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Old 2008-03-31, 11:14   Link #81
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Those 2 series you list though don't go for as much realism that Gundam 00 does. It'd be out of place in a series like this. Hallelujah as a seperate personality is gone. I do see traits of his beginning to show in Allelujah though.

It just occured to me that there might be a very good reason as to why the "Hallelujah" side of Allelujah might not be evident at the start of season 2. Hallelujah's only ever really come out when he's been fighting. Since CB won't have been activev for 4 years, it's very possible that Allelujah just hasn't touched upon his "Hallelujah" side which is why he's the same as ever when they start S2. But as they get back into direct action, he starts to draw out his "Hallelujah" side and slowly his personality changes to become a combine of the 2.
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Old 2008-03-31, 13:32   Link #82
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yah i guess i'm being effected by something like the seed in gundam seed series.

But i do get the feeling that for the start of s2, Al might have gone under the radar for the full 4 years and working as some civilian. I look foward to the day to seeing the former super soldier wearing a McDonald's apron
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Old 2008-03-31, 15:48   Link #83
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I can see him working as a civilian somewhere so as to be blending in during the 4 year break whilst CB rebuilds, but I don't see him seperater from CB. Kyrios would most likely have been retrieved. Plus he'd need medical attention for his face/eye. And that'd be hard to explain off. Plus CB's medical tech seems more advanced. His only real place to get treated is with CB, and there is no reason for him not to return. If anything everyone's will to continue was stronger at the end than at the start of the series.
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Old 2008-04-01, 04:05   Link #84
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He's probably somewhere in a bar, drinking alcohol (thank you, Sumeragi), wearing shades, watching on tv the world changing, thinking about Marie. Wang and her giant peke will come and ask him to join CB again. Then he'll say he'll think about it, move to where he's hiding what's left of Kyrios and bring it back to CB for upgrade
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Old 2008-04-01, 11:52   Link #85
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I really doubt he's left CB. I wouldn't be surprised if he took some time out to think things over. He was left a mess with not only his injury, but the lose of Hallelujah and the discovery of Mary (this feels more natural to me than some of the other suggestions with Allelujah's name). But I feel that everyone in CB who survived at the end of the series has come out of it with an even stronger belief than when the series started. The legacy of what they've started, plus what those who have died have left them has made them more commited to finish what they started.

Besides, the best way he'd be able to have contact with Soma is through CB. Since he can't go up to her and say Hi as she'd sense him coming without realizing who he really is and have him captured.
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Old 2008-04-01, 13:31   Link #86
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I was half serious. We haven't seen Allelujah drinking again after episode 11, although he's supposed to learn why adults like bitter drinks. The joke was alluding to similar scenes in MSG and Wing.
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Old 2008-04-01, 14:56   Link #87
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Allelujah doesn't strike me as the type to drown his sorrows in drink like Sumeragi. He's too serious fo rme to think he'd ever become much of a drinker. Although that might depend on how much of Hallelujah's personality he takes on.
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Old 2008-04-01, 15:12   Link #88
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Am I the only one that thinks his name is absolutely ridiculous? When I heard it on the show I was like... "You have to be kidding me." Then again Lockon Stratos is pretty bad too.
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Old 2008-04-01, 15:23   Link #89
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He's probably somewhere in a bar, drinking alcohol (thank you, Sumeragi), wearing shades, watching on tv the world changing, thinking about Marie. Wang and her giant peke will come and ask him to join CB again. Then he'll say he'll think about it, move to where he's hiding what's left of Kyrios and bring it back to CB for upgrade
hmm... no wonder that played out so well in my head. Although as unlikely as it may, it would be awsome if that happened. I don't see why he wudn't want to leave CB tho. I mean if he stayed in CB he would have had to fight some more and his oponent could be marie/mary [and yes i think mary would be a better spelling for it]. Therefore he doesn't want to fight against something from his past and obviously has some significance knowing that he might be ordered to eliminate her without getting things straight first.

Also i've noticed this problem. Now that Hal is gone, if Al goes near mary, wudn't he start having that headache problem again? Like from what i see, it's cuz of Hal that they can stop that headache. Then again, was it because he had 2 personalities that it effected his brain waves or something of the like
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Old 2008-04-01, 16:06   Link #90
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Soma being near never seemed to affect Halle. Perhaps now he's accepted that part of himself (more or less), maybe Alle-chan will be okay..
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Old 2008-04-01, 16:44   Link #91
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hmm... no wonder that played out so well in my head. Although as unlikely as it may, it would be awsome if that happened. I don't see why he wudn't want to leave CB tho. I mean if he stayed in CB he would have had to fight some more and his oponent could be marie/mary [and yes i think mary would be a better spelling for it]. Therefore he doesn't want to fight against something from his past and obviously has some significance knowing that he might be ordered to eliminate her without getting things straight first.

