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Old 2009-08-01, 22:56   Link #18081
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Spoiler for September the Fourth, Day 3, Universe 1: Cat and Mouse:
That was insane!
Points for "roundhouse kicking through the wall".
Incredibly stylish for turning the water to ice and sliding across it.
Nagato vs Nagato is intense. Now if only we could see them fight each other symmetrically.
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Old 2009-08-01, 23:03   Link #18082
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I played it a while ago. How is that interesting?
It's one of the darkest and yet most beautiful things I've ever played, is all.

Most people are turned off by the guro, so I'm just surprised to see another person I know playing it.

But then again you watched EoE at what, 9?

So I shouldn't be too surprised...

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Now if only we could see them fight each other symmetrically.
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Old 2009-08-01, 23:06   Link #18083
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About the Data Thought Sentient Integration Overmind Entity of 1000 Uses...

If we really wanna be literal, we could just call it the Jouhou Tougou Shinentai, can't we? Meh, I like Data Overmind better myself, and it appears so does everyone else.

...Too bad I don't have any rule over this. I'm not creating or discussing an MxM shipping of the Datathing and it's not useless information, so I'm afraid I'm reduced to...

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Now, back to Higurashi.
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Old 2009-08-01, 23:08   Link #18084
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Aw damn. Kyonko's in some deep shit there. She's not gonna stay in good shape for long if this keeps up.

And Yuuki is rather...destructive in his attempt to escape with Kyonko.
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Old 2009-08-01, 23:23   Link #18085
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Forgot about how you wouldn't have been used to the official English translation's terms.

It's a shame that there hasn't been an official translation in any other language. I kind of doubt there ever will be, though. Baka-Tsuki also doesn't seem to have too much translated in Portuguese, along with all the other languages there...
At last I know the group translating it is stil active. Just very slow. Unfortunately Haruhi is not as famous here, even on internet is hard to find a forum talking about it, so it is not likely to have it translated. Maybe the manga, but only when it finish in Japan.

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About the Data Thought Sentient Integration Overmind Entity of 1000 Uses...

If we really wanna be literal, we could just call it the Jouhou Tougou Shinentai, can't we? Meh, I like Data Overmind better myself, and it appears so does everyone else.

...Too bad I don't have any rule over this. I'm not creating or discussing an MxM shipping of the Datathing and it's not useless information, so I'm afraid I'm reduced to...

nyoro~n
Liteal translation is not don't translating it. 'Data Thought Sentient Integration' may be a literal translation, 'Jouhou Tougou Shinentai' is not. Due to it nature, a literal translation would work well. Anyway, as I said, no point discussing it here (unless Kaisos is open to a change, which I do not believe)
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Old 2009-08-01, 23:38   Link #18086
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It's one of the darkest and yet most beautiful things I've ever played, is all.
I've heard of it, but now I definitely have to check it out and add it to my pile of games to play.
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Old 2009-08-01, 23:55   Link #18087
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It's one of the darkest and yet most beautiful things I've ever played, is all.

Most people are turned off by the guro, so I'm just surprised to see another person I know playing it.

But then again you watched EoE at what, 9?

So I shouldn't be too surprised...
The guro stuff didn't really bother me. I don't know if that's because I was paying more attention to the story, or if it's a side effect of seeing everyone getting hugged and turned into Tang by a giant naked Rei. Most likely the first option, but if GNR can make me avoid Tang for the rest of my life, what can't she do?

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I've heard of it, but now I definitely have to check it out and add it to my pile of games to play.
Yes. Yes, you do.

Bleh, I realized that there was nothing on-topic here. Then I thought of what the topic was. Genderbending.

...Picturing Saya as an alien shota isn't bad, but oh god I reaaally don't want to think of what would be done to man!Yoh.
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Old 2009-08-02, 01:54   Link #18088
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22 now. =P

Spoiler for September the Fourth, Day 3, Universe 1: Clubroom(?)- The Wrong Side of the Fence:


To clarify, "long-range scanning" simply involves Nagato linking to a satellite and scanning an area that way. "Short-range scanning", conversely, involves him using his own abilities to directly scan through a smaller area. As such, it's more difficult in the first place, and he's currently having trouble.
Wheehee! Action hero Nagato Yuuki!
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Old 2009-08-02, 02:25   Link #18089
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Aw damn. Kyonko's in some deep shit there. She's not gonna stay in good shape for long if this keeps up.

And Yuuki is rather...destructive in his attempt to escape with Kyonko.
Most of the more blatant destruction he repairs. Well, except for the poor library.

Maybe I should have Jintor add some line about Yuki 'glaring' in 'rage' at the damaged books.

