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Old 2010-01-23, 02:31   Link #22021
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If it weren't for the fact that there aren't any artists attached to this project that are willing to do that sort of content, it probably would be.
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Old 2010-01-23, 04:14   Link #22022
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And rightfully so.

Since this IS a step up from doujinshi and the like.

And VN's are sposed to have story appeal, not sex appeal.
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Old 2010-01-23, 04:48   Link #22023
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And rightfully so.

Since this IS a step up from doujinshi and the like.

And VN's are sposed to have story appeal, not sex appeal.
Who says it can't have both?
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Old 2010-01-23, 04:57   Link #22024
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Yeah I know it can have both, but just depending. *shrug* I'd rather plot than h.
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Well, some of the listed examples have very little H compared to plot. In fact, you can usually remove all the H-scenes and still keep a perfectly good plot, that's why those have all-age verions.
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Old 2010-01-23, 07:07   Link #22026
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I make no apologies for the quality, this scene was HARD to produce.

Spoiler for September the Sixth, Day 5, Kyonko: Streets of Nishinomiya- Hobo Girl:
Kyonko have just won +20 deredere points.

Anyway, that scene was amazing. Kyonko have just been assalted by a guy but don't think twice in accepting sleeping on his house. It make sense in the context, but it is still funny anyway.

But that headphones are really evil huh? I didn't get one thing, tough, was Kyon's leg numb because the headphones or because Kyonko beating he so many times? Also, intersting how this time the headphones did not come back. Speaking on that, if you just reject Kyon-chan, of don't having the Thief flag, shouldn't have an extra scene with the Headphones backing? And a new variable, since Kyonko would notice it have vanished?

Speaking on that Thief variable, it will be painfull have coming this far and ending up empty handed.

Now, hidding a girl on his roon? Kyon should think in how impractical this is. What will she does when someone come in? Hide in the closet? And about the bathroom? There isn't any on his room and it is dangerous getting out without the risk of Imouto-chan discovering (she is the main poblem, after all). At last food isn't a problem, as they can eat out. And Kyonko will probably also be outmost of the day so there is no danger of she being discovered without Kyon to backup.

By the way, what exactly was that Protection Against Theft? I couldn't understand. And what are these prayer slip? Google didn't hepled me with this one.

Also, Kaisos, aswer my questions, danmit! Should or shouldn't I archive this post? There are more of these? And how should I list it?

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I'm sure he'll be safe.

Probably.
What? In situations like that is just a matter of time to Haruhi discover. Hadn't you read any romance comedy? If the main girl can misunderstand something and be jelous, she will missunderstand something and be jelous.

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Wasn't there a choice to send her to stay at Yuki's apartment on the true route or something?
Only if you have enough flags. And these flags are only avaiable if you have beat the game enough times. Kaisos is probably hidding the scene (if he had write it up already, which is improbable, that is it).

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Now if I remember correctly, Imouto always wakes Kyon up everyday since he likes to sleep as late as possible. Therefore, to avoid suspicion, Kyon must do the unthinkable, wake up early!
Lol, that is true. At last I guess he can just lock the door. Assuming his door has a lock, that is it. It is that common on Japan?

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Now this opens a whole other thing. What about the sleeping arrangements? Who gets the bed? Well since it's technically both of theirs bed they're not going to back down over who gets the floor. If the Kyons have one thing they're passionate about, it's sleep. Therefore, the obvious solution is to share the bed.
See, many, many problems hidding people on a room. Anyway, it is a japanese house, even if Kyon sleep on a bed, I guess there is a futon lieing around somewhere? It might be a problem getting it without his mother, or his sister, noticing, but I guess they could just wait for then to sleep.

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Male Kyon is also a sucker for cute girls, and tries to be chivalrous as long as he can be lazy about it.
This is an awesome description of Kyon chivalry.

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Well, some of the listed examples have very little H compared to plot. In fact, you can usually remove all the H-scenes and still keep a perfectly good plot, that's why those have all-age verions.
And anime adaptions. Sometime Most of times you can't even tell it was originally an H game. The porn is mostly there just to sell.

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Old 2010-01-23, 07:18   Link #22027
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By the way, what exactly was that Protection Against Theft? I couldn't understand. And what are these prayer slip? Google didn't hepled me with this one.
You know those small rectangular pieces of paper Japanese people put up to ward against demons or such? Those things. (Sorry, but I don't have the time to screenshot one out of an anime right now.)
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Old 2010-01-23, 07:35   Link #22028
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You know those small rectangular pieces of paper Japanese people put up to ward against demons or such? Those things. (Sorry, but I don't have the time to screenshot one out of an anime right now.)
Oh, these things. Yeah, I know what it is, thanks. I believe the japanese name is 'ofuda' right (or is 'ofuda' more specific?). Anyway, I read the term 'talisman' or even 'charm' more often so I found 'prayer slip' weird. I guess it is not wrong, tough.
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Old 2010-01-23, 08:41   Link #22029
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Anyway, that scene was amazing. Kyonko have just been assalted by a guy but don't think twice in accepting sleeping on his house. It make sense in the context, but it is still funny anyway.
Context is all, remember?

