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Old 2009-10-12, 11:09   Link #361
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I can only imagine Cruz getting some sort of power, but the price is that when he uses it (and if it's strong enough), it makes him go berserk...
As far as I know, the only person who suffers a side effect from power use is Eve, but then that's because its more of a requirement.
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Old 2009-10-12, 11:33   Link #362
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What if Cruz has power like KAMIKAZE(FFVIII) that Kill enemy in one blow but cost his owns life.

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Old 2009-10-12, 12:42   Link #363
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Maybe Cruz is like ShinGetter green ultima lights then SHIN SHINE SPARK!!! energy is drained though a sure kill.
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Old 2009-10-13, 08:01   Link #364
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What if the "BLADE" that came down from the sky is not Blade or Eve, but the Adam Blade-girl. Maybe Cruz is only having an imagination he's in pants or probably most she's wearing pants.
The guy at the end of chapter 71 is obviously a male. Whats with the recent discussion about Cruz having powers anyways? He still can own people using his brains.

The fight against hatfield is just too overwhelming for his side, you can't blame him for losing against someone who can control something as powerful as weather.
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Old 2009-10-13, 09:50   Link #365
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The guy at the end of chapter 71 is obviously a male. Whats with the recent discussion about Cruz having powers anyways? He still can own people using his brains.

The fight against hatfield is just too overwhelming for his side, you can't blame him for losing against someone who can control something as powerful as weather.
I started it when i asked if anyone knew about what had been put on wikipedia about Cruz.
I still would like that "guy" to be a disguised eve, But we'll see in around two weeks.
So does Hatfield plan to kill Cruz or capture Cruz?
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Old 2009-10-13, 10:25   Link #366
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I started it when i asked if anyone knew about what had been put on wikipedia about Cruz.
I still would like that "guy" to be a disguised eve, But we'll see in around two weeks.
So does Hatfield plan to kill Cruz or capture Cruz?
He didn't have any plan really.
He said to Cruz that "Don't worry I won't kill you since there is an order to bring you back alive", though he didn't mention whose order is that we can assume that it's from Arclight since in EP56 he order Arka to hunt down for Cruz(due to the microchip in his pendant).

And that's become another mystery about the relationship between Cruz and the villains. If he only wants the microchip then he can order them to capture him to retrieve it(or torture him to make him spill out if he hides it). No needs yo bring Cruz back alive, so it's seem Arclight has some secret business with him.
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Old 2009-10-13, 10:26   Link #367
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The guy at the end of chapter 71 is obviously a male. Whats with the recent discussion about Cruz having powers anyways? He still can own people using his brains.
Actually, its more of Eve/Blade/Fragment user, owning people WITH the help of his brains.
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Old 2009-10-13, 10:49   Link #368
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He didn't have any plan really.
He said to Cruz that "Don't worry I won't kill you since there is an order to bring you back alive", though he didn't mention whose order is that we can assume that it's from Arclight since in EP56 he order Arka to hunt down for Cruz(due to the microchip in his pendant).

And that's become another mystery about the relationship between Cruz and the villains. If he only wants the microchip then he can order them to capture him to retrieve it(or torture him to make him spill out if he hides it). No needs yo bring Cruz back alive, so it's seem Arclight has some secret business with him.
I thought they had the microchip their missing some codes to unlock it. But i agree about the thing between Cruz and arclight (mentioned my reasons for it already)
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Old 2009-10-13, 11:22   Link #369
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Maybe Arclight needs Blade for his body and Cruz for his brains?
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Old 2009-10-14, 03:53   Link #370
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Arclight... needs a new body...Now he needs a brain? lol

