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Old 2008-03-03, 05:32   Link #281
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1st off thanks for the head up.

Yeah, well I guess the euphoria of getting my hands on the latest chapter got me carried away... thus my err.

Than again Tabitha was in control in this latest issue. She guided the team on where and how to hit Agatha right after the point where Miria ask Galatea if she has anything else to add.

Aside from comparisons, it is nice to see the other members showing growth in their skills most importantly feeling comfortable with it especially shown in this battle.

As for Galatea leveling Agatha? Well words from her own mouth.. " I ran away from the organization, I am not the same as you (Miria). Please save this city for me.. Phantom Maria."

I presume when she say I am not the same as you, it could mean as I am not as strong as before. Thus she ask Miria to help her protect the city.

Than again I might have read the translation wrong. Oh well...
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Old 2008-03-03, 05:37   Link #282
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I still think Galatea would've levelled Agatha with the ground had the battle taken place outside the city where there were no civilians, and no Miata. She can power up faster than any warrior; that gives her tons of advantages if she's aiming for a quick victory.
I really doubt that. Galatea herself said that she stood no chance to do it solo "Naturally, you are too much for me to handle alone" and even with Miata, the freak, she said it would be 50/50 chance.
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Old 2008-03-03, 05:49   Link #283
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I really doubt that. Galatea herself said that she stood no chance to do it solo "Naturally, you are too much for me to handle alone" and even with Miata, the freak, she said it would be 50/50 chance.
Even if she muscled up a bit? I know she hates doing that and prefers to die.
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Old 2008-03-03, 05:52   Link #284
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Even if she muscled up a bit? I know she hates doing that and prefers to die.
Haha, no she doesn't prefer to die rather than muscling up
She did it against Duff only to buy Clare some time so if she could've killed Agatha with releasing yoki, I suppose she would have done it.
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Old 2008-03-03, 05:55   Link #285
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She may be vain before, but blinding herself to save a town? Sometimes, I wonder which Galatea we're talking about.
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Old 2008-03-03, 06:04   Link #286
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She may be vain before, but blinding herself to save a town? Sometimes, I wonder which Galatea we're talking about.
You are making it sound as if blinding herself is an issue. She got more sensitive to yoki plus, which is more importantly, she could regrow them any time. She blinded herself so she could blend in since her silver eyes would hinder that.

But I suppose you have a point. Why would she even bother to save the city? Oh well, next chapter would probably sort this out
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Old 2008-03-03, 06:43   Link #287
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Did she really do it on purpose?
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Old 2008-03-03, 06:54   Link #288
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Can she really regrow them? I know it's impossible to reatach limbs once the wound closes. Isn't it the same with regeneration?
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Old 2008-03-03, 07:03   Link #289
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But I suppose you have a point. Why would she even bother to save the city? Oh well, next chapter would probably sort this out
What about the sequence of events was like this:
  1. "It's a little late to say that, but you guys disgust me"
  2. deserting
  3. blinding herself - hiding silver eyes
  4. living in Rabona
  5. noticing Agatha, who lives there as well
  6. staying in Rabona

After living in the city for years, making friends with people, watching children grow, the question would rather be: why wouldn't she try to save them?

After that, seeing how her sensing ability overlaps with Tabatha's, seeing how she said she wasn't like the ghosts, seeing how I cannot see her as a follower nor as the ghosts' leader (can you?), I think she'll just keep staying in Rabona.

What I am waiting for is what Clarice and Miata will do. They cannot try to kill Galatea anymore, with humans plus ghosts against them, it's dubious whether they even still want to do it, but what will they do regarding the org?

Yagi can make them do truly anything at this point. Will Clarice/Miata acknowledge her debt but stay loyal to the org and warn them that they'll fight again, like Audrey? Will she stay loyal but refuse to fight any Claymore or ex-Claymore again? Will she just make up a story and have divided loyalties? Become a spy for the ghosts? Desert? Somehow, I think Miata will be the one who will refuse to fight, being a stubborn child and all, and that Clarice will truly go back to the org.

The org itself will then have to do something, but what? A group of renegade who can destroy an awakened 2 like it was nothing could wipe the floor with regular Claymores. Miata won't fight them, what's left powerful enough? Audrey is 3, Rachel 5, and they bloody suck, so that's down to Alicia... but using her makes the org vulnerable to the other two Abyssals, getting her wounded likely means Riful popping up like after Isley/luciela and destroying the survivor.

That would require the org to first find the ghosts, though, and it seemed only Miata could track or evaluate people without relying on yoki sensing.


On this subject, Miata says the Ghosts are all very strong, the same way she said she smelled a very strong Claymore in Rabona before entering. That may truly mean that every one of them is near Galatea's level, meaning in the same league as Audrey, the current #3 of the org, at least, and that two of them are even stronger, probably going up to awakened levels of strength, like a Raphaella, Teresa or a Priscilla (non-awakened), stronger than Irene....

