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Old 2014-01-12, 22:39   Link #1061
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I wonder how much profit arpeggio make. isnt that CG anime is cheaper than 2D anime?
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Old 2014-03-08, 11:09   Link #1062
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Strike the blood sales:

Volume 2
Blu-ray - 4,348
DVD - 1,002

Total 5,350 copies on its first week.
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Old 2014-08-07, 13:24   Link #1063
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I've been looking at the amazon BD/DVD pre-order rankings for today, and I've been wondering, how exactly do all these number correlate to each other? For example how can one BD release have higher points then another, but a lower ranking? What exactly do the points mean or stand for and how are they calculated? How do these numbers correlate to actual number of BD's/DVD's being ordered? A ranking example below.

***,123位/***,144位 ★ (**2,647 pt) [*,*17予約] 2014/09/17 Free! -Eternal Summer- [BD]
***,131位/***,121位 ★ (**1,792 pt) [*,*84予約] 2014/09/24 Aldnoah.Zero[BD]
***,221位/***,201位 ★ (***,982 pt) [*,*25予約] 2014/09/26 Tokyo Ghoul[BD]
***,287位/***,260位 ○ (**1,837 pt) [*,**2予約] 2014/09/17 Free! -Eternal Summer- [DVD]
***,296位/***,342位 ★ (**1,019 pt) [*,**1予約] 2014/08/27 Black Butler - Book of circus[DVD]
***,334位/***,307位 ★ (**1,028 pt) [*,**4予約] 2014/08/27 Bakumatsu Rock[BD]
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Old 2014-08-07, 13:53   Link #1064
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I've been looking at the amazon BD/DVD pre-order rankings for today, and I've been wondering, how exactly do all these number correlate to each other? For example how can one BD release have higher points then another, but a lower ranking? What exactly do the points mean or stand for and how are they calculated? How do these numbers correlate to actual number of BD's/DVD's being ordered?
The best explanation you'll find is probably here in Section 4.

The short answer is that they don't actually know how many sales are occurring. They're just using the sales rankings on Amazon to estimate sales based on past trends. For example, if something is the top-selling DVD/BD on Amazon for a whole day, you know that's a whole lot of sales (because Amazon sells a whole lot of stuff). If something is only like the 1000th ranking... that's not so great. The points are an estimate of accumulated orders based on ranking over time. They use Amazon as representative of the larger market because it gives good data, even though obviously not everyone will buy their DVDs/BDs on Amazon, so there can be some cases where the Amazon estimates suggest one thing but actual sales are quite different because either more or less customers bought from Amazon vs. other stores in Japan.
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Old 2014-08-07, 14:28   Link #1065
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The points are an estimate of accumulated orders based on ranking over time.
Is it "1 point = 1 (presumed) sale" or is it more complicated than that? I get your other points, and they're well-stated and reflect the impression I've already had, but I've never quite understood how the points work exactly.
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Old 2014-08-07, 16:16   Link #1066
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The best explanation you'll find is probably here in Section 4.

The short answer is that they don't actually know how many sales are occurring. They're just using the sales rankings on Amazon to estimate sales based on past trends. For example, if something is the top-selling DVD/BD on Amazon for a whole day, you know that's a whole lot of sales (because Amazon sells a whole lot of stuff). If something is only like the 1000th ranking... that's not so great. The points are an estimate of accumulated orders based on ranking over time. They use Amazon as representative of the larger market because it gives good data, even though obviously not everyone will buy their DVDs/BDs on Amazon, so there can be some cases where the Amazon estimates suggest one thing but actual sales are quite different because either more or less customers bought from Amazon vs. other stores in Japan.
Thanks for the explanation, and link. There's a lot to take it, but it's interesting to read.
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Old 2014-08-07, 17:25   Link #1067
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Is it "1 point = 1 (presumed) sale" or is it more complicated than that? I get your other points, and they're well-stated and reflect the impression I've already had, but I've never quite understood how the points work exactly.
Yeah, rank over time gives points, and points are like estimated sales so far. They can also give an estimate of the final point tally, but this is extremely subject to swings and variation (since it can only assume that past performance will continue as-is until the end, which rarely happens). In the end, calling it "points" helps people remember that these are only predictive algorithms (based on one single store, even if it's a big one), and no actual sales are known until the Oricon releases numbers after the fact (and even then, Oricon doesn't catch absolutely everything either).
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