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Old 2009-11-02, 12:53   Link #662
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It's called parallelism. Everything Blade did, now Cruz's doing. The difference of course is that Cruz is not an obssessed pervert when meeting young girls. Isn't that the trait Eve hated so much of Father?
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Old 2009-11-02, 13:13   Link #663
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It's called parallelism. Everything Blade did, now Cruz's doing. The difference of course is that Cruz is not an obssessed pervert when meeting young girls. Isn't that the trait Eve hated so much of Father?
I cant believe you did not find that funny, as for Eve its just jealousy
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Old 2009-11-02, 13:22   Link #664
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I cant believe you did not find that funny, as for Eve its just jealousy
So she too wants to get surrounded by pretty boys? I thought her dream was to learn and remember people names.

I find that funny, but don't have any need to say
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Old 2009-11-02, 13:36   Link #665
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So she too wants to get surrounded by pretty boys? I thought her dream was to learn and remember people names.

I find that funny, but don't have any need to say
No she wants Blade to only look at her
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Old 2009-11-02, 13:42   Link #666
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No she wants Blade to only look at her
Absolutely impossible request Well, if not she could always try to seduce Cruz, i mean, she has Arka-like atmosphere (as he saw her when they first met), and she's only 16.

Talking about Eve, back then she called Blade "Ishida", but she managed in the end to remember his name and Guido's.

Why I have the feeling Cruz will be the last name she'll manage to learn and remember...

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Old 2009-11-02, 15:20   Link #667
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Absolutely impossible request Well, if not she could always try to seduce Cruz, i mean, she has Arka-like atmosphere (as he saw her when they first met), and she's only 16.

Talking about Eve, back then she called Blade "Ishida", but she managed in the end to remember his name and Guido's.

Why I have the feeling Cruz will be the last name she'll manage to learn and remember...
Really because I thought he would eventually decide to discard being Cruz and embrace being Yamada. For the most (there are exceptions in Mio and Disk) the guys that call him Yamada are his friends and the guys that call him Cruz want to kill him.
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Old 2009-11-02, 15:36   Link #668
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Really because I thought he would eventually decide to discard being Cruz and embrace being Yamada. For the most (there are exceptions in Mio and Disk) the guys that call him Yamada are his friends and the guys that call him Cruz want to kill him.
And look, the name Eve gave him out of the blue is now really useful in order to hide his true identity.

Just found something interesting. In Chapter 72 it's the first time Blade uses "boku" as a pronoun to refer to himelf, the first time! He always refered to himself using "ore" and the few times he said boku, the kanji never got used as pronoun. And believe I'm not the only one who noticed that.
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Old 2009-11-02, 15:39   Link #669
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Think he will never like being Yamada, it started out as Eve's weird shortcut now its his female alterego...
Well just have to see how the story develops
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Old 2009-11-02, 15:52   Link #670
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So, I haven't been following this manga, but I've got a question, is Arka actually a bitch, or is she just pretending to be one, and she has some big motive to justify all the shit she's done?
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Old 2009-11-02, 16:17   Link #671
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So, I haven't been following this manga, but I've got a question, is Arka actually a bitch, or is she just pretending to be one, and she has some big motive to justify all the shit she's done?
We dont know, not enough about her has been revealed.
However if you have seen the anime episode it doesnt do the story justice heres what she did to him in the manga.
http://mangahelpers.com/downloads/read-online/45059/34

However recent developments have suggested theres more to her feelings towards cruz then just antagonism.
Spoiler for aruka's appearences:
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Old 2009-11-02, 18:14   Link #672
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Hmm i think it all depends on if she will be *surprised* or not when Cruzes power awakens. If she is surprised, she thought her attack at Simeon HQ would kill him 100%. If she knew somehow he has that power she would know he would survive it and come back.
Kinda difficult to explain but it can be that she wants him to be able to do things alone instead of depending on others, she was ticked off when he showed up with all those allies of him...again Cruz found people to take care of him like she used to do....
Also killing a subordanate of Hatfield is like attacking Simeon since they are the same side so i dunno what to say of it... shes just weird lol.
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Old 2009-11-02, 19:20   Link #673
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What power are you talking about? the ultima light power thing?
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Old 2009-11-02, 21:38   Link #674
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update about the ultima rumor: it is probably crap (although i do like the idea as it would run parallel with Aruka's power over heat). Now it says that it is shown that cruz has that power. I have read the entire manga numerous times and that has not happened. And you are not going to tell me that the Blade that just showed up is a light clone created by Cruz.

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Old 2009-11-02, 23:54   Link #675
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We are talking a fan-based thing here... the most power that we know of is Cruz's high potential to be some sort of reincarnation of the Second (the thing I find interesting- the Second is said to have had all the Needless powers, and yet was defeated somehow... I wonder what it was the defeated the Second and left him in the state we later see him in?)
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Old 2009-11-03, 02:33   Link #676
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Probably the nuclear bomb in WWIII when the Second fought something back then. We need a backstory of the Second more than anything else.

Also what were those other manga's that where par with needless storyline? Expect the chibi spin off of the renamed characters.
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Old 2009-11-03, 07:07   Link #677
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I don't think a nuclear bomb can do that...

A nuclear would have burn his corpse at somewhere a few thousands degree...and left without a trace

It is most likely that he give his power to the residents in Blackspot after he defeated by something...powerful...ALIEN LOL
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Old 2009-11-03, 08:59   Link #678
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The thing about that supossed light fragment is probably based on the glowing light that saved him from the PF explosion and again when he fell in the St. Rose and wakened up with no broken bones.

But to me that's not his fragment but some hidden power that gives him high resistance among other things.

As Magin said, it's highly possible his fragment is all the fragments, or to put in short words, Zero. Because both Adam and Arclight were cloned from The Second and gained the fragment inmediatly, it's highly possible.

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Kinda difficult to explain but it can be that she wants him to be able to do things alone instead of depending on others
"It can be" no, she WANTS Cruz to manage to survive the current situation by himself.

As for that subordinate she killed, that four eyes came in the inapropiate moment.

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Old 2009-11-03, 10:08   Link #679
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Shouldnt mix up Zero fragment with the others, i think the Zero is just an artificial fragment created to absorb all the fragments and thus creating the 2nd.
The real fragment like you said has all fragments. Dunno how it should be called but Zero fragment also has 2 of them so its rather odd usualy there is only 1 fragment each its unique since its the scattered power of the 2nd.
If Cruz is the unawakend 2nd or perhaps 3rd then he has all powers. The real danger would still be Adam Arclight cause if he knew this he would try to absorb all those powers from Cruz making him the new 2nd.
About his sister wanting him to survive sure i believe thats true but a lot of you see her as pure evil, when she helps out Cruz for God knows what she cant be classified as 100% the enemy.
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Old 2009-11-03, 10:31   Link #680
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Shouldnt mix up Zero fragment with the others, i think the Zero is just an artificial fragment created to absorb all the fragments and thus creating the 2nd. My theory is that when his powers were scaterred around the world, only a single powerless fragment remained inside, and that's Zero.
Actually no, because if you take a close a look, Zero with no copied fragments is the same as having no fragment. Plus, when Arclight merged with the 2nd remains, his Zero evolved. Guess why.

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About his sister wanting him to survive sure i believe thats true but a lot of you see her as pure evil, when she helps out Cruz for God knows what she cant be classified as 100% the enemy.
Of course she's evil. If she wanted she would have killed him. However, probably surprised by the fact Cruz survived the PF blast, she decided to lend him a hand. Now she wants to test him and see if he can manage to survive by himself.
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