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Old 2008-06-11, 14:09   Link #761
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Pretty nice, but I noticed a piece of her shirt disappears in the last frame. You seemed to get the facial expressions right, though.
Ah! Thanks for pointing that out XD I totally would have left it like that x_x'

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As for the facepalm. Once the motions are down, it can probably be made more structually female to match the Kyonko artwork. I guess a slightly thinner neck, slightly smaller shoulders, for anime, slightly larger eyes. Getting the flow right is a big step though.
Yeah, it definitely needs a bit more femming up - I agree. I seemed to go from one extreme with the neck to another... I'll try and sort that out as it is a little bit too wide >_>' Along with the shoulders...

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That's actually a badly drawn collarbone.
Ouch xD

Yeah, I define the collarbone quite heavily when I'm drawing... but if it bothers people I guess I could take it out >_>'
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Old 2008-06-11, 20:55   Link #762
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That's actually a badly drawn collarbone.
And should this poorly drawn collarbone be disappearing?
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Old 2008-06-12, 13:06   Link #763
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Ok, I didn't do anything with it last night- but now I got some feedback on it I went ahead and tarted Kyonko up a bit on the first frame.

This is what I got so far:


I was a bit apprehensive about getting rid of the nose... but I realise I got to try and not incorporate my own style into it and try to make it more anime-esque ^^'
Also, I made the collarbone less obvious and heavy as I had it before X)

So - any more comments on her facial scructure or otherwise? Or should I go ahead with this?
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Old 2008-06-12, 13:14   Link #764
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I think I want to see a Haruki with a gender bend Konata sometime in the future.
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Old 2008-06-12, 13:34   Link #765
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Something looks wrong with the eyes. Maybe it is just part of the pose, but are they large enough? (this is anime still) Maybe just rounder instead of larger? Just something seems off. The neck may still be too wide, but try it like it is for now.
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Old 2008-06-12, 13:42   Link #766
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Something looks wrong with the eyes. Maybe it is just part of the pose, but are they large enough? (this is anime still) Maybe just rounder instead of larger? Just something seems off. The neck may still be too wide, but try it like it is for now.
Ok, I had another good look at it... maybe the eyes were a bit too high and needed to be brought down a bit?

I also slimmed down the neck slightly more.

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Old 2008-06-12, 13:49   Link #767
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That looks about right.
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Old 2008-06-12, 18:44   Link #768
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Editing the animation is taking slightly longer than I had bargained for XD!

Ok, so I've only had enough time on the compter to get just over half way through the animation whilst incorporating the more feminised parts into my original animation.

So bits here and there still need tweaking... in hindsight, it might have been better to edit them now whilst I'm doing everything else... but I seem to think it's more logical to work through on the odd problems with the jaw line (last frame) and the 'sideburns' (for lack of a better word to describe them o_O') afterwards...

ANYWAY!
Let me know your thoughts....

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Old 2008-06-12, 20:56   Link #769
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It is probably alright. A side by side comparision between the Kyons might help.
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Old 2008-06-12, 23:58   Link #770
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"Into the shoujo manga you go!"
I lol'ed. Nice.

fishy_hylian, it looks great, and the movement itself is pretty smooth and recognizable. Just one particular room for improvement that stood out for me: the very last frame, his eyes look like those of an evil robot (or rather, his eyebrows are swallowing his eyes). Since it's a work in progress I'm guessing you may have just not finished that part, though. Also, it kind of looks like she's thrusting herself forward rather than simply shifting her posture.

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Old 2008-06-13, 02:00   Link #771
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Hair's a bit sphere-ish.
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Old 2008-06-13, 02:21   Link #772
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That might be lost when it gets colored.
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Old 2008-06-13, 10:54   Link #773
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Looks great and fluid fishy, keep it up.
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Old 2008-06-13, 11:32   Link #774
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For figure lovers like myself. Itsuki-hime...



of course Kyonko is there.
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Old 2008-06-13, 15:19   Link #775
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Thanks everyone for the comments

@Ithekro - I suppose I could whip up a side by side comparison... I'll post that up in a bit... I know for sure that the hand placements aren't copied exactly, as I had a bit of a mental block with that for some reason >_>'

@ myopius - Do you mean when the eye closes? I've only outlined the eyelashes for the animation so far (it makes it easier to follow the lines), is that what you meant? When it's coloured they'll be block coloured

@ Kagedanji - Yeah... that bothers me a bit as well actually... That's a job for the next version!


I finished off the last few remaining frames from the one I was doing last night. I also sped up the frame rate a bit - I thought the other animation was probably going a bit slowly? But if this is too fast, I'll change it back ^^'




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Old 2008-06-13, 22:10   Link #776
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it does seem a little fast, just a small slow down might make it work, idk
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Old 2008-06-13, 23:28   Link #777
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XD I think it looks fine. Now for the colors XD
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Old 2008-06-14, 23:09   Link #778
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O_O
That...looks great! Like Tuna said, it just needs colors.
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Old 2008-06-15, 00:28   Link #779
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Aside from hand position (which hopefully won't matter), it's fine. Needs touchup, detail, and color....and multiple sizes (avatar size would be the most used I think).
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Old 2008-06-16, 10:49   Link #780
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