AnimeSuki Forums

Register Forum Rules FAQ Members List Social Groups Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Go Back   AnimeSuki Forum > Anime Discussion > Older Series

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 2008-04-28, 18:31   Link #201
DanielSong39
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
I don't think Yoshiyuki is that dense when it comes to romance - but he is unwilling/unable to take a step forward until he is committed to someone.

Yoshiyuki wasn't that interested in Koko and their relationship in their first season was strictly on a trial basis. He had no interest in having a relationship Nanaka or Yume, so it didn't matter to him whether they were interested in him or not. Otome - well, the opportunity is there, but he's in no rush to push things forward.

I believe that Yoshiyuki is the type to take things slow and let a relationship develop naturally. Trying to force matters would only push him away. It's not that he doesn't notice that the other girls are interested in him - but he's only willing to fully commit himself to the person he truly loves. Alas, Koko, Nanaka, and Yume (so far) have fallen short of the standard. Otome may get there but the jury is out on that one. Keeping my fingers crossed...
DanielSong39 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2008-04-28, 18:55   Link #202
relentlessflame
 
*Administrator
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Age: 32
Quote:
Originally Posted by DanielSong39 View Post
I don't think Yoshiyuki is that dense when it comes to romance - but he is unwilling/unable to take a step forward until he is committed to someone.

Yoshiyuki wasn't that interested in Koko and their relationship in their first season was strictly on a trial basis. He had no interest in having a relationship Nanaka or Yume, so it didn't matter to him whether they were interested in him or not. Otome - well, the opportunity is there, but he's in no rush to push things forward.

I believe that Yoshiyuki is the type to take things slow and let a relationship develop naturally. Trying to force matters would only push him away. It's not that he doesn't notice that the other girls are interested in him - but he's only willing to fully commit himself to the person he truly loves. Alas, Koko, Nanaka, and Yume (so far) have fallen short of the standard. Otome may get there but the jury is out on that one. Keeping my fingers crossed...
Well... I at least think you're partly right. He's a character who always wants to follow his heart, let's say. He wants to do the right thing to everyone all the time, but can't figure out how to prioritize. That being said, he is also pretty dense at figuring out women's mixed signals. Yume and Koko are both very indirect about their feelings, and this causes nothing but grief for them. On the other hand, Nanaka is (refreshingly?) straightforward for the most part, so it made it much easier for Yoshiyuki to make a decision about how he feels about her.

Otome is sort of in-between. She's most straightforward in her affection towards Yoshiyuki, but at the same time can be more distant in her "responsible older sister" sort of mode. This works in her favour a bit, though, because it's easier for Yoshiyuki to notice her change in behaviour (i.e. it's really obvious when she's being distant because it's uncharacteristic). Yoshiyuki also knows (and now remembers) about her distant behaviour in the past, so it brings out his kindness and caring. Basically, for a number of reasons, it's easier for Yoshiyuki to "figure Otome out" (which I suppose makes sense, given that they are "ishin doutai" after all...) That doesn't necessarily mean that Otome is the one he's going to fall in love with, but his relationship with her is more stable/consistent.

(Again, the above is based only on what's been shown so far in the anime, so no worries about spoilers or the like.)
relentlessflame is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2008-04-29, 16:50   Link #203
blitz1/2
Tenshi's Defense Squadron
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Fighting against those who oppress the system
Quote:
Originally Posted by serenade_beta View Post
In eroges, 100% chance if you take the paths of your little sister.
In Da Capo (anime), 110%.
I meant in real life.
__________________

