctrl+V from D.C. post)

Welcome to Japanese word history 101.

The actual original dictionary definition for "hentai" is "someone who acts strangely." Technically, by the old terminology, oh let's say...someone who wore hats on their feet and shoes on their head would be coined as "being a hentai."

Flash foward to the 1960s. The world was going through a counterculture revolution - anti-war, sexual openness, etc. Japan was no exception. Sex, started becoming more open, as the young postwar generation began to rebel against the older prewar generation. By means of media and slang term, someone started using "ecchi" as a replacement for sex. The actual Japanese word for "sexual intercourse" is "seikoui." But then again, who the heck is going to use "Let's have sexual intercourse" when a shorter, blunter version "Let's fuck" is available? Same thing in Japan, rather than saying "Anata to seikoui shitai" (I want to have sexual intercourse with you), a shorter, blunter saying "Ecchi shiyouze" (Let's fuck) is available. By now, I take it that most people here knows that the word "ecchi" stems from Japanese pronounciation for the English letter "H" - the first letter in the romanized word for "hentai."

Due to this use of "ecchi/hentai" as a replacement for "sex" in the 1960s, the word stuck into the Japanese that "ecchi" (or in Japanese usage, we just write the English alphabet "H" for sex) meant sex (or at least sexual content).

By 1980s and early 1990s, we started seeing porno anime and porno games in Japan. In Japan, these were referred to simply as "H-anime" (ecchi-anime) and "H-games" (ecchi-games). For some reason, in the overseas, you guys understood that "ecchi" (H) meant the first letter for the word "hentai," so you began to refer to these animes and games as "hentai anime" and "hentai games." (While in Japan, we never used those...we just used the letter "H" only). And as these games became more and more hardcore with rape, bondage, and tentacles, you guys began to refer to these pictures as being "hentai," whereas in Japan, we just referred to them as being "H-scenes" (ecchi-scenes).

But somewhere around the mid 1990s, (some say it began with Leaf's "Shizuku" and "Kizuato," others point a little later to "To Heart") these games gradually began to distance itself from hardcore pornography to story-centric love-simulation games (many point to the immense success of Konami's "Tokimeki Memorial" that started this whole love-sim phenomena). When one company made a huge success in story-based games, many other companies followed.

Suddenly, these games weren't just about sex anymore. They actually began to put real effort into actually great stories. And as more and more of these games began to hit the shelves, more and more of us began to ponder: these aren't just "ecchi games" (sex-only games), these are rather "games with actually great stories that just happen to have sex scenes in them."

Hence, a new terminology began to appear (by word of mouth, by mass media, etc.) and gradually the terminology "H-anime/H-games" (ecchi-anime/ecchi-games) began to disappear in replacement of "ero-anime/ero-games." For some reason, at least in Japanese minds, the English word "erotic" is less objective than the blunt word "sex." So, rather than the blunt "just sex games" (sex = "ecchi") we began to use the more toned down version of "games with erotic scenes in them (erotic = shortened to "ero" in Japanese)."

By the late 1990s, the word "hentai/ecchi" was dead. It still is used for the action verb "let's fuck" (ecchi shiyouze) in everyday language, but the usage of the word "hentai/ecchi" as an adjective had disappeared. It has been replaced by the term "ero."

So, from now on, the word "hentai anime," "hentai games," "hentai pictures," and "hentai scenes" are all words that no one in Japan uses anymore. Start using the word "ero-anime," "ero-games," "ero-pictures," and "ero-scenes (actually the actual word in Japanese for "ero-pictures" is "ero-gazou," but that's going too extreme).
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Old 2004-01-19, 21:34   Link #25
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Mahoromatic is pretty ecchi
pretty? Man that entire anime is ecchi.

As perverted as it is, It is really good too.
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Old 2004-01-19, 22:11   Link #26
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Futari Ecchi
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Old 2004-01-19, 22:47   Link #27
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pretty? Man that entire anime is ecchi.

