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Old 2008-06-04, 23:53   Link #9981
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Old 2008-06-04, 23:59   Link #9982
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Old 2008-06-05, 00:01   Link #9983
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About the final line/scene...

Kyonko is still going to have to say something that compliments Haruki and thus throw them out of Closed Space. There is no way you can or should work around that.

Taking the above into account, it wouldn't make much sense if it's Haruki complimenting Kyonko for her ribbon. Stylistically at least.

And hell, they'll both be embarrassed cause they are a Tsundere / Tsundere couple. Just like the original couple, Haruhi and Kyon.
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Old 2008-06-05, 00:03   Link #9984
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About the final line/scene...

Kyonko is still going to have to say something that compliments Haruki and thus throw them out of Closed Space. There is no way you can or should work around that.

Taking the above into account, it wouldn't make much sense if it's Haruki complimenting Kyonko for her ribbon.

And hell, they'll both be embarrassed cause they are a Tsundere / Tsundere couple. Just like the original couple, Haruhi and Kyon.
Original Kyon isn't a tsundere.

Kyon-chan will say something, that's for certain, but all she REALLY needs to do is kiss him. He's easier to manipulate than Haruhi is, really.
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Old 2008-06-05, 00:14   Link #9985
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Original Kyon is so totally Tsundere. Acts like Haruhi's a total menace, but always follows her around and ends up doing whatever she wants him to do. He may be a BIT of a pushover, but there's no way he'd stick with her for that long unless he had some other reasons...

But that's beside the point...

Personally, I had always imagined Kyonko with a ponytail throughout the story and I think that at this point, it becomes harder to imagine what she looks like without a ponytail than with one. We're writing this for fans who've most likely already seen the hundreds of Kyonko pictures, there's no way we can have a completely smooth reading experience if we just suddenly tell the fan-readers that Kyonko has been walking around without a ponytail this entire time. They'll be jolted out mid-sentence for a moment and think to themselves, "What, Kyonko hasn't been wearing a ponytail this entire time? That's really weird!"

My only other beef is the stylistic choices being made here. For one thing, the ponytail that Haruhi suddenly decides to wear is a symbolic representation of her mindset actually changing from a spoiled girl stubbornly seeking adventure to one who can settle for simpler things like friends, fun and love.

Another is the matching and ambiguous feelings of affection between the Kiss scene and the Morning After scene is just so potent, I'd absolutely hate to see it changed.

These last two points are entirely personal opinion, the first point is speculation.

Take from it what you will.
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Old 2008-06-05, 00:20   Link #9986
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... that's probably the first time i heard "tsundere" being used to refer to a guy....
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Old 2008-06-05, 00:20   Link #9987
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Which means that, we need more pictures of Kyonko with her hair untied.
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Old 2008-06-05, 00:23   Link #9988
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Original Kyon is so totally Tsundere. Acts like Haruhi's a total menace, but always follows her around and ends up doing whatever she wants him to do. He may be a BIT of a pushover, but there's no way he'd stick with her for that long unless he had some other reasons...
That's not tsundere, really. To be tsundere, he'd have to blush more and loudly deny his affection for Haruhi. (You know, like Tomoya Okazaki.) Instead, he shows little more emotion than Yuki and denies his attraction almost in passing.

That's darudere, sorta, now that I think about it.

Actually, I have problems with Haruhi being defined as a tsundere either. She doesn't have as much of the affectionate side, lacks twintails, and doesn't sound like this.

Plus, labeling anyone with those qualities creates things like this.

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Personally, I had always imagined Kyonko with a ponytail throughout the story and I think that at this point, it becomes harder to imagine what she looks like without a ponytail than with one. We're writing this for fans who've most likely already seen the hundreds of Kyonko pictures, there's no way we can have a completely smooth reading experience if we just suddenly tell the fan-readers that Kyonko has been walking around without a ponytail this entire time. They'll be jolted out mid-sentence for a moment and think to themselves, "What, Kyonko hasn't been wearing a ponytail this entire time? That's really weird!"