hai, hai. Onii-chan has his work cut out for him.
blitz1/2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2008-04-30, 01:23   Link #204
Cyz
"Show it to me"
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: In solitude, where we are least alone
Yoshiyuki's dense-ness () is amusing. Yume had the intentions but he doesn't get it . It's quite obvious that Yume has feelings more of a sibling type. Wonder if Otome too?
__________________
~~ Project Cyz ~~
"There is no spoon"
~~~~~
Currently Watching:
-- too lazy to put it together --
~~~~~
Current sig:
Takanashi Rikka from
Chuunibyou Demo Koi ga Shitai!
~~~~
Big thanx to Patchy for the sig
Cyz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2008-04-30, 02:17   Link #205
DanielSong39
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Some questions and comments about Episode 4:

Q:
1. Why couldn't Anzu sub in for Koko in the play? She wrote the play and she even had the luxury of reading the script since this was a puppet show.
2. Has Nanaka disappeared off the face of the earth? The play was obviously a foreshadowing but never imagined it would happen so soon.
3. Why does Sakura have to hide everything? At the very least, Otome should be informed as she is the "defender of justice" (or something like that).
4. Any chance Wataru asks Koko out? Now this would be fun to watch. I could imagine Koko getting upset at Yoshiyuki for not getting jealous. Insert Nanaka into the fray, and this could really blow up...

C:
1. Yoshiyuki's reactions to Yume's antics are pretty much spot on. He probably thinks Yume got rejected by the guy she really wanted to go with, and is too embarrassed to admit it. Besides, even if he suspects that Yume really likes him, he's not interested in her and would continue to treat her as a younger sister - so he's better off not knowing.
2. Yoshiyuki and Otome come across as a couple that has moved beyond the dating stage, as opposed to good friends that haven't quite taken the next step. Close, comfortable, and natural would be the terms I would use to describe their relationship. I believe Yoshiyuki/Otome was pretty much established at the end of episode 3, and I don't anticipate it changing.
3. Would love to see the rivalry between the sisters in full force. If Yoshiyuki for some reason broke his promise with Otome and decided to go with Yume - this would make this anime an EXACT COPY of D.C. Any bets on whether Yume starts coughing up sakura petals?
4. Sorry, but I don't like the fact that Sakura stayed so young. Would've much preferred to see an older Sakura - with an appearance and personality comparable to her grandmother from D.C. It would've made her interactions with her descendants a lot more believable. And it would've made potential Sakura/Junichi interactions a lot more interesting, to be sure (especially since Nemu is presumed to be dead).

Last edited by DanielSong39; 2008-04-30 at 10:41.
DanielSong39 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2008-04-30, 02:36   Link #206
relentlessflame
 
*Administrator
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Age: 32
Assuming you weren't just being rhetorical, I can at least comment on the questions.
Quote:
Originally Posted by DanielSong39 View Post
1. Why couldn't Anzu sub in for Koko in the play? She wrote the play and she even had the luxury of reading the script since this was a puppet show.
Well, memorizing the lines clearly isn't the issue (not only did she write it, but episode 2 established that she has a perfect memory). It's more that she can't act.
Quote:
Originally Posted by DanielSong39 View Post
2. Has Nanaka disappeared off the face of the earth? The play was obviously a foreshadowing but never imagined it would happen so soon.
She was busy doing her own class stuff during the school festival (as Yume was "supposed" to be). They're obviously trying to cut to the chase because they have a lot of material to cover. Hate to say it, but I think Nanaka seems, for the most part, "last season".
Quote:
Originally Posted by DanielSong39 View Post
3. Why does Sakura have to hide everything? At the very least, Otome should be informed as she is the "defender of justice" (or something like that).
The short answer would be because, if the truth were obvious, there'd be no mystery or plot!
Quote:
Originally Posted by DanielSong39 View Post
4. Any chance Wataru asks Koko out? Now this would be fun to watch. I could imagine Koko getting upset at Yoshiyuki for not getting jealous. Insert Nanaka into the fray, and this could really blow up...
See #2. Based on the plot premise established in the first 4 episodes and the fact that this season is only 13 episodes long, I don't think they'll have time for anything like this. This season is about Otome, Yume and, to a lesser extent, Anzu (the three heroines not focused on last season). Keep in mind that another way of looking at this episode would be to see it as "17 of 26"; we're approaching the end now.
relentlessflame is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2008-04-30, 10:48   Link #207