As perverted as it is, It is really good too.
S1 was good hated S2 especially the ending. By the way Mahoro is so cute
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Old 2004-01-20, 02:01   Link #28
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S1 was good hated S2 especially the ending. By the way Mahoro is so cute
I finished watching S2 yesterday, can't believe the amount of sadness they put in it, especially since you wouldn't expect it from such an ecchi anime.
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Old 2004-01-20, 02:13   Link #29
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I finished watching S2 yesterday, can't believe the amount of sadness they put in it, especially since you wouldn't expect it from such an ecchi anime.
I know what you mean S1 was so cheerful and fun. S2 was like ugh a whole different anime. I despise the last episode so much it just didn't feel right. They should of ended the series with
Spoiler:


Damn I'm going off topic now I better stop
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Old 2004-01-20, 18:12   Link #30
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Mouse... but it's licensed... and also... Ikkitousen..... which is also licensed.... but as for non licensed ones..... check out Eiken... it's funny as hell...
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Old 2004-01-20, 21:56   Link #31
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I know what you mean S1 was so cheerful and fun. S2 was like ugh a whole different anime. I despise the last episode so much it just didn't feel right. They should of ended the series with
Spoiler:


Damn I'm going off topic now I better stop
Agreed with the spoiler. That last episode was just plain stupid.
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Old 2004-01-20, 23:20   Link #32
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Agreed with the spoiler. That last episode was just plain stupid.
It is difficult to end a series when the manga hasn't even ended yet.
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Old 2004-01-20, 23:29   Link #33
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It is difficult to end a series when the manga hasn't even ended yet.
What?!?! where can i find this manga?

but does it talk about sogura being old or still young?
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Old 2004-01-21, 00:47   Link #34
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POPOTAN! Very good plot as far as I've seen
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Old 2004-01-21, 03:40   Link #35
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What?!?! where can i find this manga?

but does it talk about sogura being old or still young?
I live in Japan, so I do not have the slightest idea where you can get "Mahoromatic" manga in your home country (maybe someone else can provide you with a more info regarding where to buy this in your country).

However, I will give you a detailed description of "Mahoromatic" manga.

"Mahoromatic" is serialized in Monthly Comic GUM magazine. It is a collaboration project with the writer, Nakayama Bunjuuro and the manga artist, Didama Bou (with the "Di" as in the Japanese hiragana - ぢ, pronounced as "Ji").

Currently, there are seven volumes out. Be warned that the sixth volume comes in two versions: the limited edition boxset which comes with a Mahoro figure, and the regular version. The cover art for the manga on these two versions are actually different, so I ended up buying both versions...

The manga artist, Didama Bou, was actually a fairly famous doujinshi artist who specialized (and in many ways, still does in "Mahoromatic") in "loli-and-flat-chested-girl" drawings. He is also known to love "smaller breasts over large boobs." His art style is what many otakus would consider to be in the "moe~" area, and is the main reason why "Mahoromatic" became popular (in addition to the fact that GAINAX took on the anime).

Well, enough of my rants, go out and search for "Mahoromatic" manga.

link to official "Mahoromatic" manga info: http://www.mahoro-matic.com/item/item_books.html
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Old 2004-01-21, 05:29   Link #36
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What about Ebichu, ain't that a ecchi anime too?
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Old 2004-02-25, 13:39   Link #37
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Old 2004-02-25, 14:28   Link #38
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EIKEN is alot of ecchi enough to last u a life time..
But on bittorent theres only one released..but still..
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Old 2004-02-25, 15:20   Link #39
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I would recomend Futari Echii, is a little bit hentai, but not in a bad way, is kind of a romance, echii, and comedy. Just go to the triad's home page.
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Old 2004-04-05, 20:10   Link #40
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for sure Green Grenn *warning ep 9 is escpecially*

Eh? I think you're talking about Eps. 8 (that's the bathhouse one). Eps. 9 is the temple one. The one part in 8 just about killed me though, I almost died laughing. Overall, I'd say that though I'm normally not into ecchi, that this series was awesome. Definite recommendation.

Edit: O wait... I rewatched it... My eyes are scarred, it is Eps. 9...

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