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Old 2009-11-23, 11:11   Link #1241
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I thought Mio bandaged him up after she found him half buried. Also what did Blade say to Cruz in that vision he had right after the blast.
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Old 2009-11-23, 11:14   Link #1242
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Im not sure what your trying to say since its rather obvious from 2 pages later they all are like wtf!. And this aint a WB cartoon... So no Rockets out of the arse or anything either.
Thats a massive hight. The only ones surviving such a fall are needless like Blade or Mio. Mio would use her strength to take the impact and Blade is basicaly half a machine with all the metal inside.
Graviton on the other hand would soften the fall or so to say he wouldnt have fallen but floated...and he smacked to the ground. Also the backpack is next to him and didnt break his fall.
This is the 2nd time Cruz apears unharmed, The Blast at Simeon and this time are the 2 times.
Previously before the Blast, when Aruka suddenly stopped when she was going to finish him off. That makes 3 times.

And take a good look at this:

http://mangahelpers.com/downloads/re...5?t=1258992758
http://mangahelpers.com/downloads/re...6?t=1258992764

You said "soften the fall", right?
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Old 2009-11-23, 11:22   Link #1243
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Lol... i just wanna see Cruz's rebirth. Perhaps a new "giga drill breaker" will be formed when this happens. I just can't imagine having him only as an observer. In the typical case, the main character would have to have the strongest fragment. But what fragment will Cruz have that rivals or surpasses the capabilities of PF Zero and Zero. Perfect Zero? lol...

Another thought: For once, I would be fine to see Cruz have a close relationship with any girl other than Eve. Who knows... she might finally stop calling him Yamada someday.
Cruz + Mio FTW...
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Old 2009-11-23, 12:20   Link #1244
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Only a needless that can thrust (himself/herself) or Disk with her assblasterlol. Anyways its not about being picky its what the author did when he drew that pallet were them 3, Kuchinashi,Setsuna & Cruz look up at the cliff...pretty darn big cliff....and you fell down there... 0 - 0
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Old 2009-11-23, 12:25   Link #1245
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Only a needless that can thrust (himself/herself) or Disk with her assblasterlol. Anyways its not about being picky its what the author did when he drew that pallet were them 3, Kuchinashi,Setsuna & Cruz look up at the cliff...pretty darn big cliff....and you fell down there... 0 - 0
After looking up, Setsuna asked him how someone with no powers (or that's what she thinks) could survive that massive fall. Kuchinashi wrote on her notebook "Whoa... So high!"
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Old 2009-11-23, 12:36   Link #1246
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Since I have yet to read the RAWs... was him surviving the cliff fall before or after Aruka attacked him? I've got half a theory here about Cruz, and I'm too lazy to try to go through the RAWs to keep forming it (I assume that the blast at Simeon was pre-Aruka attack)
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Old 2009-11-23, 12:44   Link #1247
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Since I have yet to read the RAWs... was him surviving the cliff fall before or after Aruka attacked him? I've got half a theory here about Cruz, and I'm too lazy to try to go through the RAWs to keep forming it (I assume that the blast at Simeon was pre-Aruka attack)
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uh magin
Aruka attacked Cruz in the simeon building
I think you should read all the raws before you make theories because its seems you have some of the events mixed up
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Old 2009-11-23, 12:45   Link #1248
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Since I have yet to read the RAWs... was him surviving the cliff fall before or after Aruka attacked him? I've got half a theory here about Cruz, and I'm too lazy to try to go through the RAWs to keep forming it (I assume that the blast at Simeon was pre-Aruka attack)
Both the blast and the fall from the cliff are post-Aruka attack. Also, she tried to kill him again after his resurrection.

Yeah, I know what are you going to say, and I have same thoughts
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Old 2009-11-23, 13:05   Link #1249
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wait, post-Aruka? That actually lends even more credibility to my theory...

which is that Cruz's ability only activates when he's literally about to die... shit, he's immortal! Okay, not really... but it could be a power of his
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Old 2009-11-23, 13:13   Link #1250
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wait, post-Aruka? That actually lends even more credibility to my theory...

which is that Cruz's ability only activates when he's literally about to die... shit, he's immortal! Okay, not really... but it could be a power of his
How about this. Right now he's unaware, and for that reason, everytime he thinks he's gonna die 100% (Aruka, the blast, the fall from the cliff), he unconsciously uses the most appropriate power to survive a certain death situation.
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Old 2009-11-23, 13:29   Link #1251
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What biblical character does Blade fit?

