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Old 2009-11-21, 19:12   Link #1161
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Im not saying it cant be true but not everything is literaly as it was in the bible cause there was no evil guy swallowing people with a huge belly either.
You can make theory all you want i do too but you cant just make theory fact.
it goes like this:
-Fact
-Theory
-Opinion
-Belief
And not the other way around.
Facts are Blade is like the 2nd who is like the real Christ.
Fact is Blade lost his powers.
Fact is Blad seems awkward and different from before.

Anything else is theory,opinion and belief. You cant say other people are wrong cause you fabricate lines between events that could be explained differently as well.

Blades interest in girls could simply be changing over time nothing wrong with that people change.Also the verdict could be editing choice not to use it now. Im jsut saying you shouldnt go hysterical over just a few changes. Ive seen series change massivly both in design and buildup for different reasons.
Take D Gray-man,Hitman Reborn, Bleach etc etc etc etc. Over the course of time a series runs a lot changes... id say get used to it ( if the changes arnt plot related)
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Old 2009-11-21, 19:21   Link #1162
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Not like that change affects the plot (or yes), but one thing is fact. Among all characters, only Blade changes his behaviour everytime. He did before when travelling with Seto, he did again and now he has done it one more time.

The verdict thing too. It was death penalty during his days with longer hair and normal glasses and during his days with short hair and shades, but now...

...What the hell it turned off?!

Hell, now he's even more idiot than before.

The guy with the belly that eats people, isn't that Arclight? Talk you about turning your belly into a huge mass of flesh with a big mouth.

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Old 2009-11-21, 23:17   Link #1163
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The guy with the belly that eats people, isn't that Arclight? Talk you about turning your belly into a huge mass of flesh with a big mouth.
For some reason...I felt Archlight is an idiot when he try to keep him alive by turning his lower half into a crap load of mouth...when he could just create tentacles to grab people and devour them...AND IT NOT AWESOME...(Tentacles still look a little better...)
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Old 2009-11-22, 00:45   Link #1164
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well blades core character seems to be the same
check pages 4-6 of this forum to see what people thought blade would do if he met yamada-ko, then reread chapter 72
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Old 2009-11-22, 01:14   Link #1165
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You didn't know both, Blade and Arclight, lost all their powers after clashing their forehead devices?
yes, I knew that part. I was referring to when Blade first met Cruz. Since the back story of Blade showed that he had learned both Solva/Seto powers. But when Cruz asked him what his power was he said he didn't have one yet. So I wonder what happened between those two time periods that made him forget.

I guess I can just assume that the crystal in their foreheads acts in the same concept as a computer. Once it gets overloaded and is forced to crash the result is that it has to be rebooted. Best example to explain it that I can think of. In Blade's case seems like some of his personality gets rebooted as well, but with a few more errors lol

Looking at the bible just now, interesting bit here talking about the first two sons of Adam, Cain (first) Abel (second):

Genesis 4:3 In the course of time Cain brought to the Lord an offering of the fruit of the ground. and Abel for his part brought of the firstlings of his flock, their fat portions. And the Lord had regarded for Abel and his offerings. But for Cain and his offering he had no regard.
Genesis 4:8 Cain said to his brother Abel. "Let us go out to the field." And when they were in the field, Cain rose up against his brother Abel, and killed him.

Arclight was made first, was looked on as a failure, and than went to seek revenge against them. Seems to parallel it fairly well. Since Adam (bible) was the closest man to god (like how The Second was) and his sons followed a path that the Adams are going now.

Aruka kinda reminds me of bible Eve in that she was someone who betrayed humanity and lead them to their death. Where as the Eve in the bible ate from the tree, got Adam to eat from the tree, thus making so humanity could die.

Aruka cloths seemed to have changed the most out of anyone in the series. First short pants > no panties with cloth draping front and back > string bikini underwear. I wonder whats next....

Even though Arclight lost his old powers its sure that he has regained ones like from his henchmen right?
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Old 2009-11-22, 01:42   Link #1166
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that is true. There also is a cain and abel in the needless universe in the story blackspot and needless 1.5
Spoiler for cain and abel:


As to whether or not arclight is getting his powers back, who knows but most likely. Its been seventeen chapters since we last saw arclight, I wonder if he's got his legs back yet.
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Old 2009-11-22, 01:54   Link #1167
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Maybe Arclight wants to get a hold of Eve so he can repair his lower half?
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Old 2009-11-22, 01:58   Link #1168
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Maybe Arclight wants to get a hold of Eve so he can repair his lower half?
Arclight has something similar to doppleganger (both Kafka and Utena alluded to it) (and the anime just went ahead and called it doppleganger in the fillar) The whole eating people thing was to get the calories to heal himself. He had it after loosing the other powers so he should not need Eve for healing.