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Only if you have enough flags. And these flags are only avaiable if you have beat the game enough times. Kaisos is probably hidding the scene (if he had write it up already, which is improbable, that is it).
I think he said on somewhere sometime he wrote it...or did he? I must be hallucinating.

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This is an awesome description of Kyon chivalry.
Really minor nitpicking.
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Yeah I know it can have both, but just depending. *shrug* I'd rather plot than h.
Agreed!

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I'm sure he'll be safe.

Probably.
Kyon: "And Haruhi destroyed the world." THE END.
Tiger Dojo time!
"You screwed up so badly I can't even comment on it!" lol
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Pretty sure that comes later. Kyon's still calling her "Girl A," after all.



Solution is simple: Kyonko sleeps in the closet. Hey, it worked for Rukia.
C'mon, this is Kyonko we're talking about! I'd gladly sleep in the closet for her.
Imouto:"Eh? Where'd Kyon-kun go?"

Sorry if I put the quote posts in the wrong order.
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Old 2010-01-23, 10:10   Link #22030
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Kyon: "And Haruhi destroyed the world." THE END.
Tiger Dojo time!
"You screwed up so badly I can't even comment on it!" lol
This should be with the Tsuruyas laughing you square in the face. (Are there gonna be sprites like that?)

Here's an idea for the Tiger Dojo, occasionally different characters based on how much you f***ed up.
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Old 2010-01-23, 10:28   Link #22031
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Yeah I know it can have both, but just depending. *shrug* I'd rather plot than h.
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Well, some of the listed examples have very little H compared to plot. In fact, you can usually remove all the H-scenes and still keep a perfectly good plot, that's why those have all-age verions.
True, true. Sometimes even implying something H-related has happened will be sufficiently enough to advance the plot, making the concept stronger. Worldruined recently posted the cover of a Disapperance Yuki x Kyon doujinshi that's a good example. I officially hate Fan-fic Kyon everywhere. Officially.

Back on topic, I love how Kyonko realized that Kyon had that 'look' on his face while she was hugging him... Probably the same look she has while looking at Mitsuuru in the clubroom
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Old 2010-01-23, 10:46   Link #22032
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I officially hate Fan-fic Kyon everywhere. Officially.
Err... wow, have you read Meet the Suzumiyas yet? It's practically no different from the original novels.

Err... someone get the thread back on its tracks before it's too late.
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What? In situations like that is just a matter of time to Haruhi discover. Hadn't you read any romance comedy? If the main girl can misunderstand something and be jelous, she will missunderstand something and be jelous.
Except, according to Kaisos...
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Although the thought of making out with a gender-bent version of yourself is a bit, y'know, mind-boggling
She's the main heroine... they're going to end up doing a lot more than kissing, believe me.
Haruhi's not the main girl here.
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Old 2010-01-23, 11:56   Link #22034
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But that headphones are really evil huh? I didn't get one thing, tough, was Kyon's leg numb because the headphones or because Kyonko beating he so many times?
I would assume because Kyonko was kicking him. Didn't she kick his shin quite hard multiple times, or at least threaten to?

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Also, intersting how this time the headphones did not come back.
Yet.

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By the way, what exactly was that Protection Against Theft? I couldn't understand. And what are these prayer slip? Google didn't hepled me with this one.
Typically prayer slips are used by monks and miko to ward against evil. In this case, they would likely have been made by Yuuki or Itsuko's organization, and thus likely make things invisible to those who it doesn't belong to. Since Kyon = Kyonko, he'd be able to see them still.

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Lol, that is true. At last I guess he can just lock the door. Assuming his door has a lock, that is it. It is that common on Japan?
If he could do that, wouldn't he have done so long ago?
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Context is all, remember?
Not when we are talking about jokes

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Really minor nitpicking.
Fixxed. Thanks.

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I officially hate Fan-fic Kyon everywhere. Officially.
Really? I haven't read many Haruhi Fan-Fic, but I beleive Kaisos' Kyon is pretty good.

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Except, according to Kaisos...Haruhi's not the main girl here.
Point.

How about that then: If something can happen to disturb the main girl's and the hero's romance, this will happen. It is still true.

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I would assume because Kyonko was kicking him. Didn't she kick his shin quite hard multiple times, or at least threaten to?
Not to mention the kick on his groin. One would lose the movment of his legs just by taht.

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Yet.
Even still. Usually they come back before Kyon arrive home. And this time he arrives latter then he usually does.

