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Old 2004-02-02, 17:04   Link #41
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" Well, if the translator knows the kanji for a person's name (and s/he's lucky enough to own IME Pad for Windows XP), s/he can write the the name and search for it on the Internet for proper readings. Or visit the official Web site of the anime that s/he's translating for, cut-and-paste the name, and likewise do a search for the readings."

There are multiple proper readings for many names.

Seiyuu fangirls can do their own work, we have enough stuff to do.
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Old 2004-02-03, 12:59   Link #42
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I've seen threads like this before .... something recently suggesting everyone chop the op/ed before release to save like 20-30 megs/ep.... I replied a bit differently there than here but there's a lot of reasons, so here's some more.

As a general rule, I think that it's better to have more options than fewer.

With that in mind, by giving you the op/ed with the pretty karaoke's and translations and all that nifty jazz, not only do we get to put our names in it in places that it looks like it goes (and arguably teach some romanji and kanji, though you've already gotta have a base in it to learn anything from the anime opening songs IMO), we also give you the option of watching it or not.

If you don't wanna watch it, just skip ahead 1:30 from the start of the file. Many players support hotkeys to jump specific distances -- in one of the players I regularly use, "skip the opening" is "press the right arrow key 6 times".

On the other hand, if you do want to watch the opening, and we've chopped it off, we've denied you the ability to do as you please. So by merely offering the option, we don't dictate how you view it, but by denying the option we take away your choice.

<semi-relevant digression>When I was a much younger person, my mom used to take me and my brother to the grocery store on saturday afternoons. Why saturday afternoons, you ask? Because the grocery store we liked to shop at had free samples all over the store then. There were free samples of trail mix and sausage and cheese and crackers and meat and snack foods and you could make about a whole meal out of just walking around the store snagging samples. It was great fun for us, it kept us occupied while my mom got the groceries and kept us happy, and we liked it.

Now the thing about free samples is ... you don't have to take it. Sure, they're nice ameneties, but they're ameneties you can refuse. Think of our karaoke'ed translated nifty openings and ending songs.... you can skip them or you can watch them. We don't really care which you do, whether you eat the free pizza rolls or you decide not to. But we're not going to remove the booth just so you can get around the store easier.
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More than that though, it's just a completion thing. More than as a fansubber, as a person, as a creator of works, I want to create things that are complete. It's a matter of pride. I can say "I did a halfassed job" or I can say "look at this beautiful complete work that I did my best on." I can't take pride in a house that I built if the house has no rooms and is missing half the floor and a big patch out of the roof. I can't take pride in a research paper I write that has no data or relevant sources. I can't take pride in a program I write that spits out incorrect answers because I didn't take the time to debug it. You see the analogy?

I agree with you completely. Spoken very good. I sometimes don't watch, but sometime I love to sit through em cuase they're real cool.

Although I somewhat agree with the guy that said about the fancy karaoke thingy. Sometimes it's over used. But it doesn't bother me wether it has an effect or not. I like to keep my eyes on the animation(unless it's boring).
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Old 2004-02-03, 13:29   Link #43
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Seiyuu fangirls can do their own work, we have enough stuff to do.
Just because you're too busy to subtitle the credits doesn't mean it's not a respectable thing to do.
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Old 2004-02-03, 17:40   Link #44
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Credits for voice actors can be found at www.animenfo.com
If you're all that interested look it up there. ^_^
A much better source for seiyuu credit is Hitoshi Doi's Seiyuu Database

He is Japanese
He lives in Japan
He is obsessed with voice actors
He has been compiling this database for many, many years
His pages have 100 times more information than any other source in the net

Most seiyuu information in the the net is copied from Doi's database, anyway.
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Old 2004-02-03, 20:15   Link #45
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A much better source for seiyuu credit is Hitoshi Doi's Seiyuu Database

He is Japanese
He lives in Japan
He is obsessed with voice actors
He has been compiling this database for many, many years
His pages have 100 times more information than any other source in the net

Most seiyuu information in the the net is copied from Doi's database, anyway.
He's also a senior software engineer working at Hewlett Packard/Compaq Japan, and was one of the core programmers for the Altavista search engine when that was still owned by Digital Equipment Coporation.

The last time I know, he was working on a "Japanese centered search engine" called Mitaka at HP/Compaq Japan...but I haven't heard of any news of that search engine so long as google is taking the lead.
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Old 2004-02-03, 20:36   Link #46
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i dont get why the starting + ending songs must be included in [b]every[b] episode. i dont think it is nessesary because the majority of anime watchters skip it anyways (unless its the first episode). The starting and ending songs take up about 45mb of the dl, quite alot for people who need to conserve dl bandwidth.
so why?... xD..!
Ok this is just stupid in the first place...

Intros USUALLY take around 25MB and if the ending is slow (like most shows) I'd say 15-20MB. So I don't know where you get this 45MB bullsh*t.

Also why WOULDN'T you want the intro and ending in there!?!?
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Old 2004-02-03, 21:05   Link #47
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Ok this is just stupid in the first place...

Intros USUALLY take around 25MB and if the ending is slow (like most shows) I'd say 15-20MB. So I don't know where you get this 45MB bullsh*t.
25+(15-20)=40-45...

makes sense to me, according to your calculations.
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Old 2004-02-03, 21:46   Link #48
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I guess he thought the OP meant 45MB each.
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