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View Poll Results: Byukugan or sharingan?
Byukugan 407 35.51%
Sharingan 647 56.46%
Neither 92 8.03%
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Old 2008-04-01, 14:42   Link #1841
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Maybe they should focus an arc on Naruto...
Oh yeah... That guy... meh.

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Old 2008-04-21, 18:56   Link #1842
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I always wondered. Could the sharingan copy an animal or weapon summoning jutsu? I know you need to have a blood contract with the animal. But if the sharingan just magically copies the chakra flow of a justu(I am not saying it can. That's still up in the air since it's only suppose to copy movement) then it should be able to copy a summon jutsu. Now the animal might not want to help, but it could be used as a shield...
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Old 2008-04-21, 19:17   Link #1843
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No that's not up in the air you can't copy blood contract and the Sharingan isn't supposed to only copy movements.
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Old 2008-04-21, 20:41   Link #1844
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Kakashi did say it as if the byakugan was better than the sharingan during the chunin exam but at that time, he didnt know how powerful the sharingan really was. He hasnt fought itachi yet. He said that because the byakugan was able to see the tenketsu and the sharingan wasnt able to. Thats all.

I remember something about the sharingan was born from the byakugan. Imo, sharingan is way wayy stronger. Just like how future generation of ninjas should be stronger than the previous generation since they advance, its the same for sharingan.

U cant even fight 1v1 with a byakugan user and the top byakugan user, that old guy who trained negi really cant compare to itachi.

Byakugan is far weaker than the sharingan, all it can do is see 360 degrees and see from distance. The sharingan can even look into your soul, control you, copy your abilities,etc and god knows wat other unknown powers it posseses.
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Old 2008-04-21, 20:52   Link #1845
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If I dont have to fight, then byukugan might be much more interesting because of the 360 degrees of sight
But if its about using it for a fight, then Id rather have sharingan
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Old 2008-04-21, 20:56   Link #1846
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U cant even fight 1v1 with a byakugan user and the top byakugan user, that old guy who trained negi really cant compare to itachi.

Byakugan is far weaker than the sharingan, all it can do is see 360 degrees and see from distance. The sharingan can even look into your soul, control you, copy your abilities,etc and god knows wat other unknown powers it posseses.
I do not know if I can agree with this. In reality, we have only ever seen Neji fight, so we have no idea what Kishimoto could have in store for the Byakugan (there has been some fan support for a Byakugan Evolution similiar to MS, only without killing someone ).

Added to that, the Byakugan instantly sees beyond any Genjutsu (it is currently unknown if it can defeat Tsukiyomi), whereas as an actual effort (however minimal) is required to unlock genjutsu with the Sharingan (the Byakugan simply sees beyond the genjutsu, whereas the Sharingan has to analyse it and then break through the genjutsu). So, in that respect, the Byakugan clearly is superior. Sadly enough Kishimoto has not discussed the possibility of a Hyuuga Genjutsu master (which is what I assumed he was going to do with Hinata (after the Byakugan was introduced), considering the fact that she was put on a team with a Genjutsu mistress (even though the Byakugan can already see beyond any genjutsu) but that never occured).

That is not to disagree with your statement that the Sharingan has been shown to be stronger, this is simply to add to the discussion.
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Old 2008-04-21, 21:47   Link #1847
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Dude, neji is nthg. Neji's teacher cant seem to do anything too impressive either and we seen him fight before. Sure he takes opponents down in 1-2 hit and thats it.
The history of the byakugan isnt impressive either.

Just the fact that u rarely ever see neji get much screen time should tell u something. LOL that byakugan is superior. Every1 in the story from orochimaru to akatsuki recognizes the power of sharingan, rinnegan... none acknowledges byakugan or even gives a crap about it although its existence is very well known, unlike the rinnegan.

Heck, neji, who is the most gifted young byakugan user cant do much when he went up against the fish guy.

Sasuke is one of the main characters. And its always been about the sharingan and it would be no sense to make the focus suddenly shift to byakugan and perhaps the entry of a hyuga madara. And cmon the byakugan is only a looking ability, thats it.
Sharingan can copy, can cast spells,etc.

And even hinata got stronger by learning some kinda hitting Hyuga clan move, there is no additional or secret byakugan eye move. Its just good for recon, I have nvr seen it beat any genjutsu either.
And common sense---> Byakugan doesnt look cool enough to be strong lol.

I dunno wat else they can add to byakugan to make it stronger anyways. Casting spells via eye, copying spells via eye , controlling of users has all been taking up by sharingan. On the other hand, it looks like the rinnegan might have something.

Its been said that u cant fight a sharingan user 1v1. It doesnt say that if u are a hyuuga, u can fight 1v1 with a sharingan user.