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I've heard of it, but now I definitely have to check it out and add it to my pile of games to play.
Um.

I would not do it unless you can handle gore everywhere. And I mean everywhere. Like OH GOD MY BEDSHEETS ARE MADE OF FLESH everywhere.

And generally disturbing descriptive imagery.

If you can handle that it's worth it as the story is fucking incredible.

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The guro stuff didn't really bother me. I don't know if that's because I was paying more attention to the story, or if it's a side effect of seeing everyone getting hugged and turned into Tang by a giant naked Rei. Most likely the first option, but if GNR can make me avoid Tang for the rest of my life, what can't she do?
The entire Komm, Susser Todd sequence was the greatest moment in animation, ever.

And yeah, I don't think I'll be able to drink Tang ever either, though I've never exactly looked for it...
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Old 2009-08-02, 02:42   Link #18090
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HARUHI transsexual "She KYON" doujinshi sale

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http://74.125.47.132/translate_c?hl=...cjxw2acuJibJ1w


How many different gender-bender Haruhi fanfics are there out there anyway?
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Old 2009-08-02, 02:47   Link #18091
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How many different gender-bender Haruhi fanfics are there out there anyway?
Well, there are the ones archived here ... and I know there's a Kyonko C2 on fanfiction.net.

Other than that ... no idea.
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Old 2009-08-02, 03:08   Link #18092
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While on that matter, I wonder if Japan has a organized project like this one and if it has a concensus about the characters personality.

I mean, most english fanwork derives from here right? So most characters are more or less similar to how they are here (based on Kaisos view of then) right? The same occurs in Japan?
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Old 2009-08-02, 03:21   Link #18093
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While on that matter, I wonder if Japan has a organized project like this one and if it has a concensus about the characters personality.

I mean, most english fanwork derives from here right? So most characters are more or less similar to how they are here (based on Kaisos view of then) right? The same occurs in Japan?
Japan only seems to have various doujin works rather than a semi-organized group like this, but...

Most of the early character interpretations here were based off of a single, very early doujin, which in turn was simply based off of the archetypes we can easily see they embody just by looking at the original NicoNico video that started all of this.

So the basis is the same.

I applaud the person who decided that turning Kyon into a loli tsundere was a good idea.

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I consider this the BEST IDEA EVER.
I still agree with myself to this very day.
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Old 2009-08-02, 04:02   Link #18094
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Japan only seems to have various doujin works rather than a semi-organized group like this, but...

Most of the early character interpretations here were based off of a single, very early doujin, which in turn was simply based off of the archetypes we can easily see they embody just by looking at the original NicoNico video that started all of this.

So the basis is the same.

I applaud the person who decided that turning Kyon into a loli tsundere was a good idea.
I see. Really it is not that different. Many ideas of the rewrite also come from these early doujins rights? Like the early "Be my bride!" or Ryou(*couth*Assassin*couth*) with a katana.

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I still agree with myself to this very day.
I guess it is why you are still writing it right?

But now I am curious with the names. Reading this first pages, I saw you trying to decides how it would be. It ends how it is now, but only Haruki's and Itsuko's are different from the japanese version. Coincidence?
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Old 2009-08-02, 04:11   Link #18095
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I see. Really it is not that different. Many ideas of the rewrite also come from these early doujins rights? Like the early "Be my bride!" or Ryou(*couth*Assassin*couth*) with a katana.
Ryou = Assassin is ALL Danchou's fault. None of mine.

And "be my bride" thing I consider stupid now. It seemed like a good idea at the time though.

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But now I am curious with the names. Reading this first pages, I saw you trying to decides how it would be. It ends how it is now, but only Haruki's and Itsuko's are different from the japanese version. Coincidence?
Itsuko's Japanese name is "Itsuki", but with the "ki" being the kanji for "princess". We could have gone "Itsuhime" to preserve the joke, but I seem to remember it being simpler to just call her "Itsuko".

"Haruhiko" sounds stupid to an English reader, as we'd naturally separate it into "Haruhi" and "ko", which would be making an already feminine name even more feminine. In fact, it should be separated as "Haru" and "hiko", (the latter of which is a strongly masculine ending) but, again, to an English reader...

In any case, "Haruki" keep the correct number of syllables and seems to be a more common name anyway, so to the Elevens.

Although unlike "Haruhi" and "Haruhiko" it can actually be written in Kanji, but again, that doesn't matter to us.

Also, Shin used "Haruki" and "Itsuko" and he was one of the early driving forces, so it became "Haruki" and "Itsuko".

