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Old 2009-05-07, 03:19   Link #15121
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Even though the characters are my strong point, I was pondering the idea of making some backgrounds. Of course, I definitely don't want to bite off more than I can chew or else I'll go crazy (This is where an art team would come in handy.), so maybe it's best I don't. At least the backgrounds can easily be reused for each universe.
Seitenkan universe will not be lasting very long. In most routes. Don't worry about that.
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Old 2009-05-07, 03:21   Link #15122
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Even though the characters are my strong point, I was pondering the idea of making some backgrounds. Of course, I definitely don't want to bite off more than I can chew or else I'll go crazy (This is where an art team would come in handy.), so maybe it's best I don't. At least the backgrounds can easily be reused for each universe.
Actually I was more impressed by your background in my initial reaction to those samples of yours.

Though my first request would be for a post-apocalyptic city in ruins as alluded to by Kaisos, and I wonder how difficult a request that one would be.
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Old 2009-05-07, 03:23   Link #15123
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I have this horrific urge to draw. It's probably all this praise going to another artist. D:

Is it the next day in Canadia yet, Kaisos? I require material! Only you know what is going on with the project, I can't do anything original because I'm pretty much clueless here.

And Kyon calling Kyonko Nayuki is a-ok.
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Old 2009-05-07, 03:23   Link #15124
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Actually I was more impressed by your background in my initial reaction to those samples of yours.

Though my first request would be for a post-apocalyptic city in ruins as alluded to by Kaisos, and I wonder how difficult a request that one would be.
Very difficult unless I'm allowed to be sloppy like the forest I posted. Even so, it'll probably take a while.
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Old 2009-05-07, 03:24   Link #15125
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I think we should concentrate on characters first.

You know what? I'm going to read through the flowchart. Maybe then I can finally find out what it is exactly that I am working on.
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Old 2009-05-07, 03:26   Link #15126
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Or we could just photograph areas that LOOK Japanese.
Someone could scour the nets for photos of Nishinomiya for the outdoors.

We'll need a official rendering of the indoor environments like the clubroom though. Others like classes or trains have a generic look that is easily duplicated.

And yeah, the mindfreak fantasy scenes need artists or good photoshoppers.
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Old 2009-05-07, 03:26   Link #15127
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I have this horrific urge to draw. It's probably all this praise going to another artist. D:
Go for it.

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Is it the next day in Canadia yet, Kaisos? I require material! Only you know what is going on with the project, I can't do anything original because I'm pretty much clueless here.
It's almost 1:30 AM here on the Pacific coast.

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Very difficult unless I'm allowed to be sloppy like the forest I posted. Even so, it'll probably take a while.
Just know that scenes of post-apocalypse Seitenkan universe have little to do with the main plot. It's kind of a side story thing.

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I think we should concentrate on characters first.
Probably.
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Old 2009-05-07, 03:27   Link #15128
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I have this horrific urge to draw. It's probably all this praise going to another artist. D:
Draw me the 1-5 classroom from the angle Kyon would see it when sitting down, then. =P

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Is it the next day in Canadia yet, Kaisos? I require material! Only you know what is going on with the project, I can't do anything original because I'm pretty much clueless here.

And Kyon calling Kyonko Nayuki is a-ok.
Sigh. It's the next day, but "next day" as in "1:30 in the morning". Stupid goblin warren.

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I think we should concentrate on characters first.
I think we should concentrate on the "novel" part of "visual novel" first. Which means that I have to WRITE. Awesome.

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You know what? I'm going to read through the flowchart. Maybe then I can finally find out what it is exactly that I am working on.
The outlines would be a better idea.

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And yeah, the mindfreak fantasy scenes need artists or good photoshoppers.
Especially OzTsuruyaland.
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Old 2009-05-07, 03:33   Link #15129
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Well, I meant visually we should concentrate on our characters. I figure each of them has the few basic emotion-pictures like in most visual novels. Obviously we should also be writing, since that's our speciality...

How was your game, bro? Did you wipe your party? :3
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Old 2009-05-07, 03:36   Link #15130
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Well, I meant visually we should concentrate on our characters. I figure each of them has the few basic emotion-pictures like in most visual novels. Obviously we should also be writing, since that's our speciality...
Indeed, though I'm terrified my writing is going to look like shit, but then, I'm never satisfied with anything I write.

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How was your game, bro? Did you wipe your party? :3
No, just, so many goblins. Christ. So many attack rolls.

I had them invade this goblin warren... it got ridiculous. Never doing that again.

It's impossible to challenge your PCs when one of them is basically Female Wolverine with a King of the Hill accent. Stupid Feral template.

Anyway, I'm going to bed so I can get up relatively early and write out Day 0. Fuck this might be shitty quality.
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Old 2009-05-07, 03:36   Link #15131
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I don't know yet. The English subs ALWAYS used Western name order, but it depends on what people here think.
I'd prefer Japanese-style, personally.
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I like the idea of "sex as a plot device". Not like mystical tantric Nasuverse shit, I mean simply-- sex as a plot device.
You mean Deus Sex Machina?

Also yeah, there are some funny things that can be done during a sex scene. (That phrase didn't come out right, but I hope it gets the point across.)
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Old 2009-05-07, 03:38   Link #15132
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You mean Deus Sex Machina?
No, actually.

Like. Sex directly causing consequences for characters. Or just changing how you perceive them.

Poor Kyon in the Esper route. At least he has practically every other route to be badass in.

Now, dammit, I need sleep...
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Old 2009-05-07, 03:48   Link #15133
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No, actually.

Like. Sex directly causing consequences for characters. Or just changing how you perceive them.

Poor Kyon in the Esper route. At least he has practically every other route to be badass in.

Now, dammit, I need sleep...
School Days.

While Koizumi is out playing Ocelot, Kyon gets to be Makoto.

@Binjovi: You should probably post your work in the image thread as well, so that more can bask in your glory.
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Old 2009-05-07, 04:08   Link #15134
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... damn it, now I'd feel bad if I posted what I've been working out for the last few hours, as this topic is firmly set in VN-land now
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... well... at least it's written the same...
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Old 2009-05-07, 04:37   Link #15135
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Indeed, though I'm terrified my writing is going to look like shit, but then, I'm never satisfied with anything I write.
Don't worry, I'm here to polish the crap out of it until it sparkles.
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Old 2009-05-07, 05:16   Link #15136
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I've been tweaking the sketches some more. I think I've made some improvements. Below is a comparison shot (The right side is the original) 'cause most of the tweaks have been minor.

Spoiler for the image being larger this time.:
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Old 2009-05-07, 05:21   Link #15137
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Wow nice, they are pretty good. I like them.
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Old 2009-05-07, 05:34   Link #15138
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Here's a classroom shot that looks like absolute crap.



I might just start sketching the characters, I'm way out of practice with Seitenkan...
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Old 2009-05-07, 05:37   Link #15139
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Totally works as a base, except that the angle might be a little high.
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Old 2009-05-07, 05:39   Link #15140
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Yeah, I screwed up when I extended the windows.

And just for lulz, I'd like it if we called the two universes "Universe 1" and "Universe A". Because Side A and B implies one is superior...

(even if one *is* superior, I think it'd be a good reference.)
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