My only other beef is the stylistic choices being made here. For one thing, the ponytail that Haruhi suddenly decides to wear is a symbolic representation of her mindset actually changing from a spoiled girl stubbornly seeking adventure to one who can settle for simpler things like friends, fun and love.

Another is the matching and ambiguous feelings of affection between the Kiss scene and the Morning After scene is just so potent, I'd absolutely hate to see it changed.

These last two points are entirely personal opinion, the first point is speculation.

Take from it what you will.
See, whenever you complain about the stuff I write, all I see is you stifling my creativity and the derivative nature of the work itself.

One can expect that the work would eventually diverge from the original. That was half the point of writing this, to find out the differences that would inevitably emerge.

Your first point is valid, however. It'd probably work better if you read it all in one go. Also, I do keep drawing attention to it.
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Old 2008-06-05, 00:31   Link #9989
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There should always be at least one person who almost always has completely opposing viewpoints to your's, who can at least bring your attention to the other perspective of things.

You are Liberal.

I am Conservative.

(At least that's how I see it.)

I won't stop doing this sort of thing.
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Old 2008-06-05, 00:35   Link #9990
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There should always be at least one person who almost always has completely opposing viewpoints to your's, who can at least bring your attention to the other perspective of things.

You are Liberal.

I am Conservative.

(At least that's how I see it.)

I won't stop doing this sort of thing.
And if I let you have your way, we'd just end up with the original with all the gender pronouns and names switched.
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Old 2008-06-05, 00:40   Link #9991
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And if I let you have your way, we'd just end up with the original with all the gender pronouns and names switched.
which would be very wrong...
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Old 2008-06-05, 01:32   Link #9992
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Oh my god, we have to do that at some point.
I strongly disagree with that ... -_- Save it for the doujins.
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Old 2008-06-05, 01:46   Link #9993
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Okay, no one has gone against the quote style format for the entire thread summary. Next 150 then...

Spoiler for The personality of (male) Haruhi Suzumiya:


Spoiler for Hairband:

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right... *presents rockman the "danchou armband"*

let's define everyone's character/personality first...
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I finished my first draft of the prologue, but I think I made Kyon-ko a bit too feminine with all the shojou references...

Tell me what you guys think.


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Also, RmX, that scene that he's referring to in Vol 2. is the one where Kyon tries to hit Haruhi... somehow we're going to have to change that.
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I have the re-pitched versions of Mitsuuru Character songs. He can sing very well
Etc, Happy life
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOuZN_ABX0M
Toki no puzzle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXPCCdErZuY
Hare Hare Yukai
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhpLJpPAaS4

and this last two are for your entertainment...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPe1l5MpQIc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzOVqhNqdh0
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Old 2008-06-05, 02:05   Link #9994
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There should always be at least one person who almost always has completely opposing viewpoints to your's, who can at least bring your attention to the other perspective of things.

You are Liberal.

I am Conservative.

(At least that's how I see it.)

I won't stop doing this sort of thing.
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my idea of katana prevailed! W00000000t!


back to the action...


Spoiler for Disappearance Chapter 4: Gotta get back, back to the past, Jane Smith:


very short...

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Old 2008-06-05, 03:05   Link #9997
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You know I was just wondering. John Smith was chosen for it be just so generic.

Well for kyonko what about Mary Jane instead? Jane Smith sounds..weird...
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You know I was just wondering. John Smith was chosen for it be just so generic.

Well for kyonko what about Mary Jane instead? Jane Smith sounds..weird...
That works.
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You know I was just wondering. John Smith was chosen for it be just so generic.

Well for kyonko what about Mary Jane instead? Jane Smith sounds..weird...
Watson?
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Congrats on reaching post 10,000 guys.

Oh yeah, what excuse is Kyonko going to come with to kiss Haruki? Since we're not doing the ponytail thing and all...
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