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Old 2010-12-04, 10:28   Link #1321
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Old 2010-12-04, 11:22   Link #1322
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It's less about saving Ryner than preventing the hero from devouring him, I think. I really doubt he gives a damn about Ryner himself, but since he's going to invade Roland, it's better for him if Sion doesn't gain some extra powers.

And Ryner has been the main character from day 1. What did you expect?o_O
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Old 2010-12-04, 16:50   Link #1323
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Was I the only one expecting Refal to say at the end "PUT YOUR GUNS ON!"?
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Old 2010-12-04, 19:24   Link #1324
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the emotion is nothing compared to the novel. it's not so much as in she needs to be devoured; but rather the beast wants to devour Ryner, but it was stopped and restrained by Artofaal's curse which the mother carried (the stab from Lieral did the implant, a quick surgery lol). so the beast in order to break free and chase after Ryner, needed to eat up the mother. in this novel this didn't happen instantly, she was eaten little by little.
Thanks for the clarification. Now, it then leads to, "what is Artofaal's curse?", and then "how did Ryner's mother get implanted from a sword wound (was her soul locked in there, or just an afterimage)?"

I guess, in a way, I am fortunate for not reading the novel, since I don't know all the good stuff I am missing and am satified with what I am getting in the anime. On the other hand, they are leaving so much information out that it can get confusing, so it sucks not to read the novels.
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Old 2010-12-04, 19:26   Link #1325
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Dunno guys, since the recap, this show has become "oh so much more" exciting.

My guess is that they overdid it with politics and shoujo for my tastes in the first two thirds

... and given the last episodes, it needs more Ryner/Ferris, and family; also Kiefer's come back was nice, but I rather see her with R+F, it would be extremely interesting. Claw and the damsel in distress were OK in their arc, but seem too redundant now, Milky has become less annoying, but still does not work out for me ... the worse is the gay-political couple ... it's so boring, they would be better of narrating the whole thing, it would be less annoying.

Anyway, I hope for the final episodes, they focus on the triangle and their struggles, and tone down politics

PS: I'm half-joking
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Old 2010-12-05, 09:41   Link #1326
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-Ferris's tears and blushing so cuuuuuuute <3.
-Gastark want ryner to be in his side .
-I'm SO intersting with mother scene :
Spoiler for from naruto manga.!\:
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Old 2010-12-05, 17:20   Link #1327
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So , is there a 2nd season or it'll end to 24-26 episodes?
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Old 2010-12-05, 21:57   Link #1328
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So , is there a 2nd season or it'll end to 24-26 episodes?
There's still no news whether they will make 2nd season or not. I think they will make an open ending (like CSR) in case they want to make 2nd season.
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Old 2010-12-06, 03:26   Link #1329
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So , is there a 2nd season or it'll end to 24-26 episodes?
I'd love to see Daiden animated, but even I have pretty low hopes for that, with denyuuden being one of the most underrated shows in recent years.

It looks like they're adapting some of the Toriden stories into drama CD format, though. Two of them came with DVD/Blu-ray vol.1, and I think two more are going to be included in Ferris' character CD, coming out in a few days.

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Spoiler for from naruto manga.!\:
lol I was reminded of that as well, even though denyuuden technically preceded it.
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Old 2010-12-06, 09:02   Link #1330
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There's still no news whether they will make 2nd season or not. I think they will make an open ending (like CSR) in case they want to make 2nd season.
i hope they just follow the novels, unlike with CRS, where they screwed it up so much they would have to go through a major patch up if they want to make a second season and still follow the original material...
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Old 2010-12-06, 11:47   Link #1331
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if all else fail, translators shall become your gods. so start worshipping (jk!) :lol:
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Old 2010-12-07, 23:35   Link #1332
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if all else fail, translators shall become your gods. so start worshipping (jk!) :lol:
Hope I could master japanese as soon as possible, so I can help
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Old 2010-12-09, 12:44   Link #1333
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Old 2010-12-09, 12:52   Link #1334
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Seeing Ferris flustered was the best part of the episode.
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Old 2010-12-09, 14:26   Link #1335
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Is episode 23 still an adaptation of the light novel or an original one? because the whole time I got the impression that it's like I'm watching a different series all together. I was just brought back to the series at the near end when a sudden battle starts.

I didn't even saw a single gastalk at this episode.
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Old 2010-12-09, 16:34   Link #1336
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So last episode didn't get elaborated on. And Sion's intentions seem mucher deeper than anything I could imagine right now. 3 more episodes to go, right? That'll be 3 episodes with lots of information to process I guess (hope).
Anyway, the normal life parts were nice. Actually, too harmonic. That pretty much gives the last scene a huge contrast, and how it transitioned over to the credits without any music at first. Epic impact. It's like in an RPG where your ally and close one turns out to be a final boss.
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Old 2010-12-09, 19:37   Link #1337
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I think they should have planned this out a lot better, but well, I can also guess it's also rather complicated nowdays when you don't know whether something is going to be successful or not. So, breaking away from the usual 25 episode format may be rather risky, especially when Denyūden is not THAT popular as a LN. Still, that doesn't change the fact they could have done a much better job.
I wish they did what SHAFT did with the last couple episodes of Bake, just put it up later and do just a couple more episodes. This break neck pace is killing me.

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Anyway, I also agree that, despite the need for this to be rushed, some scenes could have been delivered a lot better - especially Ferris vs Lieral and the scene with Ryner and the woman within his head. Alpha's design also came as a big WTF, since it didn't really resemble the appearance that was described in the LN.
I stopped watching the anime until I read this post and Alpha is totally beyond wtf (where the hell they came up with this shit). Ferris vs. Lieral (vs. Lucille; could've sworn Lucille showed his op sword here too) scene was mediocre (where did my badass Lieral go?), and the scene with the woman was rage.png for me. I loved that scene in the novel because it showed how much love there was and yet here the script was pretty bland and there wasn't much the VA could've done about improving it either.

I don't want DaiDenYuuDen if the script was written poorly like this one. Just want to give two big, fat middle-fingers to Itsuro Kawasaki and Kiyoko Yoshimura. Stay away from Kuro Usagi ffs.

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Old 2010-12-09, 22:29   Link #1338
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In my opinion, stuff like episode 23 were far too few in the actual series itself. Where 'character moments' were more well-rounded and showed stuff beyond their usual 'worrying about war,' even if it almost looked out of character.

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Old 2010-12-10, 01:22   Link #1339
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So last episode didn't get elaborated on. And Sion's intentions seem mucher deeper than anything I could imagine right now. 3 more episodes to go, right? That'll be 3 episodes with lots of information to process I guess (hope).
Next ep is the last one.



Also, translated the insert song here: http://defade.livejournal.com/347960.html

Took some minor liberties.

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Old 2010-12-10, 07:26   Link #1340
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I admit it, I cried.



Next ep is the last one.



Also, translated the insert song here: http://defade.livejournal.com/347960.html

Took some minor liberties.
thanks, Defade. Sub isn't out yet so I haven't watched the episode. But from novel spoilers... can I assume the main character of the insert song is Shion?
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