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Old 2009-12-08, 14:46   Link #2181
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The powers are exactly the same. Its the same zero and the same move.

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Old 2009-12-08, 16:42   Link #2182
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Needless fragment classification by level:

Missing Link

-Zero (Blade, Arclight...)
-Doppelganger (Eve)
-Bermuda Athport (Uten)
-Power (Mio)
-Speed (Setsuna)
-Fragance (Kuchinashi)
-Psichokinesis (Ruri)
-The Fourth Wave (Saten)
-Agni Schiwatas (Aruka)
-Wind (Black Madam)
-Over Technology (Kanna)
-Weather (Hatfield)

High

-Kandata String (Kafka)
-Boulder Avalanche (Zakard)

Middle

-Pressure (Rin)
-Water (Nanami)
-Land (Misaki)
-Gravitation (Seto)
-Magnetic world (Solva)
-Flame (Teruyama)

Low

-Scan (Disk)
-Black Attraction (Kurumi)

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Old 2009-12-08, 17:01   Link #2183
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where did you get the list (thought you said hatfield wasnt a missing link)
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Old 2009-12-08, 17:07   Link #2184
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I've made it myself. Hatfield was Missing Link in the end, because he has control over the weather. The lasers he shot at BQ and the big black moustache guy were lasers made with the energy of the sun. He can also create a shield, shape the water in many forms, etc.
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Old 2009-12-08, 18:28   Link #2185
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http://imaikami.cool.ne.jp/needless2.html

A recopilation of the story per arcs.

Take a good look at the St. Rose arc info. Notice it says something about Needless 1.5.?
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Old 2009-12-08, 18:31   Link #2186
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http://imaikami.cool.ne.jp/needless2.html

A recopilation of the story per arcs.

Take a good look at the St. Rose arc info. Notice it says something about Needless 1.5.?
yes that it uses characters from needless 1.5 (well character) that wasnt an issue at this point
also the next arc in kanna darts and ishira

funny about that guide it considers all the arcs their own chapters before the pf blast including chapter 6 which was only two actual chapters. But everything since has been labled under chapter seven as Cruz's quest to find blade, which he just did.
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Old 2009-12-08, 18:42   Link #2187
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It also states chapter 51 begins Needless part 2 of Needless 1 (damn, what a mess of names).

It's funny because chapter 64 was published 11 months ago but it has been updated just recently.
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Old 2009-12-08, 18:44   Link #2188
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It also states chapter 51 begins Needless part 2 of Needless 1 (damn, what a mess of names).

It's funny because chapter 64 was published 11 months but it has been updated just recently.
Well you know hes busy, writing the manga. Maybe in another year he'll update the site to say that chapter 7 is completed and tell us what chapter eight is called.

But anyway I just love those first two chapters 51-52 the origin of Mio's bunny, they were perfect. I think Mio started that chapter well, adventure start!
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Old 2009-12-08, 18:50   Link #2189
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You know what would be the shit now? That the development about Eve and Saten had something to do with the missing byakugou. That would be a great way to end the year.

Who knows, maybe Saten made contact with Gido? If someone knows the wherabouts of the stone, it shoud be only him.

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Old 2009-12-08, 19:33   Link #2190
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actually i too thought it was possible that Gido would reappear with Saten, but more as part of the Saten and Kouji are the same person hypothesis
Well hopefully the next chapter will give more insight on who that guy is and why he's doing what he's doing.

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Old 2009-12-08, 19:42   Link #2191
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If Saten really was that scientist, he should know too what happened during the Eve project.

But it turns the anime ate the part where Saten talks about the missing byakugou

But I hope he's made somehow a contact with Gido, because that would raise the probability Teruyama is with the old man.
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Old 2009-12-08, 19:47   Link #2192
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indeed but it also eats the momment where Saten experiences uncharacteristic shock at seeing Eve up close for the first time, instead it just moves to where he whispers just go along with it.
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Old 2009-12-08, 19:52   Link #2193
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About Eve, there's something that has been bothering me all the time. Why her Doppelganger needs so many calories in order for her to use it's powers? Not a single needless apart from her has these type of problems with his/her fragment.
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Old 2009-12-08, 19:53   Link #2194
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that is definately one of those things where i have to say the answer is: Thats just how it is for some reason.

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Old 2009-12-08, 20:07   Link #2195
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Since even Blade's personality changes have an explanation, I would say yes, there's to be some internal or external factor wich is the cause Eve's Doppelganger requires so many calories.

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Old 2009-12-08, 20:13   Link #2196
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Maybe biologically derived fragments have more biological limitations than ones derived from The Second?
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Old 2009-12-08, 20:26   Link #2197
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A bit new to Needless here but i've seen the anime and had a question about Cruz. I haven't seen the raws yet but i read that Cruz has a fragment called ultima which involves the power of light. Does he uses this power often? Or doesn't he know how to use this power yet?

edit: Some here don't believe it when i browsed through this thread, is the information wrong on wiki?
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Old 2009-12-08, 20:35   Link #2198
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No, the light fragment is just a fanmade rumor.
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Old 2009-12-08, 20:37   Link #2199
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^ Ah, thanks for clearing that up
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Old 2009-12-08, 22:25   Link #2200
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Originally Posted by _kurusu_ View Post
Needless fragment classification by level:

Missing Link

-Zero (Blade, Arclight...)
-Doppelganger (Eve)
-Kandata String (Kafka)
-Bermuda Athport (Uten)
-Power (Mio)
-Speed (Setsuna)
-Fragance (Kuchinashi)
-Psichokinesis (Ruri)
-The Fourth Wave (Saten)
-Agni Schiwatas (Aruka)
-Wind (Black Madam)
-Over Technology (Kanna)
-Weather (Hatfield)

High

-Boulder Avalanche (Zakard)

Middle

-Pressure (Rin)
-Water (Nanami)
-Land (Misaki)
-Gravitation (Seto)
-Magnetic world (Solva)
-Flame (Teruyama)

Low

-Scan (Disk)
-Black Attraction (Kurumi)
Thanks for the list. Seems interesting looking at how some of these are tangable fragments (water, land, etc.) and some are unique (Black Attraction, Agni Schiwatas). Be interesting to make a list to see which ones have been used the most in the manga. I'd guess Flame and Speed are 1 and 2.
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