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Old 2009-10-06, 23:42   Link #20301
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First of all, it should be impossible to connect to another universe through the internet. I'm sure we would have known by now if we could.

More likely, Yuuki turned himself into an interuniversal router/modem leaving the PC as an interface for the team to use.
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Old 2009-10-06, 23:44   Link #20302
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Widescreen shouldn't be a problem. I was assuming it was pretty advanced. But who knows. Kaisos assumes it is seting in 2007 and Kyon/ko are not savy enough to know by look which one is the mos advanced (exept that LCD > CRT).
I assume 2003-04, when the novels were first written, actually.

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I assumed he was using himself as a 'computer'. And the router was for the school lan right? There are probably more (crapy) computers there, and all needs internet. The computer being mostly to show the image... But, now I think on it, then to PC itself shouldn't be necessery. Just the monitor (also pluged in Yuuki's veins... iiierk)
Most of the school computers would run Windows 2000, given that the Computer Club's "newest model" ran XP.

The reason Nagato needs the entire setup is mostly because he needs something with a screen and an internet connection, and it's easier for him to physically connect with that particular type of cable.

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Umm... I'm not sure if that would work via a standard router. Wouldn't it make more sense with a Yuuki--->Computer--->Router--->Wall configuration? Also, I've never seen a router that accepts RJ-25 cable, though that doesn't mean they aren't out there...
What, a cable like this? That's what my router uses.

Maybe we're talking about different kinds of routers, or something.

...Hmm. Maybe I'll just change it to them having him plugged into the PC itself... it'd make more sense.

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Wasn't he almost completely broken down before due to complete lack of contact with the... whatever it's called? He may need the cable to hack into it while being able to maintain his other programs.
Exactly. He's gotten a little more control at this point, but he CANNOT manipulate data outside of his own body, which is why he has to use a physical connection to hack through universes.

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First of all, it should be impossible to connect to another universe through the internet. I'm sure we would have known by now if we could.
Humanoid interfaces, lol. And there's a little more to it than that, but...
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Old 2009-10-06, 23:51   Link #20303
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I assume 2003-04, when the novels were first written, actually.
Oh, wait, so it was Danchou who said 2007. Well, the Win 95 don't seen so absurde anymore.

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Most of the school computers would run Windows 2000, given that the Computer Club's "newest model" ran XP.
I have to say that 'ran XP' is anime only. I always tought it was 2010, because of the 07/07/07 thing ("lucky date" and all).[/QUOTE]
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Old 2009-10-06, 23:57   Link #20304
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RJ-25 is a phone wire type with six pins (from the wall to the modem). Most modern computers use Cat5 or Cat6 which is the 8-pin version used between the modem and the router/computer.
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Old 2009-10-06, 23:58   Link #20305
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RJ-25 is a phone wire type with six pins (from the wall to the modem). Most modern computers use Cat5 or Cat6 which is the 8-pin version used between the modem and the router/computer.
The crossover cable plugged into Yuuki would be the 8-pin version, then.
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Old 2009-10-07, 00:18   Link #20306
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Also, October 5th? That lines up with Umineko suspiciously well.
Damn... I wish I had a birthday associated with something awesome... all mine really associates me with is the color green...

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I always tought it was 2010, because of the 07/07/07 thing ("lucky date" and all).
Actually...

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The text rather clearly states that he didn't confirm the year until after the "lucky" comment. Besides, I highly doubt the newspaper would abbreviate the year like that.
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... well at least it's consistent...
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Old 2009-10-07, 00:19   Link #20307
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More likely, Yuuki turned himself into an interuniversal router/modem leaving the PC as an interface for the team to use.
Let's just go with something like this. Long winded explanations are bleh.
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Old 2009-10-07, 00:20   Link #20308
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But they fit the Nagatos so well!
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... well at least it's consistent...
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Not like he has the processing power or time to explain anything at the moment.
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Old 2009-10-07, 00:28   Link #20310
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The crossover cable plugged into Yuuki would be the 8-pin version, then.
That would make it RJ-45, EVERY router has RJ-45.

