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Old 2007-12-22, 11:31   Link #1
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Graphics card suggestion

For my christmas present to me I am upgrading my graphics card but i am not sure what to get. Anyone have any suggestions? I am willing to go up to $200 but i wouldnt mind getting away and spending less than my threshold.
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Old 2007-12-22, 13:17   Link #2
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ATI 3850, by far the best card going around the $180 budget.

http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/12/...ard/page3.html

Almost as fast as my 2900xt for 1/2 the price.

PS It would help greatly to tell us what's in there now and what games you atr currently playing/planning to play.
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Old 2007-12-22, 19:59   Link #3
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If you can pay $220, then get the 8800GT (Newegg has $209 and $214 models) and you won't let it go for at least 3-4 years.

If not, ATI 3850 as hobbes_fan mentioned.
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Old 2007-12-22, 20:42   Link #4
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God damn you noobs. You all know that this is the way to go! Sheesh, how many times do I have to repeat myself? Stick six of these in SLI at $2400 each and not only it can render God, it can also cook you dinner.

( To those who didn't get the joke, it's just what it is, a useless post by me trying to be funny. That card has is no Gaming-grade video card. But again, the two best cards in his price range have been suggested already and I'm fine with either of those. )


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Old 2007-12-23, 06:04   Link #5
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HD3850 is the best value from under 200$ cards
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Old 2007-12-24, 09:26   Link #6
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Lmfao.

Get an 8800GT for $260. Reasons why here. Sacrifice another 60 dollars, FOR GLORY!
8800GT & Why it is Superior
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Old 2007-12-24, 12:33   Link #7
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Lmfao.

Get an 8800GT for $260. Reasons why here. Sacrifice another 60 dollars, FOR GLORY!
8800GT & Why it is Superior
$10's enough.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814150264

Sorry in advance for all the 8800GT whoring I've done over the past week. I want it really badly.
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Old 2007-12-24, 12:55   Link #8
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I will be buying an 8800GT in the spring.

although I prefer ATI, I think nvidia makes a card so much better currently that it warrants purchasing it over ATI. This is based on numerous PC magazine reviews I have read and talking with others.
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Old 2007-12-24, 15:04   Link #9
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Yeah but if he's playing WoW and other mmorpg's then it's a moot point. Sticking an 8800ULTRA in there isn't going to be any good. Even an x1650pro is overkill for that and similar games. Just a waste of the card potential and money. He says he's a WoW addict so I'm of the opinion a 3850 will last him a while. Had I not been using Vista AND using DX10 I wouldn't of even upgraded my x1950 pro to a 2900xt 1/2 a year ago.

I mean yeah if he plans to switch genres and play current generation (FEAR, Crysis, Bioshock, BF2142) FPS sure by all means get the 512mb 8800gt. Otherwise save your $$. It's important to consider the games he/she plays instead of just recommending him/her the current performance king

And as I said what's the point of future proofing? PCIE2.0 is being introduced on high end boards, DX10.1 is in the works. (Even the most gfx intensive game running around Crysis - will run at low to mid res 1366x768 on an nvidia 7800- a 3or4 year old card)

by mid next year these cards would have been already replaced with the next round of releases by ATI and NVidia.
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Old 2007-12-24, 17:57   Link #10
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I can bring an 8800 GTX to 5 FPS in MMOs...... Having a beefer card just means higher details in large raids or instences.

It also means you can box more clients. I was boxing 9 clients at one point :>
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Old 2007-12-25, 00:12   Link #11
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Is that typical mmorpg use? I don't think so. I can bring a trifire setup to it's knees by doing some intense GPU folding on top of playing Deus EX 1. I don't see your point.
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Old 2007-12-25, 00:58   Link #12
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Old 2007-12-25, 01:10   Link #13
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Is that typical mmorpg use? I don't think so. I can bring a trifire setup to it's knees by doing some intense GPU folding on top of playing Deus EX 1. I don't see your point.

My point was that MMOs can be graphically intensive. I'd love to see a 3850 render a large raid or seige in a MMO without problems.
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Old 2007-12-25, 03:33   Link #14
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Since we're talking about graphics cards, I asked this question some time ago, but I figure it bears asking again since the state of the art is a moving target.

Here are a few of my requirements:
  • My entertainment PC is mainly used for video playback and not much else.
  • A desktop machine might be used for video editing work and not much else. It will not be used to play games at all.
  • As a general rule, I do not game. What gaming I do is with games 2004 and prior that don't treat me TOO much like a criminal, and I have absolutely no desire to get into MMORPGs.
  • Is there really a point to SLI/Crossfire for my applications? I find either of these to be outright pointless since they're only useful for gamers (which I am not).

Thanks for any suggestions!

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Old 2007-12-25, 03:59   Link #15
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SLI/Crossfire is useless unless you're gaming at 1920x1200 or higher with full detail on. With that in mind, I'd say go for a Nvidia 8400GS or a ATI 2400Pro. Both are sub $50 cards with full H.264 decode acceleration. You'll need proper software in order to utilize the decoding feature though.


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Best Buy is having a sale on a 3850 for only 143.99.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1194053242019

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Old 2007-12-27, 08:39   Link #16
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@IRJustman: If it's just for video playback, I recommend the ATi Radeon HD3850/HD2600, full 1080p playback, DVD decoding, a max of up to 2560 x 1600 3D 32-BIT resolution, the 2600 uses AGP whilst the 3850 uses PCIe, don't know if that really matters THAT much to ya though...

The 3850's sold out though, on best buy, if you want to buy from best buy, go for the HD2600?

As for -RK-, beg or bleed for a 8800GT, it will not fail you, if not, get a 3870 for JUST $220 at best buy, or a 3850 elsewhere...
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Old 2007-12-28, 14:53   Link #17
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Since we're talking about graphics cards, I asked this question some time ago, but I figure it bears asking again since the state of the art is a moving target.

Here are a few of my requirements:
  • My entertainment PC is mainly used for video playback and not much else.
  • A desktop machine might be used for video editing work and not much else. It will not be used to play games at all.
  • As a general rule, I do not game. What gaming I do is with games 2004 and prior that don't treat me TOO much like a criminal, and I have absolutely no desire to get into MMORPGs.
  • Is there really a point to SLI/Crossfire for my applications? I find either of these to be outright pointless since they're only useful for gamers (which I am not).

Thanks for any suggestions!

--Ian.
No, you don't. You won't go over $150 for video playback...just make sure that the card supports the higher-end codecs like h.263/264, and you should do fine.

SLI/Crossfire is still something between wallet-bleeder and a scam (as in the benefits are sometimes negligible).
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Old 2007-12-29, 11:18   Link #18
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The fastest card around 2004 was I think the 7600gs. The 2400xt, 8500gt offer similar performance around a similar price and have HD hardware acceleration for next gen formats (Bluray/HDDVD) but as noted require special pay to use software. There's absolutely no need to SLI for video playback (there are exceptions like a render farm but not for average HTPC use.) Any recent graphics card with current drivers (Nvidia 7series and higher, ATI x1 series use the drivers on the website not on the disc) can output 1080p. All these video cards can output 2560x1600.

There is no need to buy a videocard for DVD playback. Integrated gfx is more than enough. For HD/Bluray a little help is required. For light gaming no more than around $100USD is needed. 2600xt/8600gt is my choice here and what I use with PowerdDVD Ultra and a Bluray drive.
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