DanielSong39
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
In any case it's a strong start to the second season and I'm sure the important question (#3) will be answered by the end. Still, I'm starting to wonder who's getting the shaft in D.C. II. If the first season is any indication, the diasters are unknowingly caused by a broken heart, as a result of a broken promise. Since the promise with Otome is being fulfilled, the signs point to Yume... we shall see.

The other option is Sakura, who may have a secret grudge against the town for some unknown reason. As long as Aisia is gone for good, I'll be satisfied.
DanielSong39 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2008-04-30, 15:19   Link #208
Deathkillz
~ You're dead ^__^* ~
*Graphic Designer
 
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: uk, England
Age: 24
Send a message via MSN to Deathkillz
Yea...I like Otome, but a nagging feeling tells me that because her story has started first, she will be the one most likely to lose out to Yume. It's less common to see a story like this backtracking to a girl's arc who is finished first and having her be the one the guy chooses. But it could be that the arc that this series is finishing with is Otome's, seen as her story isn't near completing. Where is the DRAMA
__________________

Siggy: hohohohoho~ | AnimeHistory welcome to our blog ~ | Summer2009 early review
Under the radar series Summer2009: Kanamemo, GA Geijutsuka Art, NEEDLESS
Deathkillz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2008-04-30, 16:28   Link #209
Vexx
Obey the Darkly Cute ...
*Author
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: On the whole, I'd rather be in Kyoto ...
Age: 57
bleh, still halfway through the first season... but still downloading this for a "rainy day".
Heck I may have to start over to regrasp the various threads.

so thats why I haven't said much :P
Vexx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2008-04-30, 18:25   Link #210
MonkeyDude
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Quote:
Originally Posted by Deathkillz View Post
Yea...I like Otome, but a nagging feeling tells me that because her story has started first, she will be the one most likely to lose out to Yume. It's less common to see a story like this backtracking to a girl's arc who is finished first and having her be the one the guy chooses. But it could be that the arc that this series is finishing with is Otome's, seen as her story isn't near completing. Where is the DRAMA
There will be drama, maybe even some tears if they do some great arc interweaving. I would actually prefer a Yume ending over an Otome one, which can't really be explained since it involves game spoilers.

Too bad Nanaka disappeared...or they just don't want to pay her VA

Last edited by relentlessflame; 2008-05-01 at 20:15. Reason: Removed game-hinting spoiler.
MonkeyDude is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2008-05-03, 09:41   Link #211
Owaranai Destiny
Nick of Time~
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Guze no Sekai
Age: 27
Send a message via AIM to Owaranai Destiny Send a message via MSN to Owaranai Destiny
I'm thinking a sad ending. Otome's words seem somewhat cryptic, and her crying seemed almost out of place if it was mainly just based on the script of the play itself. I'd imagine her 'magician of justice' might also have a deeper meaning, and I do think the comments are not made just for the heck of it, but for self-assurance to herself.

Or maybe I'm thinking too much into it. I don't know.

For some reason I'm trying Season II out, and it actually works even though I did not finish Season I. Perhaps it's the emphasis on different heroines now, but it certainly looks and seems much enjoyable somehow.
__________________
Owaranai Destiny is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2008-05-03, 09:58   Link #212
Jaka
Banned
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Season 1 is merely a setup for season 2...
13 episodes of blankness >.<
Jaka is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2008-05-03, 10:13   Link #213
Vegard Aune
Senior Member
 
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: In the middle of nowhere
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaka View Post
Season 1 is merely a setup for season 2...
13 episodes of blankness >.<
Pretty much. That was propably why they chose the one storyline from the game that had next to nothing to do with the others in season 1. Even though it was just a setup, they still needed a plot. And I still thought D.C.II was better than D.C.S.S., which I can hardly find anything good about, except the first 5 episodes and the ending... (Or maybe I just liked it because I'm such an obsessed Minatsu-fanboy... many others thought D.C.S.S. was better than D.C.II season 1. But I doubt anyone would disagree that the current season is better than both of them.)

EDIT: Not really related to anything, but I just went to check if a raw of episode 5 had been posted. (Because I wasn't sure if the show would even air this week, seeing how everything else seems to be taking a break) It had, and there was a rather rude comment beneath the torrent:
Quote:
Originally Posted by The raw-providers whose name I won't mention
Die Chihiro Die!
Do the raw-providers have something against fansubbers or something?
__________________
Thinking of stuff to put in a signature is hard...

Last edited by Vegard Aune; 2008-05-03 at 13:54.
Vegard Aune is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2008-05-03, 14:03   Link #214
serenade_beta
マジ天使
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Spoiler for ep5:
__________________

-Tried to start a blog --> http://tdnshumi.blogspot.com/ (Mainly about video games)
-R.I.P. Hiroshi Yamauchi, Gaming wouldn't have been the same without you (9/19/13)
serenade_beta is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2008-05-03, 14:19   Link #215
rg4619
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Quote:
And I still thought D.C.II was better than D.C.S.S., which I can hardly find anything good about, except the first 5 episodes and the ending... (Or maybe I just liked it because I'm such an obsessed Minatsu-fanboy... many others thought D.C.S.S. was better than D.C.II season 1. But I doubt anyone would disagree that the current season is better than both of them.)
In many ways, I think they're all of similar quality. Certainly, one's enjoyment of a story probably depends more on their views of a particular character (or whether they buy into the associated drama). From my perspective, the Sakura/Nemu conflict was no better than the Aisia or Minatsu melodrama, so I don't understand how one can be fantastic while another terrible.

Da Capo writing is always a bit limp and overblown, but that's part of the charm. With each series (including D.C. II SS), I cringe at times, but the characters and "feel good" nature never fail to win me over.
rg4619 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2008-05-03, 14:22   Link #216
Kaoru Chujo
Kuno Misaki
 
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Spoiler for ep5:
__________________
Kuno Misaki 久野美咲 age 21. 2009 - King of Thorn (Alie). 2010 - Oreimo (Bridget). 2012 - Black Rock Shooter (Hiro). 2013 - Problem children (Melln). Ro-Kyu-Bu! SS (Mimi), Log Horizon (Serara), Galilei Donna (Grande Rosso). 2014 - Noragami (Keiichi), Escha and Logy (Kuu), Zvezda Plot (Hoshimiya Kate/Venera-sama), Wixoss (Tama), Mahouka Koukou (Kasuga Nanami), Flag o Oraretara (Kurumiko), Nanana (Saki), Seven Deadly Sins (Hawk).
Hashihime blog | Twitter @nakanokimi | autumn 2014 previews | autumn 2014 schedule |
characters/seiyuus: Sailor Moon Crystal | Akatsuki no Yona | Amagi Brilliant Park | Coffin-Princess Chaika | Cross Ange | Daitoshokan no Hitsujikai | Danna ga Nani ga Itteru | Denkigai no Honya-san | Donten ni Warau | Fate/Stay Night UBW | Le Fruit de la Grisaia | Gugure! Kokkuri-san | Inou Battle wa Nichijou-kei no Naka de | Madan no Ou to Vanadis | Orenchi no Furo Jijou | Seven Deadly Sins | Shigatsu wa Kimi no Uso | Shirobako | Sora no Method | Tribe Cool Crew | Trinity Seven | Ushinawareta Mirai o Motomete | Wixoss
Kaoru Chujo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2008-05-03, 16:32   Link #217
relentlessflame
 
*Administrator
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Age: 32
Spoiler for Episode 5:
relentlessflame is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2008-05-03, 17:46   Link #218
Deathkillz
~ You're dead ^__^* ~
*Graphic Designer
 
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: uk, England
Age: 24
Send a message via MSN to Deathkillz
ep 5
Spoiler:
__________________

Siggy: hohohohoho~ | AnimeHistory welcome to our blog ~ | Summer2009 early review
Under the radar series Summer2009: Kanamemo, GA Geijutsuka Art, NEEDLESS
Deathkillz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2008-05-03, 19:15   Link #219
relentlessflame
 
*Administrator
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Age: 32
Quote:
Originally Posted by Deathkillz View Post
ep 5
Spoiler:
Spoiler for Episode 5:
relentlessflame is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2008-05-03, 21:48   Link #220
Kristen
Senior Member
*Author
 
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Virginia Tech
I'm going to sound a little bit morbid and sadistic here...

I kind of was hoping that Yume would have gotten more than an ankle sprain. I was hoping for like a broken knee or tibia, or something in the leg. Having her on crutches for the rest of the season would be incredibly amazing. I think I have an injury moe or something, but I find characters like that to be so amazing, and pretty cute too. So, as of now I'm kind of disappointed that her injury isn't something that'll change the season. At least, not how it looks now.
__________________
Kristen is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
bishoujo, circus, drama, magic, romance, school life, seinen

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 21:50.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
We use Silk.