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Old 2008-03-15, 21:10   Link #2301
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I think it fits a scene from Detective Haruhi.
You just lit a lightbulb in my head. What would a female Archer look like?


Anyways, @Jintor I agree. Besides, I kind of feel that "fun" is more maculine than "passion" to begin with.
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Old 2008-03-15, 21:15   Link #2302
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You just lit a lightbulb in my head. What would a female Archer look like?
...Illya the Ko-Archer?

...but thinking back to that noir pic, are you are saying... Kyonko?!
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Old 2008-03-15, 21:16   Link #2303
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You're supposing way too much.

Slapping or not, to reach that situation first, wouldn't Haruki need to kiss Kyonko back first?

In the original novel, Kyon had no idea what Haruhi did, but surely she wasn't kissing back.

Spoiler:


In this version, will Haruki kiss back AND trespass to the point Kyonko would consider slapping him?

If yes, I'd say the scene could take the reverse of the original above, Haruki wouldn't know what expression Kyonko took, if her eyes were closed, or if she rose her hand to slap him. The scene ends before anything else happens.
Well this is Haruki is a Hormone driven teenag Male. It doesn't seem that unreasonable that Haruki would be faster on the draw regarding this manner than Haruhi.

As I've already stated earlier, I'm against slapping. Panicked mpppphhhing? Sure.
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Here's my take on the kissing thing:
Kyonko and Haruki : blah blah blah

Kyonko reaches up to Haruki's shoulders and pulls him down for a kiss.
Kyonko is all I can't believe I'm doing this.
Haruki goes for total liplock
Kyonko: Eeehhhh?!?!
He keeps going.
Kyonko OMGWTFBBQRAPE!!!
Kyonko ...
Kyonko Actually, this feels kinda nice.
Kyonko Eh, why not?

While still kissing, she takes her free hand and starts undoing her shirt. Then, just before anything gets exposed (I'm thinking in terms of the anime here, not sure how to translate it into writing) the closed space disintegrates. I picture millions of viewers staring at their TV screens in utter disbelief, cursing KyoAni or whoever picks this up.
I think this would be better

Kyonko: (Internal:This is my last shot)
Kyonko:I was totally moe for you when you were ______
Haruki:Huh? What nonsense are you spouting?
Kyonko yanks Haruki down by his shoulder and tie, stands on her tip toes, and kisses him.
Kyonko:... (eyes closed)
Haruki:!!!...
Haruki places his hand behind Kyonko's head, and wraps his arm firmly around her back pressing her tightly to his chest, and starts Frenching.
Kyonko: (Eyes sharply open)!!! Mmmmmph! (Internal:Ack! Is that his tongue?)...mmmmm...(Internal:...kinda nice) (Closes eyes).
Kyonko: (Internal:I'm falling. Is Haruki trying to pin me to the ground?)
Thud
Kyokno's eyes widen, and she finds her self on the floor of her room, clutching her pillow to her face. It's covered in Saliva at the level of her mouth.
Kyonko: ...what was that? This would make even Freud laugh!

What do you think?
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I think the more depart from the way kyon-kun kiss haruhi, the more it doesn't sound so good.
:/

Male kyon never did anything like a slap to haruhi.

so i think female kyon shouldn't either.

Kyon isn't a physical tsundere, he never resorts to something like a slap, to haruhi to get his point across.

It's just not in Kyon character.

No matter if kyons a female or male, i think it's best that we stay true to his character.
I really think it might be appropriate in the sighs of Haruhi suzumiya body of work. Kyon apparently was really considering slugging Harui because of her abuse of Mikuru, but was probably restrained by indoctrinated chivalry that men get (Don't hit girls!). So the Idea that Kyon as a man is visibly making a fist, tensing up, considering hitting girl carries far more weight than for a girl to merely consider doing the same to a guy.

For that one scene to make sense, I think that Kyonko would have to slap Haruki. I just don't see Haruki as getting mellow as he did even if he knew that Kyonko was trying to keep herself in check.
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Old 2008-03-15, 21:27   Link #2304
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Well this is Haruki is a Hormone driven teenag Male. It doesn't seem that unreasonable that Haruki would be faster on the draw regarding this manner than Haruhi.

As I've already stated earlier, I'm against slapping. Panicked mpppphhhing? Sure.