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Typically prayer slips are used by monks and miko to ward against evil. In this case, they would likely have been made by Yuuki or Itsuko's organization, and thus likely make things invisible to those who it doesn't belong to. Since Kyon = Kyonko, he'd be able to see them still.
Hmmm, Yuuki ca't use his 'magic' as he is keeping low profile to avoid Yuki's IDE. And The Organization, as far I know, can't use magic. At most these things would sound an alarm

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If he could do that, wouldn't he have done so long ago?
Why would him? Even if I could lock my door, I wouldn't just to prevent my young brother to come in, no matter how much annoying he is sometimes. This is kinda jerkass, in my opinion. And His sister is usually being nice to wake him up.
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Even still. Usually they come back before Kyon arrive home. And this time he arrives latter then he usually does.
They may already be in his room, though. The scene stopped before they actually went into the house, and they always appeared on his bed after being taken away.
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They may already be in his room, though. The scene stopped before they actually went into the house, and they always appeared on his bed after being taken away.
Ah, true. My mistake. Kaisos like to end up the scene that follows the Flashes in Space with the headphones, so I just assumed they weren't there. However, this is usually because that scene is the last one of given girl. Since Kyonko have more scens he is probably doing something different.
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Would be fun to see what'd happen if they showed up with Kyonko in the room...
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Old 2010-01-23, 15:03   Link #22039
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Now this opens a whole other thing. What about the sleeping arrangements? Who gets the bed? Well since it's technically both of theirs bed they're not going to back down over who gets the floor. If the Kyons have one thing they're passionate about, it's sleep. Therefore, the obvious solution is to share the bed.
That's what the next scene is about.

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But that headphones are really evil huh? I didn't get one thing, tough, was Kyon's leg numb because the headphones or because Kyonko beating he so many times?
Both. Kyonko was, however, continuing to kick him even after he died.

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Also, intersting how this time the headphones did not come back. Speaking on that, if you just reject Kyon-chan, of don't having the Thief flag, shouldn't have an extra scene with the Headphones backing? And a new variable, since Kyonko would notice it have vanished?
The headphones don't come back in CoOp or True, but there will be an extra scene if you didn't get a route immediately.

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Speaking on that Thief variable, it will be painfull have coming this far and ending up empty handed.
Difficulty curve.

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By the way, what exactly was that Protection Against Theft? I couldn't understand. And what are these prayer slip? Google didn't hepled me with this one.
They're ofuda, but "charm" or "talisman" implies, to me, the sort you'd carry around as, well, a charm. This is the larger version, the sort you stick on shrines to purify them. Okami, (which is an excellent game that I recommend, by the way) used the term "prayer slips" for them (although they were used to throw at ghosts to destroy them rather than to seal things) so I decided to use that translation.

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Also, Kaisos, aswer my questions, danmit! Should or shouldn't I archive this post? There are more of these? And how should I list it?
There's a bunch of these, yeah. Just do a search for "Director".

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What? In situations like that is just a matter of time to Haruhi discover. Hadn't you read any romance comedy? If the main girl can misunderstand something and be jelous, she will missunderstand something and be jelous.
Ironically, that's more the plot of True than it is of CoOp.

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Lol, that is true. At last I guess he can just lock the door. Assuming his door has a lock, that is it. It is that common on Japan?
Kyon's door doesn't have a lock.

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Context is all, remember?
That's actually a quote from the Handmaid's Tale, but yeah, it definitely applies to this game.

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Back on topic, I love how Kyonko realized that Kyon had that 'look' on his face while she was hugging him... Probably the same look she has while looking at Nagato in the clubroom
Fixed for you.

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Typically prayer slips are used by monks and miko to ward against evil. In this case, they would likely have been made by Yuuki or Itsuko's organization, and thus likely make things invisible to those who it doesn't belong to. Since Kyon = Kyonko, he'd be able to see them still.
That's not how they work, though it's a good theory. They actually "bind" objects that they're attached to, making it very difficult to move them for the people who didn't place the slips to begin with

They may also have other, more interesting abilities. Yuuki didn't really explain when he made them.
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Both. Kyonko was, however, continuing to kick him even after he died.
I guess I can't blame her.

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Difficulty curve.
I know, I still pitty who get taht far and don't get nothing. Btw, there are going to be, like, 4 'dojos' for the wholle first week right? It will be hard to write then to help you to get that many different scenes. (and kyonko's route is pretty hard, as it implies you have to be a jerck with her at first and just latter be nice).

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They're ofuda, but "charm" or "talisman" implies, to me, the sort you'd carry around as, well, a charm. This is the larger version, the sort you stick on shrines to purify them. Okami, (which is an excellent game that I recommend, by the way) used the term "prayer slips" for them (although they were used to throw at ghosts to destroy them rather than to seal things) so I decided to use that translation.
I see. This term feel kinda weird to me, but you have a point. But I tought a talisman also could be something not really portatle, so I think it is also an apropriate translation for ofuda.

Btw, Japan has also 'omamori', an object that is, indeed, more like a charm.

Oh, yeah Okami is awesome. I 'have' this game as well, for Wii. I am in the beggining, tough.

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There's a bunch of these, yeah. Just do a search for "Director".
Ok then.

PP: By 'a bunch' you mean 'just two'? Because it is all I found. There was only 3 pages with posts with 'Director" so I could look all of then, and only two have relevant content.

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That's not how they work, though it's a good theory. They actually "bind" objects that they're attached to, making it very difficult to move them for the people who didn't place the slips to begin with

They may also have other, more interesting abilities. Yuuki didn't really explain when he made them.
So it was Yuuki who made then? How haven't Yuki noticed it? I guess he could have done that while they were moving, so Yuki just couldn't reach then on time.

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