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Old 2009-12-08, 13:35   Link #2161
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then lets just enjoy needless for now and stop debating when it will end
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Old 2009-12-08, 13:41   Link #2162
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Ok, but can I say just one last thing??

I've measured both lines. Needless 2 line is shorter (ends at the part where BS doujin begins) than Needless 1 line. While the first one measures 5cm, the second measures 4cm. Not surprising considering the sequel is supossed to wrap what the first half left unsolved.
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Old 2009-12-08, 13:43   Link #2163
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ya but it does not bode well for either Adam, since Cain is super powerful and traveling alone.
Frankly with both parts I'm fine if it goes on and on
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Old 2009-12-08, 13:47   Link #2164
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ya but it does not bode well for either Adam, since Cain is super powerful and traveling alone
Actually no, because BS doujin begins with Cain still as how he is. He however goes through a series of experiments (that scar on his neck is the result) and becomes terribly strong. His sister Abel goes through the same experiments with different results.

Unlike Cruz, Cain is a needless, therefore it's not exactly a repeat of Needless 1 situation. It would be if Cain was just an ordinary boy with no powers, but no, Adam only one can exist.

Calculating the lenght of both halfs, Needless whole concept would come to an end when I reach the 30s.
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Old 2009-12-08, 13:51   Link #2165
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Kurusu there is no camparison to how powerful cain is in blackspot and 1.5. (can fly, make people explode, control machinary, take people down with just a pun) he already had the scar at the beginning of that story (whatever happened to him happened in needless 2)
It would be a ripoff if it was exactly the same thing but the parallel between him and cruz are very large, common before it was proved cannon you thought cain was the basis for cruz
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Old 2009-12-08, 13:57   Link #2166
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Kurusu there is no camparison to how powerful cain is in blackspot and 1.5. (can fly, make people explode, control machinary, take people down with just a pun) he already had the scar at the beginning of that story
It would be a ripoff if it was exactly the same thing but the parallel between him are cruz,
Yes, but what I mean is, just because Cain is now alone doesn't have to mean that, and I doubt Kami would repeat a same development again.

Plus one Adam must exist.
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Old 2009-12-08, 14:00   Link #2167
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unless they all follow the path of christ
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Old 2009-12-08, 14:03   Link #2168
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I hope I don't have to follow the path of Christ....

< in RL last name is Christ lol
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Old 2009-12-08, 14:06   Link #2169
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^Nah, don't worry, won't happen^^

Needless whole concept kind of reminds me of Hokuto no Ken.

First part was 136 chapters lenght, second was 74 chapters, something more than half of first part content. An epilogue ala BS doujin covers the last part of the story.

Finally, at the beggining there were many hokuto shinken users, all candidates to be the next successor. At the end of the story, only one real successor was left alive.

And yes, the whole concept was planned from the beggining too
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Old 2009-12-08, 14:09   Link #2170
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but the end still does look like an end without a christ.
I mangaed to find an online part that had like the first twenty pages of black spot (that for the life of me i cant find again why the hell didnt i bookmark that) and it had him scarred, meeting the little girl, and no mention of adam.



Stil not much of a running when none of the good guys actually want to be second christ. only the bad guy does
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Old 2009-12-08, 14:15   Link #2171
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Obvious there's no mention, it's an story focused only on Cain.

Don't worry, you can be sure the last Adam will survive through what's left of story

Also as I said, Kami is not the type of mangaka who repeats a same situation. Add to that the fact Cain doesn't wear the choker. And the fact he remains as Cain and not as Adam says all.
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Old 2009-12-08, 14:24   Link #2172
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actually it funny about cain, we know whats going to happen to him because of black spot (gets injected with eden cells etc)

and while hes clearly not an adam he is the one who (mostly because of the scar) ends up looking the most like the second
Spoiler for similar looks:
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Old 2009-12-08, 14:25   Link #2173
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^But has he all the powers?

Cai is one of Adam's sons in the bible.

What I mean is, a repeat of that development is unlikely to happen, more when you take in consideration that there's a certain woman who wouldn't like losing her Adam a second time.
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Old 2009-12-08, 14:26   Link #2174
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Was it ever explained how the Second died? Did 666 capture him and kill him off?
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Old 2009-12-08, 14:27   Link #2175
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if blade does die, eve would probably still be in mourning by that point,
(not being around the chruch)
and adam N wouldnt have the same relationship with her she had with Blade.
neither adam n nor blade have all the powers either i'm just talking about in terms of looks.
just in the anime, the manga still unknown in regards to the seconds demise.
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Old 2009-12-08, 14:31   Link #2176
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if blade does die, eve would probably still be in mourning by that point, and adam N wouldnt have the same relationship with her she had with Blade.
(not being around the chruch)

just in the anime, the manga still unknown.
Was Eve around the church when Blade returned?

If you mean that...



Notice in Needless 2 there's a new Adam and only one and the same Eve.
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Old 2009-12-08, 14:32   Link #2177
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I said she be in mourning. And adam N has blades abilities but nearly identical to Eve's personality and looks so she is basically a two in one.
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Old 2009-12-08, 14:34   Link #2178
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I said she be in mourning. And adam N has blades abilities but nearly identical to Eve's personality and looks so she is basically a two in one.
Siblings you mean (except in color hair)?

Adam N. abilities are none at the beggining, but she copies one from ice needless, Cain's sound power and that ability with wich she crushes Adam C.
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Old 2009-12-08, 14:39   Link #2179
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Blade:I mean she has the same zero as blade and his death verdict. So she has HIS powers.
(blade did not start out with any power either, they even have her hurt her right hand like blade did)

Eve: I mean a near identical appearence, near identical clothing, and a near identical personality.
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Old 2009-12-08, 14:44   Link #2180
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There's a difference with Blade.

She's stated human, not clone (the first 79 Adam projects).
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