References to Arclight having doppleganger ablities
http://www.onemanga.com/Needless/4/06/
http://www.onemanga.com/Needless/4/20/
http://www.onemanga.com/Needless/6/25/
http://www.onemanga.com/Needless/6/26/
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Old 2009-11-22, 02:09   Link #1169
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Or maybe we are thinking it in the opposite fashion.

Maybe the whole monster form is actually his real body, while his human form is while the ability is activated. So right now he is stuck in monster form because he cant change to his human form using that ability because he forgot it
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Old 2009-11-22, 02:11   Link #1170
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Or maybe we are thinking it in the opposite fashion.

Maybe the whole monster form is actually his real body, while his human form is while the ability is activated. So right now he is stuck in monster form because he cant change to his human form using that ability because he forgot it
It kind of looks like the mouth he used has become slush, though. Plus wouldnt he have had to absorb a monstrous amount of calories every second to keep that human form even when sleeping? Eve changes back when she falls unconcious. And that has some disturbing implications if that is the body he wound up with after absorbing the seconds remains.

http://mangahelpers.com/downloads/re...6?t=1258873946
and the next page
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Old 2009-11-22, 02:15   Link #1171
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I would kinda think the whole eating people alive would be a bit more disturbing...

Plus why is it Arclight's body still had heart and eye problems when he got The Second who's heart and eye were "fine". If they went corrupted after the joining what makes him think Blades body wouldnt have the same affect....
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Old 2009-11-22, 02:20   Link #1172
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uh i think what they mean to do is chop of blade's head and put arclight's on.
Its more for his heart and rest of body than eye i think, I'm pretty sure that machine eye can see.
Who knows what "the surgery" intails but they seem to think it will work.
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Old 2009-11-22, 02:28   Link #1173
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I wonder about the choker though, seems like it would get in the way. I wonder if it plays more of an important role than just a name tag basically.

Isn't the first rule of mad scientist to make sure they have some kinda fail safe attached to their creations just in case?
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Old 2009-11-22, 02:33   Link #1174
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I wonder about the choker though, seems like it would get in the way. I wonder if it plays more of an important role than just a name tag basically.

Isn't the first rule of mad scientist to make sure they have some kinda fail safe attached to their creations just in case?
the chockers so far are simply unremovable. If there was a failsafe wouldnt the adam project scientists have used it on arclight when he charged in and started ripping everything and everyone to shreds. Obito had enough time after realizing who it was to do so instead of following him down to where the second's body was. If there is something more it will come up later.

i repeat
Who knows what "the surgery" intails but they seem to think it will work.
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Old 2009-11-22, 02:36   Link #1175
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I just dont get why it has to be Blade's body.

I mean for a big pharmacy company I would think they could EASILY get all the information needed to find someone outside the black spot close to their body type to use. Why go after the most problamatic person when you could find a weakling who you could easily call in for a "check up"
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Old 2009-11-22, 02:47   Link #1176
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I just dont get why it has to be Blade's body.

I mean for a big pharmacy company I would think they could EASILY get all the information needed to find someone outside the black spot close to their body type to use. Why go after the most problamatic person when you could find a weakling who you could easily call in for a "check up"
Well they are both the second clones (and remember what happened to clone bodies 1-77 who got a few dsecond cells), when Arclight heard Saten say that the priest was similar to him, part of him probably (no way of proving it) suspeted who it was.

It really doesnt matter at this point: Arclight wants his body, thinks he has a means to do it, but hes in no position to get it and Blade's has "stated his objections" about it in a hands on manner, thus the story has moved on to other issues and developments, and will probably continue to do so even with blades return.
As Blade pointed out in chapter fifty Arclights goals go much further than just getting blade's body
"he wasnt really looking at me, he was looking far beyond me",
(probably having to do with the hidden names on the data chip, that cocoon thing in his building, and his belief that he's the incarnation of the late seconds will and must be restored by getting all the powers back from the hated humanity who stole them)

and now, having spent an hour giving hypothetical reasons for why something that is is I'm signing off

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Old 2009-11-22, 04:46   Link #1177
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then why does the Adam girl have the same no. choker as Blade?
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Old 2009-11-22, 05:24   Link #1178
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hmm i think its hard to predict stuff by the hand of Zero since its all concept manga. Perhaps one day some of it will be implemented into the story but not literaly.
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Old 2009-11-22, 06:48   Link #1179
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Well maybe that was just a kind of "what if" pilot episode, or parallel dimension to see how it would be if you combined eve and adam or something like that...
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Old 2009-11-22, 10:01   Link #1180
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then why does the Adam girl have the same no. choker as Blade?
I have theory about that (if that story is canon for the original).

Considering there's no way to remove the choker other than sever the head, and since there's only one unique number per choker, there should be no doubt, that's Blade's choker, wich means...

As for from where the girl was born and why her surname is Eve's, remains in doubt.
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