Objectively, so, if the ghosts were still in the org, they would likely hold numbers three to nine. but their global strength looks still superior to that of a team made of Galatea, Ophelia, Raphaella, Miria, Eva, Flora and Jean. It truly sucks for anyone in their way, truly, if they are not AO.

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Can she really regrow them? I know it's impossible to reatach limbs once the wound closes. Isn't it the same with regeneration?
Yes, defensive claymores can regrow limbs without power loss. We saw Deneve and Yuma do it. Also, if Yuma is any indication, it is possible for a non-half-awakened claymore to regrow an arm in something like one day. Now that Galatea's cover is blown, she doesn't even have the problem of not wanting to use Yoki. I doubt she will be able to do it as fast as Deneve in the Slashers but that's still a possibility I guess, once she rests a bit.
The problem for Galatea right now, of course, is that she's run out of juice, and pushing her healing abilities too far now would make her awaken.
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Old 2008-03-03, 07:41   Link #290
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Great chapter^^ And even Miata #4 showed little fear to #6 & #47... Oh and I loved how helen used #9 Jean`s move on Agatha, or was that her own move? it looked like Jean`s move. And Clara did the windcutter wow XD
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Old 2008-03-03, 07:44   Link #291
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man now I am dying for 79, this is so painful >_<.

PS: yea I don't understand why would they knock Galatea out, shes barely alive as it is >_<
Probably you're right and it's a bit harsh but i think they have to made galatea stealthy as soon as possible and leave the playgrond very fast, so i would knock her out, grab her and run as hell. I mean there's no time for conversations like:"I want to stay in the city because i love all the people and children so much!"

If the mangaka thinks in logical terms riful has to appear with a high probability any minuit at rabona and that means trouble.

Riful knows about the ghost. She senses a strong AB fighting but she didn't sense an opponent. So she concludes that the ghosts are active. She has a grudge against clare for faking her so she decides to take revenge on the ghosts. We all know how fast riful can move and that she is good at sensing, better than isley who didn't sensed the power of priscilla.
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Old 2008-03-03, 07:59   Link #292
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Whew caught up. Well Agatha bites the dust this time though she was pretty much overwhelmed in terms of number of opponents and the power involved. But she's had plenty of time to go around killing soldiers and injuring Galatea and Miata so it was time for her to step off the stage.

Did enjoy the banter about Galatea's hair getting cut. Guess if your going to talk about accuracy at least keep Galatea's nice hair attached .

Nice ending there with casualties limited to the soldiers who got impaled and Agatha herself. At least Galatea is fine so wasn't a big need to get worried.
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Old 2008-03-03, 07:59   Link #293
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Riful knows about the ghost. She senses a strong AB fighting but she didn't sense an opponent.
Miata, Galatea and Clarice used Yoki. What Riful would have sensed, if she was in range, which isn't a given, would be Agatha releasing, three claymores going against her flaring their power, almost dying but managing to kill her with some lucky strikes. Kinda like the fight against Duff, had she not been there.

Regardless, if she was in range to sense, which, once again, would be an unlikely coincidence, considering neither the ghosts nor Galatea sense her and that she doesn't specialise in sensing (that's why she wants a yoki-sensing claymore), she would likely come anyway for the three claymores who defeated so strong an AB, exactly like she appeared for Audrey and Rachel, and those two were not even at Miata or Galatea's level.
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Old 2008-03-03, 08:04   Link #294
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well i see that i was right about the chop her hair off and she will be as good as dead part...haha.

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Well... her Yoki manipulation is quite a gimmick, not as powerful and useful than the A.B that Clare&co fought in the North. But honestly, I've never understood why people are so much in Galatea. I mean, she has good style, ever more with blind eyes and torn sister dress (too sexy ! yum !) but when it comes to fighting, she looks quite average. And now Tabitha (or Cynthia, don't remember who is who), has equivalent if not stronger yoki reading abilities.

She 'd better go on cosplaying in gentle sister taking care of cute children and let the fighting stuff to real badass asskickers like Miria (mini skirt dudes !! mini skirt !!! Omochikaaaaaaeeerrriiiiiiii !!! ).
well im getting suspicious. do you guys read claymore cause of how sexy they look like or what? haha.

I find it super amusing to see Clare and Galatea chatting as if Agatha wasn't there...haha.
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Old 2008-03-03, 08:16   Link #295
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Miata, Galatea and Clarice used Yoki. What Riful would have sensed, if she was in range, which isn't a given, would be Agatha releasing, three claymores going against her flaring their power, almost dying but managing to kill her with some lucky strikes. Kinda like the fight against Duff, had she not been there.