Also, isn't the 6-pin phone wire called RJ-11?
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Old 2009-10-07, 00:43   Link #20311
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The text rather clearly states that he didn't confirm the year until after the "lucky" comment. Besides, I highly doubt the newspaper would abbreviate the year like that.
Oh, true. Sad. Anyway, the video with the promotion for BLR also hadn't the date as 07/07/07? It could be the video was realesed that year, tough. But the symbolism is just more cool that way.

Oh, well, It can be any year actually. Kaisos guess is the one that make more sense, tough.
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Old 2009-10-07, 01:00   Link #20312
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RJ-25 is a phone wire type with six pins (from the wall to the modem). Most modern computers use Cat5 or Cat6 which is the 8-pin version used between the modem and the router/computer.
Exactly. Of course, this leads to the other problem...

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That would make it RJ-45, EVERY router has RJ-45.
... Wherein dial-up modems don't use Cat5e or 6e, which makes it impossible for them to interface with every router I've ever seen. In fact, I've never come across a dial-up modem that wasn't an internal computer component that the phone line plugged directly into (with no router interfacing at all).

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Also, isn't the 6-pin phone wire called RJ-11?
There actually seem to be a couple of varieties of 6-pin... I've come across RJ-25 a lot before, so I assumed that was the most common one. Wikipedia seems to agree with you that most phone cables are RJ-11s, though.
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Old 2009-10-07, 02:19   Link #20313
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Those with access to Project Crossroads might want to check out what I just posted there.

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... Wherein dial-up modems don't use Cat5e or 6e, which makes it impossible for them to interface with every router I've ever seen. In fact, I've never come across a dial-up modem that wasn't an internal computer component that the phone line plugged directly into (with no router interfacing at all).
Then edit that in for me. What else do I not pay you for?
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Old 2009-10-07, 04:17   Link #20314
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Here are a few roughs that will probably eventually turn into sprites. I know there are a few glaring problems here and there, but I'd still like your feedback. Thanks.

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Old 2009-10-07, 04:44   Link #20315
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Here are a few roughs that will probably eventually turn into sprites. I know there are a few glaring problems here and there, but I'd still like your feedback. Thanks.

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I fail to seen any 'glaring problem' here. Except, maybe, Kyonko don't seen to be using socks. They are seen awesome to me. I am not an expert, tough.

Hmmm, about something you said earlier on this thread (like, 70 pages ago). I could see the similaritys in the haird of each character with their conterpart. However, curiously, their face don't mach. Insted, Kyonko's face is more round, just like Haruhi's and Haruki's is more long, simmilar to Kyon's... Was it on purpose?
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Old 2009-10-07, 05:18   Link #20316
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Insted, Kyonko's face is more round, just like Haruhi's and Haruki's is more long, simmilar to Kyon's... Was it on purpose?
Completely intentional. The idea is that they're not exactly just genderbent versions of the other... there's some of Kyon/Kyonko in Haruhi/Haruki, and vice versa.
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I may or may not see a problem with Kyonko's hair... it looks as though her bangs are sticking up, but I could just be seeing things.

... bah, stupid Cat...
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... well at least it's consistent...
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Old 2009-10-07, 05:32   Link #20318
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Completely intentional. The idea is that they're not exactly just genderbent versions of the other... there's some of Kyon/Kyonko in Haruhi/Haruki, and vice versa.
Heh, I tought it wa something like that. So Haruki is a taller Kyon with Haruhi's hair (but shorter) and eyebrows and Kyonko is a shorter Haruhi with Kyo's hair (but longer) and eyebrows?

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... bah, stupid Cat...
...Cat? This was to me?
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Old 2009-10-07, 05:36   Link #20319
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Heh, I tought it wa something like that. So Haruki is a taller Kyon with Haruhi's hair (but shorter) and eyebrows and Kyonko is a shorter Haruhi with Kyo's hair (but longer) and eyebrows?
I meant personality-wise too...
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I meant personality-wise too...
Ah, that Kyon already proove in the End of Endless Eight.
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