P.S> whoever was it who plotted to steal the byakugan from the hyuga clan was a pervert. I bet the hyuga clan nvr pay for porn either.
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Old 2008-04-21, 22:07   Link #1848
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Added to that, the Byakugan instantly sees beyond any Genjutsu.
I'm affraid this statement also comes under the "fan support" you were talking about.
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Old 2008-04-21, 22:25   Link #1849
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I'm affraid this statement also comes under the "fan support" you were talking about.
Damn, does it. I could have sworn I read that in an interview or in the data book. Oh well, back to the drawing board , and thanks for the update.
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Old 2008-04-21, 22:28   Link #1850
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I'm affraid this statement also comes under the "fan support" you were talking about.
agree, byakugan has yet to show do that. I dunno if it can see through genjutsu at all, i nvr read or seen anything about it doing that. And honestly i think its crap cause if it were true, they woul have strategised to pit hyuga byakugan users against sharingan users by now.
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Old 2008-04-21, 22:48   Link #1851
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agree, byakugan has yet to show do that. I dunno if it can see through genjutsu at all, i nvr read or seen anything about it doing that. And honestly i think its crap cause if it were true, they woul have strategised to pit hyuga byakugan users against sharingan users by now.
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That being said, I think I misappropriated some of the Byakugan's abilities, or at least unnaturally hyped them . My bad.
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Old 2008-04-21, 23:07   Link #1852
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I think the incredible chakra control of those who have mastered the Jyuken is still the best bet to dispell Genjutsu rather than the Byakugan itself.
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Old 2008-04-21, 23:26   Link #1853
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Being able to see 360 degrees and far far away is one major advantage already but imo(stealth is an integral part of a ninja), sharingan beats it hands down.
...Extra points if u are a pervert as well.
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Old 2008-04-22, 00:02   Link #1854
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Again, I never mentioned dispelling, I specifically stated that the Byakugan can see beyond the "invading" chakra. I never mentioned if the Byakugan can help others break out of a genjutsu, I only mentioned that the Byukagan can see through the genjutsu. It is like a magician trying to do a magic trick all the while the audience can see the mirrors that the magician is using, so even if the trick is performed, the audience saw the slight-of-hand in the mirrors, so they are not suprised.. The Byakugan might be able to simply not be affected by genjutsu.

Whether this is true or not has yet to confirmed (that is why it is speculation ), and I doubt it will confirmed or denied any time soon.

In the end, it doesn't really matter. The Sharingan is clearly superior and unless some drastic Byakugan evolution occurs, the Sharingan will always be overall better.

btw, I placed your post under a spoiler since some of that info is from recent manga chapters.
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Old 2008-04-22, 12:35   Link #1855
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Added the spoiler tag..(thanks)
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Old 2008-04-23, 17:09   Link #1856
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Right now there is an undeniable ammouts of fan support and bias flooding both sides of this argument. There is no evidence to really say either one is stronger than the other, beside the amount of page time that is being invested in dissecting the sharingans techniques.

People are basing their arguments on elite ninjas that wield the sharingan. Without any talent one cant even unlock the sharingan, and then having doesnt mean that one would be able to wield it effectively enough to be somewhat of a force to reckon with. With all the copying abilities that the sharingan has, you rarely if ever see anyone use it as effectively as the original user. Sakura, without the sharingan, has just as much ability to see through genjustu as anyone else does.
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As far as the byakugan goes, to see the flow of chakra, 360 degree vision, and complete control your own chakra and your opponents, a proficient nin could control the battlefield from a distance and in close range. About the seeing through genjustu aspect of it, it is not beyond the scope of the byukugan. Everything takes a certain amount of chakra to be useful, even activating the sharingan and even moreso the mange, without chakra flow it damn near makes every jutsu useless.

If I was a proficient nin, I would much rather have the byukugan. If I wasnt, I would rather take the sharingan because there is much larger chance that you would be able to become elite. while with the byukugan you can easily be hinata.

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Old 2008-04-24, 14:19   Link #1857
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the sharingan without a doubt, and i'm not even including
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Old 2008-04-24, 16:24   Link #1858
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I would rather copy techniques, movements etc....have a spinny eye that can put people under hypnosis and make illusions seem real and have super-special-awesome speed
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Old 2008-04-24, 16:56   Link #1859
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if u have sharingan, couldn't u copy byakugan? just a thought...
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Old 2008-04-24, 17:05   Link #1860
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if u have sharingan, couldn't u copy byakugan? just a thought...
Thankfully enough, no. The Sharingan can not copy genetics...yet. Give it a few years and I am sure Kishimoto will come up with some way for the Sharingan to copy genetics.

Here is the bloodline copying scenario, you have to place a drop of blood on the fully formed Sharingan, and then it will be able to analyze the properties of the blood and instantly turn the host body into a vessel that can use the blood's bloodline...I just scared myself with how feasible that sounds due to the current storylines.
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