Regardless, if she was in range to sense, which, once again, would be an unlikely coincidence, considering neither the ghosts nor Galatea sense her and that she doesn't specialise in sensing (that's why she wants a yoki-sensing claymore), she would likely come anyway for the three claymores who defeated so strong an AB, exactly like she appeared for Audrey and Rachel, and those two were not even at Miata or Galatea's level.

Okay, okay thinking about it again my "riful theorie" isn't as probable as i thought. That the ghost would sense her is the best argument against it.
But at the end of the fight galatea, miata and clarice were down. Despite that agatha died a sudden and unforseen death without extraneous cause from rifuls view. And riful is not so easy to sense. She can surpress her energie to a normal degree as far as we know. Perhaps she can do more.
Riful could be good at sensing(->Priscilla). You conclude that she isn't specilialised because she wants galatea but i understood it the way that she is searching for a lot of claymores who are able to manipulate yoma enerie - she needs as many as she can get. Perhaps it is something about the soul link from beth and alicia.
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Miria and Galatea never met in the manga - so how exactly does Galatea recognize her by her voice? Galatea never even said full out that she was spying on them in the Slashers Arc (and the "memorize their Youki" statement by Ermita would lead you to think that the two never met before either).
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Sigh.. Jean and Flora and Miria never met in manga either, but they recognized each other back in Pieta.
Well im guessing she knows by a bit of gossip here and there...like how you know people from another class at school even though you aren't friends with them. And moreover, they're all high-ranked Claymores...
Also, perhaps, just maybe, they might have come from the same new Claymore "batch", and have seen each other then, even if they don't know each other...

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Okay, okay thinking about it again my "riful theorie" isn't as probable as i thought. That the ghost would sense her is the best argument against it.
But at the end of the fight galatea, miata and clarice were down. Despite that agatha died a sudden and unforseen death without extraneous cause from rifuls view. And riful is not so easy to sense. She can surpress her energie to a normal degree as far as we know. Perhaps she can do more.
Riful could be good at sensing(->Priscilla). You conclude that she isn't specilialised because she wants galatea but i understood it the way that she is searching for a lot of claymores who are able to manipulate yoma enerie - she needs as many as she can get. Perhaps it is something about the soul link from beth and alicia.
Well i highly doubt they would miss Riful cause there's currently 2 powerful yoma sensors in Rabona...haha. And yeah, maybe with yoma manipulating Claymores on her side, she might be able to cut Alicia and Beth's soul link, if not screw it up and make them haywire...Aw cool.
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Old 2008-03-03, 08:28   Link #297
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Did she really do it on purpose?
Yes. It says that she did it to herself in one of the side notes on the chapter right after we see Galatea blind for the first time. Not all scanlators of the chapters translate those notes though, as usually they are nothing but a mindless recap of earlier episodes.

Makes sense if you think about it - how else would you hide Silver eyes over a long period without suspicion?
And as Rubal said, even Rafaela - an offensive type - should be able to regrow her eyes (and didn't only to a desire to supress her youki). So it'd be a piece of cake for a defensive type like Galatea.

The only question that remains in my mind is whether Galatea has used enough youki in the fight to blow her cover. Irene was doing full youki releases in her arm for days to blow her cover. If Galatea hasn't blown it yet, it leaves her an unpleasant choice - regrow arm (and possibly eyes) and start life on the run, or live in Rabona without it (assuming it's too late to find and re-attach her arm of course).
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Old 2008-03-03, 08:32   Link #298
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rofl, talk about overpower...
this AB was just a canopener tomatopunch to show how powerfull the 7 are compared to the common claymore / AB. meh it s always fun to see some total onesided asswooping everyonce in a while. hope it doesnt becomes the norm.
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The only question that remains in my mind is whether Galatea has used enough youki in the fight to blow her cover. Irene was doing full youki releases in her arm for days to blow her cover. If Galatea hasn't blown it yet, it leaves her an unpleasant choice - regrow arm (and possibly eyes) and start life on the run, or live in Rabona without it (assuming it's too late to find and re-attach her arm of course).
Well Galatea has already blown her cover, as far as we know Clarice and Miata are the only ones sent to kill her. Unless there is another spy, and i doubt Galatea would miss that and not mention to them that they have someone tailing them. Cause Galatea can even sense Clarice and Miata when they first enter the city, why not someone else who is also using yoki supressants?
Anyway, Galatea doesn't need her old arm to reattach, she simply grows a new one, with regards to your "assuming it's too late to find and re-attach her arm of course"
For Irene's case, Rafaela was long chasing her, so its rather inevitable. Aw, i did like Irene...
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well im getting suspicious. do you guys read claymore cause of how sexy they look like or what? haha.
maybe a little bit
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