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Old 2009-10-28, 13:12   Link #20861
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So you ascribe to the theory that Mikuru actually has character depth hidden behind her facade of uselessness? Interesting...
This is the sort of thing I have to do, given the TT route would suck otherwise.

I've always imagined Mikuru secretly being just a little bit like Shuffle's Kaede. Just a little bit.

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Wait! Now this confuses me. I, by reading you Mitsuuru was under the impression it was quite the oposite, Mikuru being naturaly moe for Kyon while Mitsuuru tryes (and fails) to show of a bit. Also, I understood Mitsuuru confrontional personality as being a man who has the same personality as Mikuru but finds it ridiculous and trys (and fails) to change, or, at last appear differently. So, I understood Mikuru was the most natural of both. Not that he fakes his confrontatinal-ness, but is just his personality changes more then Mikuru's due to the envirronment.
Mikuru would stand up for herself a lot more if she wasn't playing a role. It's a theory a lot of the fandom has that she's just faking a lot of her moe-ness, and it's something I ascribe to.

In reality, she's probably a lot like Kaede, as above, or Sakura Matou.
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Old 2009-10-28, 15:55   Link #20862
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Mikuru would stand up for herself a lot more if she wasn't playing a role. It's a theory a lot of the fandom has that she's just faking a lot of her moe-ness, and it's something I ascribe to.

In reality, she's probably a lot like Kaede, as above, or Sakura Matou.
I don't know... I remember Itsuki saying (in Chamed) he envys her because she do not acts before Haruhi... But this was Itsuki, so is kinda hard to tell...

Hmmm, if I understood well, you are saying you believe Mikuru partially like she appears to be but also play more her "moe" side? I mean, she is a coward useless girl, but exagerate a bit for Kyon.

(Interestingly, this you make both Itsuki's contradictory statement true, when he said she is faking, in Sighs and when he said he acts naturally with Haruhi (she indeed fake, but fo Kyon, not Haruhi)
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Old 2009-10-28, 23:55   Link #20863
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In reality, she's probably a lot like Kaede, as above, or Sakura Matou.
Nah, I think she would be just like this...

A bit of steel underneath that velvet glove...
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Old 2009-10-29, 11:28   Link #20864
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STOP LOOKING AT ME LIKE THAT, I DON'T NEED TO GO TO CLASS.

Spoiler for September the Fifth, Day 4, Interlude 07: Irritation:
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Old 2009-10-29, 11:34   Link #20865
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Spoiler for September the Fifth, Day 4: My Room- Headphones:
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Old 2009-10-30, 17:40   Link #20866
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I don't know... I remember Itsuki saying (in Chamed) he envys her because she do not acts before Haruhi... But this was Itsuki, so is kinda hard to tell...

Hmmm, if I understood well, you are saying you believe Mikuru partially like she appears to be but also play more her "moe" side? I mean, she is a coward useless girl, but exagerate a bit for Kyon.

(Interestingly, this you make both Itsuki's contradictory statement true, when he said she is faking, in Sighs and when he said he acts naturally with Haruhi (she indeed fake, but fo Kyon, not Haruhi)
So the amount of acting Mikuru does is dependent upon the situation.
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Old 2009-10-31, 18:34   Link #20867
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The hell?! I'm gone for a couple days and not even an entire page was added? This project really has slowed down a lot.

Um... relevance... relevance...

Right. Mikuru can't be acting. Not a lot of people can pull off "pathetic" on a daily basis without actually being pathetic, and I have severe doubts she'd be one of them.
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... well at least it's consistent...
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Old 2009-10-31, 18:47   Link #20868
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Yeah it slowed down a bit or it's because everyone's busy XD

Poor Haruki... now he's begging for everyone to come back XD
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Old 2009-10-31, 22:00   Link #20869
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Shifting the topic, I have a question about the Day 5 Outline; I'm probably just misunderstanding something, so forgive me if I'm asking a stupid question:

Spoiler for Day 5 Outline:


Does the Thief=True condition apply to the third choice as well, or is the RoutesClear >=5 condition the only one that matters? I'm asking this because, from what I can tell from the outlines and flowcharts, getting all 8 Hijack triggers, necessary for getting Rejected=True, bars you from getting Thief=True. Assuming Thief=True is also required for the third dialogue option, then this means that Final Route is inaccessable.

I hope that makes sense. As I said I probably just missed something in the outlines/flowcharts/writeups. If so, sorry.