Seriously I want to see the next chapter ASAP!!!
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Old 2009-10-14, 07:03   Link #371
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lol...how he change a brain then?
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Old 2009-10-14, 07:06   Link #372
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And that's become another mystery about the relationship between Cruz and the villains. If he only wants the microchip then he can order them to capture him to retrieve it(or torture him to make him spill out if he hides it). No needs yo bring Cruz back alive, so it's seem Arclight has some secret business with him.
Arclight probably do not want to risk anything by having Cruz killed without first confirming whether the data chip is with him or hidden somewhere else. Theres also the possiblitiy of only Cruz knowing the password to decipher the data chip or using his fingerprint or DNA to open the data chip. Thus if i am Arclight, i would hold back on killing Cruz until i have gotten the data inside the chip.
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Old 2009-10-14, 07:48   Link #373
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Even if Cruz dies,just an example, he'll probably be cloned by Arclight, though I think Saten has will play a key role here to link Blade, Arclight and Cruz.
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Old 2009-10-14, 08:20   Link #374
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Arclight is enoughly intelligent, I don't think he needs Cruz's brain
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Old 2009-10-14, 09:06   Link #375
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Arclight probably do not want to risk anything by having Cruz killed without first confirming whether the data chip is with him or hidden somewhere else. Theres also the possiblitiy of only Cruz knowing the password to decipher the data chip or using his fingerprint or DNA to open the data chip. Thus if i am Arclight, i would hold back on killing Cruz until i have gotten the data inside the chip.
Thats possible too, but seems unlikely to me, as the resistance leader snuck it to Cruz without Cruz even knowing he had it, how would they get his DNA as a lock for it. (could have taught him the password without him knowing though) I like the Cruz more deeply connected to the bad guys hypothesis better. however, the truth it will probably be another twelve or so chapters (a full year from now) before we know exactely what the truth is.

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Old 2009-10-14, 09:17   Link #376
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Thats possible too, but seems unlikely to me, as the resistance leader snuck it to Cruz without Cruz even knowing he had it, how would they get his DNA as a lock for it. (could have taught him the password without him knowing though) I like the Cruz more deeply connected to the bad guys hypothesis better. however, the truth it will probably be another twelve or so chapters (a full year from know) before we know exactely what the truth is.
C'mon, you can wait a month and more. You're a man, right?

Who knows. According to Aruka's words in the latest chapter, she wants to see if Cruz can manage himself to survive now she has made it slightly possible. Further evidence that that guy is not Blade.
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Old 2009-10-14, 10:35   Link #377
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C'mon, you can wait a month and more. You're a man, right?

Who knows. According to Aruka's words in the latest chapter, she wants to see if Cruz can manage himself to survive now she has made it slightly possible. Further evidence that that guy is not Blade.
I meant that their gonna do a lot more stuff before Cruz and friends go fight arclight again or Cruz gets captured. (in the meantime we can go back and forth on possible revelations as much as we want)
For the mystery of whether or not thats blade who dropped in thats only a week and a half away

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Old 2009-10-16, 15:27   Link #378
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I meant that their gonna do a lot more stuff before Cruz and friends go fight arclight again or Cruz gets captured. (in the meantime we can go back and forth on possible revelations as much as we want)
There's an undeniable rule in every manga. The main character is usually the last one who gets major development about background and other things related. Contrary to the characters who form the rest of the cast, the main's background is developed slowly and with small hints each time. So following that rule I wouldn't expect anything big and revealing about Cruz so soon.

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For the mystery of whether or not thats blade who dropped in thats only a week and a half away
The more I look at that part, the more I think whoever is that, he tried to copy Blade's signature entry and failed miserably. First the cross pendant. It falls before him. Then the land. While in his first appearance we can see his face with no problem, in this one from some unknown reason his face isn't shown. And finally the last part of the show. His cape covers the face making the whole entrance a fucking joke

Say, who in Needless has the worst luck when performing awesome feats just to ruin everything at the last second?
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Old 2009-10-16, 18:19   Link #379
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you think its teruyama?
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Old 2009-10-16, 21:49   Link #380
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you think its teruyama?
....I think we forgot him
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