I think this would be better

Kyonko: (Internal:This is my last shot)
Kyonko:I was totally moe for you when you were ______
Haruki:Huh? What nonsense are you spouting?
Kyonko yanks Haruki down by his shoulder and tie, stands on her tip toes, and kisses him.
Kyonko:... (eyes closed)
Haruki:!!!...
Haruki places his hand behind Kyonko's head, and wraps his arm firmly around her back pressing her tightly to his chest, and starts Frenching.
Kyonko: (Eyes sharply open)!!! Mmmmmph! (Internal:Ack! Is that his tongue?)...mmmmm...(Internal:...kinda nice) (Closes eyes).
Kyonko: (Internal:I'm falling. Is Haruki trying to pin me to the ground?)
Thud
Kyokno's eyes widen, and she finds her self on the floor of her room, clutching her pillow to her face. It's covered in Saliva at the level of her mouth.
Kyonko: ...what was that? This would make even Freud laugh!
Minus the moe thing, that sounds about right. I don't think Kyon-chan's gonna be saying stuff about moe.

I say it'll be Haruki complimenting Kyon-chan on her ponytail the next morning, followed then by the tsuntsun/derdere act.
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Old 2008-03-15, 21:34   Link #2305
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I really think it might be appropriate in the sighs of Haruhi suzumiya body of work. Kyon apparently was really considering slugging Harui because of her abuse of Mikuru, but was probably restrained by indoctrinated chivalry that men get (Don't hit girls!). So the Idea that Kyon as a man is visibly making a fist, tensing up, considering hitting girl carries far more weight than for a girl to merely consider doing the same to a guy.

For that one scene to make sense, I think that Kyonko would have to slap Haruki. I just don't see Haruki as getting mellow as he did even if he knew that Kyonko was trying to keep herself in check.
The scene in question tells that Kyon was going to slug Haruhi, but Itsuki and Mikuru held him back.
Spoiler for scene in question:


The big question is how to translate that into a gender-reversed version...
Would Kyonko try to hit Haruki in the family jewels?
A fist to the face?
How much of a b*stard can we make him?
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Old 2008-03-15, 22:20   Link #2306
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Chapter two, Part one, EDITJOB GET!

Spoiler for tl;dr:


/EDIT I still feel that it needs to be Haruki who compromises something for Kyon. A single compliment doesn't, imho, have the same weight.

Also, you'll note that Kyon doesn't hit Haruhi, and that Haruhi doesn't even notice that Kyon wanted to (merely that Kyon had a problem with her). I think that might be important.

//EDIT Updated to reflect Discreet's Edits.

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Old 2008-03-15, 22:28   Link #2307
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@Crow, the difference from Haruki and Haruki is that in the level of brute stubborn brutality, Haruki's GAR has attributed to a huge increase of difference. We can make Haruki beyond what it means to be a bastard, he will be so full of GAR, that he will take any hits and the cry about them later, but still pretend to stand firm for at least 10 seconds. I say full blown GAR-BEAMU. Blasting away all obstacles!
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Old 2008-03-15, 22:33   Link #2308
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Minus the moe thing, that sounds about right. I don't think Kyon-chan's gonna be saying stuff about moe.

I say it'll be Haruki complimenting Kyon-chan on her ponytail the next morning, followed then by the tsuntsun/derdere act.
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The scene in question tells that Kyon was going to slug Haruhi, but Itsuki and Mikuru held him back.
Spoiler for scene in question:


The big question is how to translate that into a gender-reversed version...
Would Kyonko try to hit Haruki in the family jewels?
A fist to the face?
How much of a b*stard can we make him?
Crap. I didn't realize that Kyon actually tried to slug Haruhi. He's a pretty ballsy dude. (Itsuki is a pretty fast dude, it's probably one of his jobs assigned to him by the agency to prevent these kinds of things)

Anyway, this just proves that Kyonko has to connect when she punches him so we can maintain the same level of his melancholy later on. I personally wouldn't go for family jewels, but a good old slug to the side of the head works fine. That way Haruki could maintain at least some dignity.

I'd imagine they'd get into a verbal confrontation after Haruki got punched.
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@Crow, the difference from Haruki and Haruki is that in the level of brute stubborn brutality, Haruki's GAR has attributed to a huge increase of difference. We can make Haruki beyond what it means to be a bastard, he will be so full of GAR, that he will take any hits and the cry about them later, but still pretend to stand firm for at least 10 seconds. I say full blown GAR-BEAMU. Blasting away all obstacles!
Yeah, that seems about right. Haruhi didn't get depressed over the incident until later. Haruki could get stabbed in the face, and he wouldn't scream until nobody was around.
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Old 2008-03-15, 23:20   Link #2309
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Crap. I didn't realize that Kyon actually tried to slug Haruhi. He's a pretty ballsy dude. (Itsuki is a pretty fast dude, it's probably one of his jobs assigned to him by the agency to prevent these kinds of things)

Anyway, this just proves that Kyonko has to connect when she punches him so we can maintain the same level of his melancholy later on. I personally wouldn't go for family jewels, but a good old slug to the side of the head works fine. That way Haruki could maintain at least some dignity.