I was thinking Moses since he was someone raised in "wealth" but than had to leave and go basically live as he is now. While his brother (Arclight) takes control of the kingdom (Black Spot) and forces Blade to return to face him.

Moses is also the man who is considered the closest person to God (for Hebrews at least) and to Christians is second only to Jesus Christ himself
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Old 2009-11-23, 13:29   Link #1252
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does aruka know something about Cruz that no1 else knows? I can't believe she really meant to kill him permanently from the beginning.

Of course I could be wrong and she could have changed views in the middle. But if that was the case, Cruz should never forgive her then. How long till chapter 74? A month?
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Old 2009-11-23, 13:37   Link #1253
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does aruka know something about Cruz that no1 else knows? I can't believe she really meant to kill him permanently from the beginning.

Of course I could be wrong and she could have changed views in the middle. But if that was the case, Cruz should never forgive her then. How long till chapter 74? A month?
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Around three weeks, for thirty pages
she very much tried to kill him, but cruz is a very forgiving person having already befriended people who have tried to kill him, and he does love her. In any case the sibling versus sibling fight will probably occur in needless
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Old 2009-11-23, 13:41   Link #1254
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Some other Cruz miracle moments I noticed

Reflecting Hatfields attack while everyone else got pierced easily. Since that rain was basically a Lazar and was capable of piercing the mech, doubt his cheap fake gauntlets could block at all. Although he wasn't able to do it perfectly. But he still was even able to put up a guard.

http://mangahelpers.com/downloads/re...1?t=1259001249
(lower right area in bottom picture)

Cruz had his arm dislocated:
http://mangahelpers.com/downloads/re...4?t=1259001597

Can easily use it again next chapter good as new:
http://mangahelpers.com/downloads/re...7?t=1259001058

^its so god hard to see him as the next Christ... like that
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Old 2009-11-23, 13:50   Link #1255
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Wait, now I notice he really deflected the lasers, though not all, but even wearing arm protectors, those lasers pierced trough Kanna's GT ROBO wich is made of steel. Another miracle along the others already named.
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Old 2009-11-23, 13:52   Link #1256
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His arm healing so fast is kinda odd as well I think

I also wish their were some offensive examples, not just showing that he has a "durable" body
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Old 2009-11-23, 14:02   Link #1257
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His arm healing so fast is kinda odd as well I think
No, it's not healed, that's just Cruz in Blade's vision.

Here you can see it's broken yet.

Spoiler for Ch 72:


But that Cruz deflected some lasers, that's fact.

About offensive examples, up until now all the situations were he could die, defensive powers were required.
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Old 2009-11-23, 14:06   Link #1258
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No, it's not healed, that's just Cruz in Blade's vision.

Here you can see it's broken yet.

Spoiler for Ch 72:


But that Cruz deflected some lasers, that's fact.

About offensive examples, up until now all the situations were he could die, defensive powers were required.
I think it just grazed him due to the arm protector being in the right spot (notice its bouncing on the plate) we dont know what its made off.
and it cleary didnt work fully
http://mangahelpers.com/downloads/read-online/55164/12
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Old 2009-11-23, 14:14   Link #1259
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I think it just grazed him due to the arm protector being in the right spot (notice its bouncing on the plate) we dont know what its made off.
and it cleary didnt work fully
http://mangahelpers.com/downloads/read-online/55164/12
Were talking about water that could do this...

http://mangahelpers.com/downloads/re...7?t=1259001058

And his arm guards were made from:

http://mangahelpers.com/downloads/re...6?t=1259003615

What does it say on them? looks like it was a fruit box or something. But regardless the only ones who were able to deflect it were Needless. This is honestly I think one of the most concrete example that Cruz is more than just a normal person.
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Old 2009-11-23, 14:17   Link #1260
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I think it just grazed him due to the arm protector being in the right spot (notice its bouncing on the plate) we dont know what its made off.
and it cleary didnt work fully
http://mangahelpers.com/downloads/read-online/55164/12
As I said, Kanna's robot is made of a material as hard or harder than those arm protectors. Logically it would have pierced through it, but that's Cruz we are talking about. An the arm protectors are made of something that's clearly not hard material enought to deflect rain lasers.
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