Also, though I've been a long time lurker, this is my first actual post here! I hope to join the madness that is seitenkan .
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Old 2009-10-31, 23:24   Link #20870
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As the official greeter seems to be MIA:

"WELCOME, YOU WILL SERVE KYONKO WELL"

And to join the madness, all you have to do is to contribute to one of the eventual off-topics that seem to never go away!
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Old 2009-10-31, 23:44   Link #20871
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I believe we should call this thread "The Madness of the Followers of Kyonko."

why are people talking about Mikuru here, I'm lost
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Old 2009-11-01, 00:10   Link #20872
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Shifting the topic, I have a question about the Day 5 Outline; I'm probably just misunderstanding something, so forgive me if I'm asking a stupid question:

Spoiler for Day 5 Outline:


Does the Thief=True condition apply to the third choice as well, or is the RoutesClear >=5 condition the only one that matters? I'm asking this because, from what I can tell from the outlines and flowcharts, getting all 8 Hijack triggers, necessary for getting Rejected=True, bars you from getting Thief=True. Assuming Thief=True is also required for the third dialogue option, then this means that Final Route is inaccessable.

I hope that makes sense. As I said I probably just missed something in the outlines/flowcharts/writeups. If so, sorry.

Also, though I've been a long time lurker, this is my first actual post here! I hope to join the madness that is seitenkan .
I believe the Thief=True does apply. It wouln't make sense if doesn't. So, I believe the correct would be:
Spoiler for Day 5 Outline:

(the code isn't, actually, like that. But that don't matter.)

Oh, yeah, be welcome. The madness might be frigthing at first, but it pass as soon yu become mad as well.

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I believe we should call this thread "The Madness of the Followers of Kyonko."

why are people talking about Mikuru here, I'm lost
I agree about that name, but who is talking about Mikuru?

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Oh, wait, I was one of the ones who was talking about Mikuru. That is why you shouldn't post while sleepy. I was actually talking about Mitsuuru. Talking about Mikuru is to help to understand MikuruMitsuuru.

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Old 2009-11-01, 00:37   Link #20873
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Talking about Mikuru is to help to understand Mitsuuru.
I believe you actually wanted to say that...
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Old 2009-11-01, 01:17   Link #20874
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I believe you actually wanted to say that...
Why? Isn't true talking about Mikuru helps to understand herself? Can't you believe I totally write it in purpose and didn't made up an explanation latter?

Well, actually not, obviously. Yeah, it was indeed what I wanted to say. That is why you shouldn't post too late at night. (it worth saying it is past 4am here where I live)
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Old 2009-11-01, 02:33   Link #20875
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"Know yourself, know your animus and you hold the key to victory."

... Okay, so I changed it. Bite me.
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... well at least it's consistent...
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Old 2009-11-01, 02:45   Link #20876
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"Know yourself, know your animus and you hold the key to victory."

... Okay, so I changed it. Bite me.
OMNOMNOMNOMNOM

Actually counterparts have things that are the same and things that are completely different so it's nice to do a comparison.
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Old 2009-11-01, 02:51   Link #20877
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I said BITE, not EAT!
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... well at least it's consistent...
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Old 2009-11-01, 04:08   Link #20878
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Does the Thief=True condition apply to the third choice as well, or is the RoutesClear >=5 condition the only one that matters? I'm asking this because, from what I can tell from the outlines and flowcharts, getting all 8 Hijack triggers, necessary for getting Rejected=True, bars you from getting Thief=True. Assuming Thief=True is also required for the third dialogue option, then this means that Final Route is inaccessable.
Ah, I knew I missed something... You're perfectly right.

I'll just remove Thief being a prereq for Final then... Final isn't even a route in the same way the others are, so it's easy...

Actually I should change that from "FinalRoute=True" to "FinalRoute=Unlocked"...
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Old 2009-11-01, 05:20   Link #20879
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You are working with a premade engine, right?

That lets you do this easily right?

*imagines coding from scratch*

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Old 2009-11-01, 05:25   Link #20880
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Ah, I knew I missed something... You're perfectly right.

I'll just remove Thief being a prereq for Final then... Final isn't even a route in the same way the others are, so it's easy...

Actually I should change that from "FinalRoute=True" to "FinalRoute=Unlocked"...
That makes no sense in terms of code, actually. We'd probably just rename the variable to "FinalRouteUnlocked=True" instead.

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You are working with a premade engine, right?

That lets you do this easily right?

*imagines coding from scratch*

@_@
But we are.
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