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Old 2009-08-02, 04:25   Link #18096
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Ryou = Assassin is ALL Danchou's fault. None of mine.
Actually it is the guy who draw he first fault. They have very similar appearence. A friend, who isn't familiar with neither, could tell it by sight. I always thought this is why he end up with a katana inste a knife.

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And "be my bride" thing I consider stupid now. It seemed like a good idea at the time though.
Very stupid, yeah. But also stupidly funny.

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Itsuko's Japanese name is "Itsuki", but with the "ki" being the kanji for "princess". We could have gone "Itsuhime" to preserve the joke, but I seem to remember it being simpler to just call her "Itsuko".

"Haruhiko" sounds stupid to an English reader, as we'd naturally separate it into "Haruhi" and "ko", which would be making an already feminine name even more feminine. In fact, it should be separated as "Haru" and "hiko", (the latter of which is a strongly masculine ending) but, again, to an English reader...

In any case, "Haruki" keep the correct number of syllables and seems to be a more common name anyway, so to the Elevens.

Although unlike "Haruhi" and "Haruhiko" it can actually be written in Kanji, but again, that doesn't matter to us.

Also, Shin used "Haruki" and "Itsuko" and he was one of the early driving forces, so it became "Haruki" and "Itsuko".

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That I know ("Haruhi" couldn't be writen with 'spring' and 'day', btw?)

I was talking about the other 2 guys. They are Mitsuuru and Yuuki in Japan too right? I saw you discussed a lot before agree, but the name ended being the same as in japan. Coicidence or you just decided use it to have less discrepancy?

Hey, remeber I telling you we have to have a 'history' page on our site? I was talking about stuff like this. The genderbent history is the Tsuji history after all.

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Oh, an addendum. I really like Haruki way better then Haruhiko. And while Itsu'hime' looks fine in kanji, how it would be if ever got dubbed? I say your ideas are better . (by 'your' I mean 'people of the forum". Damn english that do not have a second person plural)
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Although unlike "Haruhi and "Haruhiko" it can actually be written in Kanji
Ways to write Haruhi in kanji, and ways to write Haruhiko in kanji.

Oddly enough, for some reason only Haruhi has a katakana reading common enough to include. And Haruki in katakana is listed as a female name. Actually, most ways of reading "Haruki" are female names.
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Ways to write Haruhi in kanji, and ways to write Haruhiko in kanji.

Oddly enough, for some reason only Haruhi has a katakana reading common enough to include.
Interesting. I didn't now you cold mix hiragana and kanji (はる緋).

Amusely, while 'Haruhi' is always femele, 'Haruhiko" can be femele too. And it is 'haruhi-ko'(春日子).

I didn't understand that sit well. How can o look for "Haruki"?
Nevemind, I found a way.

Haruki in Kanji

Interestingly, 'Haruki' in katakana seens to be a female name. I can be male if is write in kanji, however. I wonder how our Haruki's name is write then... (not that it really matter for a english speaker)
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Haruhi: 100% female
Haruki: 35% female, 4% male, 61% unspecified. (results truncated at 100)
Haruhiko: 83% male, 8% female, 9% unspecified.

Overall, Haruhiko appears to be the most masculine of the three.
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Haruhi: 100% female
Haruki: 35% female, 4% male, 61% unspecified. (results truncated at 100)
Haruhiko: 83% male, 8% female, 9% unspecified.

Overall, Haruhiko appears to be the most masculine of the three.
True, this explain why the japanese choiced it. Yet, Haruki feel more natural to me (and other non-japanese speakers, I suppose).

By the way, I make a list of my favourites kanijs for Haruki:
開 (open, unseal) If Kyonko is the key, he is the door right?
啓己 (disclose, open + rough male "I") Same as before, but with the "ore" thing.
晴喜 (clear up + rejoice) Becaus of the "rejoice" part. Also, it is one of the few that are definetly male.
晴基 (clear up + fundation) Cause clearing up fundations is what he do.
暖生東樹 (warm + life + east + wood) Just because it is ridiculous big. I mean, how it is possible have more kanjis then hiraganas?

(feel free to ignore, I just like this kind of stuff)

While on the subject, Yuuki's and Mitsuru's don't seen to be much masculine either. Both only have one way to write that is definetly male.

This site also says that 'Kyon' is female! And that Kyonko does exist, as a female name, amusely, the kanjis, 今武子, means "now", "military" and "child".

Now I wonder if Kyon's name is Imatake (今武). It seens to be the only reading for this kanjis. But '今武子' is 'Kyonko' (not Imatako). Removing the 'ko'(子) we have 'kyon'. Tough neither of this names seens to be very known. Also, don't know it Imatake is royal sounding.

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