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Old 2009-08-13, 04:24   Link #101
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As for AT2:

Spoiler:
Spoiler for AT2:


Spoiler for Shurelia in AT2:
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Old 2009-08-13, 05:22   Link #102
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Apart from the tower administrators none of the inhabitants of each world know about the existence of the other worlds. It's possible that AT1 was meant to be a standalone game but with the decision to make a sequel they had to retcon "no other lands" into "other lands but nobody knows." But I seem to recall a mention of two other towers in AT1.

And Shurelia shows up in AT2 not as a cosmosphere cameo but as herself (through the tower interface, but still herself), but obviously you haven't gotten that far yet.
The second tower was on the other wing of Horus which was destroyed during the great war which sunk the wing. Leaving only the current wing of horus being the only one left.

I say AT2 is just one massive screw up just to bank on the cult popularity of the first game.
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Old 2009-08-13, 06:02   Link #103
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Spoiler for AT2:
Yeah, I realized I made a typo.

Spoiler:
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Old 2009-08-13, 11:44   Link #104
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http://artonelico.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page

seriously, it gives a in depth time line for both games 1 and 2, assuming everything is constant there should be a 3rd game for the 3rd/final tower where apparently Revatails enslaved the humans.
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Old 2009-08-13, 15:26   Link #105
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http://artonelico.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page

seriously, it gives a in depth time line for both games 1 and 2, assuming everything is constant there should be a 3rd game for the 3rd/final tower where apparently Revatails enslaved the humans.
I don't see anything about the location of Metafalica. We all know that the only existing world is the wings of horus. One of the ones dropped during a great war. Leaving only one wing left. As we see in the first game, right beneath is the sea of death, and we spent the first game going up.

So I can only assume the first game lied to us and a second floating land was built. Since according to the time line El Elemia was apart of the construction of Meta. So it shouldn't be a mystery to anyone that it exist. Especially the way the history was constantly being told in the first one, as well as the way people spoke about the world.

*sigh... the 2nd game just screwed up all the logic of the first game. The creators just conveniently created an additional time line in an attempt to make sense of it.
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Old 2009-08-13, 16:20   Link #106
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I don't mind the twist in the story. I just excuse it by saying "they didn't know of other worlds". After all, even in AT2 no one besides the administrators knows of the other two worlds.
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Old 2009-08-14, 11:53   Link #107
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There are drama CD's and other books which is how the time line was put together from, from what i know there isn't a official timeline just what people put together from there translations.

it's specifically states that the general populace in AT1 forgot over time the truth behind the towers existence. You play AT1 from the stand point of a ignorant bumpkin descendant (yes lyner is a ignorant bumpkin).

While it could just be a ret-con, there's enough information that points to my forgotten past point, which is the majority of the populace over the hundreds of years lost the truth of the situation. The only 3 characters that are currently alive old enough to know any true details of the past are Shurelia, Mir, and, Freylia. Even then AT1 never really explained why the the only land mass was the floating island, and what happened to the rest of the world so it's likely the expansions were planned on some level, the dependence on the popularity of the series determining if it would get a sequel.
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Old 2009-08-14, 15:45   Link #108
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Racial isolation and lack of communication with other worlds does mke people forget in a few generations. Plus, it ain't hard to mold public opinion if the above two stand true.
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Old 2009-08-15, 00:12   Link #109
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I played AT2 before starting AT1 and considering that I had spent 38 hours on the second game prior to spending 15 hours on the first game, I can't seem to understand the relation between the two towers, not mentioning that the ancient land of Metafalica which is used to create the second tower, possibly also the first tower wasn't present in the first game. In fact, Metafalica isn't really the land used to create the second tower but it is rather complicated and confusing.

However, I do not think these two towers are parallel worlds either but then, some of the things just don't add up. Apparently, there were tons of cameos in the second tower and also what Spica said.. Spica know of a guy long long ago who was kind of like the protagonist of AT2. She was obviously referring to Lyner of AT1. Jakuri on AT2 had also spoke of having a friend who likes bunnies and cute things long ago and that is obviously Shurelia-sama. This makes the non-related two towers connected yet at the same time, the story makes little sense either. Perhaps, its as you said that the majority of the people living in the first and second towers do not have diplomatic ties with each other just like the Teru tribe in AT1 who block humans from climbing the tower for their own reasons preventing people from reaching the Frozen Eye. Generally, the two towers are connected yet very loosely. Perhaps, that gap will be filled in the third Ar Tonelico game which is most likely still in development as that I have heard nothing of it.
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Old 2010-04-26, 13:51   Link #110
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got the recently and close to finishing.

Anyways did anyone else notice that Shurelia VN was very similar to Beat Angel Esclayer, minus the H stuff.
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Old 2012-12-12, 16:27   Link #111
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Hi i have a question about Ar tonelico I and II is the romance element proeminent in them ? Are they focused on characters interactions, lots of story and dialogue ? Having gameplay ain't bad but i kind of hope for it to also focus just as much on character interactions and story.
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Old 2012-12-12, 22:21   Link #112
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It does focus on the interaction and story since the gameplay... isn't that much (but at least AT2 is still pretty good). The romance are so-so, but there are a couple of sweet moment that you might like.

I'd suggest not to play the first one if you're only focusing on the romance part and try AT2/3. But if you're interested in world-building and the story as a whole, start with that one.
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