I'd imagine they'd get into a verbal confrontation after Haruki got punched.
Yeah, that seems about right. Haruhi didn't get depressed over the incident until later. Haruki could get stabbed in the face, and he wouldn't scream until nobody was around.
How about a punch to the gut? There's also kicking shins and slapping him in the face. I could probably come up with more... not that I've ever done that before, of course. >.> <.<

Oh yea, pinching, scratching and punching the arm...

edit: if anyone's interested I do have a scene from a doujin where Kyon actually does 'hit' Haruhi (<==this is sorta related, I think.)
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Old 2008-03-15, 23:36   Link #2310
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Personally, I think a simple slap would be fine. I think what matters to Haruki isn't that she hits him, but that she wanted to hit him.

I'll have some edits tomorrow, too tired today...
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Old 2008-03-15, 23:46   Link #2311
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Here are some art for you Kyonko-moes:



And the not really moe stuff, but stilll nice:


Anyone mind translating the comic please?
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Old 2008-03-16, 00:02   Link #2312
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lol.. kyonko getting changed
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Old 2008-03-16, 00:14   Link #2313
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I've been working on this all day getting picures, combining them, editing them, having to draw in some parts, changing skin so on.



its not very good. . . but its a start! by tommorrow it will be finished!



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hopefully.
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Old 2008-03-16, 01:34   Link #2314
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Allow me to present you a submission for novel 4, chapter 5 illustration.

Spoiler for Nice Boat.:


@beanbrew: A Ryou version will look very different. I am still in process of deciding how it'll look.. beside, how would I know if novel 4's "alternate normal" Asakura's a male or not if the fanfic writers haven't gone crackin' on it yet? :P

Have I earned myself a cookie~?
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Old 2008-03-16, 02:04   Link #2315
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Old 2008-03-16, 03:20   Link #2316
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Are you using Paint or Photoshop? I know Paint takes the dpi and tries to retain it, so it takes one color per cluster and colors that dot like that, so it loses quality.
Since I don't have photoshop and my computer apparnetly doesn't like Gimp, I usually use Paint for the main editing (it's okay though; the only dowside is really that it's slow when you have to do everything pixel-by-pixel). However, I never change the contrast, save or resize the pic there, since like you said, it loses quality. I use different softwares for all of those things, and not all of them are exactly meant for image editing. It takes ages, but copying it around like that is the only way to make it look good

It usually turns out okay, but apparently not on this computer. I hadn't even thought about changing the contrast yet, and then that happened. I was using the same softwares as before, too


Oh, and It's cool to see some genderbending animations. Since I know how time-consuming it can be (I've made a short animation as an assignment, and even with a bad quality it took ages), I never really thought people would start animating this. It's great, though. I hope there'll be more.
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Old 2008-03-16, 04:17   Link #2317
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Hah. If you want heavily inked high-contrast film-noir-ish kind of pics, I might try a hand at that.

First, though, editjobs.

Save the World by
Overloading it with Passion
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...?

I don't even really see why you need to change it from fun. Haruki's looking for fun, too.
And "fun" is so subjective as well -- there can be lots of kinds of "fun"
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Old 2008-03-16, 06:47   Link #2318
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Personally, I think a simple slap would be fine. I think what matters to Haruki isn't that she hits him, but that she wanted to hit him.

I'll have some edits tomorrow, too tired today...
Actually I think it is. For a guy to think a girl tried to hit him isn't the same thing as a guy trying to hit a girl. It's not very logical, but I don't think any of this will sink in if Kyonko tries to hit him, but gets stopped by Itsiko.
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Old 2008-03-16, 07:51   Link #2319
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I dunno. Super-emphasise how RAGED Kyonko is, and see how that rolls.

I think a lot of the shock of that scene is less that it's a guy trying to hit a girl, and more that it's KYON trying to hit HARUHI.
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Old 2008-03-16, 08:38   Link #2320
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I dunno. Super-emphasise how RAGED Kyonko is, and see how that rolls.

I think a lot of the shock of that scene is less that it's a guy trying to hit a girl, and more that it's KYON trying to hit HARUHI.
I kinda doubt it. Even Haruhi would at least somewhat under stand the social conduct surrounding men not being supposed to hit girls, and that in retrospection that she must have seriously pissed off Kyon for him to try it.

That element won't exist with Kyoko trying to hit Haruki, so I can't see him getting as worked up about it. I mean, the last thing a guy usually has to put on his list of absolute most dangerious things that can happen to you is if a Girl decided to beat him up. I imagine even Haruhi wouldn't completely shrug of the factor that Kyon wanted to slug her at that moment.

Besides, Kyonko gets super raged at Haruki all the time. He's not going to be very observant over a 75% difference in her particular rage this time. There needs to be some kind of physical action so our ever headstrong and oblivious chief can notice that "hmmmm, she really Is upset, and I doubt Kyonko fuming and making fists is gonna do that.
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