Also i've noticed this problem. Now that Hal is gone, if Al goes near mary, wudn't he start having that headache problem again? Like from what i see, it's cuz of Hal that they can stop that headache. Then again, was it because he had 2 personalities that it effected his brain waves or something of the like
But it's not like he could ever go near Soma outside of CB since he'd just be arrested for having been part of CB to being with. Ironically, although it'll probably mean he'd have to fight her, being with CB is the only way he can "safely" approach her.

Also I think that the 2 sides coming together will solve his headache problem. I felt from an early point that Hallelujah wasn't affected. And that seemed to be proved later on. Also there was no sign of it when they joined together.
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Old 2008-04-01, 23:30   Link #92
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Am I the only one that thinks his name is absolutely ridiculous? When I heard it on the show I was like... "You have to be kidding me." Then again Lockon Stratos is pretty bad too.
They're code names. Just like Setsuna F. Seiei isn't Setsuna(Soran Ibrahim)'s real name.

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Also i've noticed this problem. Now that Hal is gone, if Al goes near mary, wudn't he start having that headache problem again? Like from what i see, it's cuz of Hal that they can stop that headache. Then again, was it because he had 2 personalities that it effected his brain waves or something of the like
I'd imagine that Hal's just been assimilated into Al, or Al could have subconciously been blocking out Soma's waves to protect himself from even more trauma. Hal knowing all along probably means that Al did too, because Hal IS his subconcious(and vice versa whenever Hal is in control), but blocked it out with pain whenever near her.
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Old 2008-04-02, 00:22   Link #93
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Hallelujah gone? HAH! Put him in enough trouble and oops out comes Hal after 4 years of being dormant and then SHIT DIES.

Plus, I'm sure Hal would want Sumeragi and you know in which way I'm talking about.

I just hope to see Hal again. He's fun.
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Old 2008-04-02, 00:34   Link #94
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I just hope to see Hal again. He's fun.
He's more than fun, he is AWESOME! I just love his attitude and his fighting style. And the best part is when Hallelujah and Allelujah merge together become a true Super Soldier. They are unstoppable when working together. Kyrios only had half its limbs and they still slapped around Soma and Sergei like a couple of grunts. This is the coolest power-up ever! Better than that stupid "SEED Mode" from cosmic era.
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Old 2008-04-02, 00:44   Link #95
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[QUOTE]They're code names. Just like Setsuna F. Seiei isn't Setsuna(Soran Ibrahim)'s real name. [QUOTE]

Regarding his real name, it will be LOL if the rumors about his identity were true Too convenient I guess...

Anyways, I really look forward to a "new" Alle showng the side of Hal as part of him, rather than two different personalities.
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Old 2008-04-02, 03:36   Link #96
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They're code names. Just like Setsuna F. Seiei isn't Setsuna(Soran Ibrahim)'s real name.
It's a codename indeed, but didn't the kid in the flashback call him Allelujah ? Maybe they decided to take new names after being disposed of.
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Old 2008-04-02, 07:25   Link #97
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My view is Allelujah is his real name. Add in the fact that his other called himself Hallelujah, it'd be really convenient for such close names if it was just a codename. I feel that the kids in the SS program probably gave themselves names and that those names were only known to the kids. We know Soma has a different name to what Allelujah knew her by which adds to this. Since we know nothing of what he did between escaping the HRL, and joining CB, we don't know if he used a fake name, or Allelujah still. But judging by the fact he's using it in CB, I would have thought he decided to go back to the name he'd used back then since it was probably most natural for him, and it's not like he thought he'd run into anyone who'd know him by that name. It looks like the meisters had some say in their codenames, and Allelujah/Hallelujah is just too convenient, especially since we've seen the name used in flahsback.

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Hallelujah gone? HAH! Put him in enough trouble and oops out comes Hal after 4 years of being dormant and then SHIT DIES.

Plus, I'm sure Hal would want Sumeragi and you know in which way I'm talking about.

I just hope to see Hal again. He's fun.
As much as I'd like to see Hallelujah again, he's gone. And he needed to go for Allelujah to move on. But I don't see him totally gone. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if we saw Allelujah do a typical Hallelujah response to something as the 2 personalities merge with each other. He'll probably have some swings between the 2 before stabalizing out personality wise. This is why I want to see the merging of the personalities and not the finished product. And I feel this can happen even though 4 years has passed by Allelujah not being in a situation where his Hallelujah sied shows. Therefore the merging hasn't started. It showed in ep 25 even when they worked together that they stil retained their distinct personalities even though they were essentially one.
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Old 2008-04-02, 15:36   Link #98
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Wonder if he's gonna have a new hairstyle......
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Old 2008-04-02, 16:15   Link #99
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I prefer his original style. But I do see it changing so that both of his will be visible. Maybe not at the start of S2, but definately by the end as he fully becomes a complete person. It really depends on what his character is like at the start. Whether it's still pretty much the same Allelujah we've had so far, or a changed Allelujah because at least part, if not all of his Hallelujah side has merge with him.
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Old 2008-04-02, 16:37   Link #100
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They're code names. Just like Setsuna F. Seiei isn't Setsuna(Soran Ibrahim)'s real name.
Yeah I know they're codenames but they're still ridiculous nonetheless.
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