Macross Mecha, Weapons, and Technology

[grss1982]

Originally Posted by Tak

Episode 9 confirmed a couple things:

Mikhail's sniper rifle appears to be a rail gun.

The macro/micro process is only a few seconds!

- Tak

Speaking of Sniper Rifles:

Spoiler:

http://i30.tinypic.com/ip7dys.jpg

VF-171 can use it too???

[SymphonicRain]

Seeing the gun is slug based as it uses magazine instead of power reactor connected to your typical MS, I see why not.

The only thing it requires to work would be a compatible user interface in the cockpit for the pilot to operate.

[Wild Goose]

Hmmmm. On the other hand Mikhail's gunpod had variable strength settings, which you can't get with a projectile weapon... unless it's a railgun.

Well we know that Valk gunpods do derive their power from the Valk's reactors in some way, so I don't see how it couldn't be applied to a railgun sniper rifle. In fact with railguns we'd get the whole variable power output since the railgun fires the slug faster depending on how much power is poured into it.

[squaresphere]

I don't know how accurate the source is but the Macross Mecha Manual states the maker of the VF-25 as the Frontier based L.A.I.

http://www.new-un-spacy.com/macrossf/vf-25f.htm

[grss1982]

BTW, I think the VF-27 also has a knife.

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[encia]

Originally Posted by Tak

^ It can also enlarge food!

Can anyone say... organic?

- Tak

Make sure they are the expensive “free range type”...

[Tabris]

Giant eggs anybody?

Also, Macross needs more strange animals like Chickenpigs.

[dahak]

Originally Posted by Wild Goose

Hmmmm. On the other hand Mikhail's gunpod had variable strength settings, which you can't get with a projectile weapon... unless it's a railgun.

Other than a Railgun you could get variable strength settings with liquid propellant [by varying the amount or mix injected into the breech] or a coilgun. Or by using variable numbers of seperate solid propellant charges al la world war 2 battleships. Or partialy loading a Pirquet gun [like the V-3 Hochdruckpumpe] would dial down muzzle velocity.

You could also do it with a steam or airgun but I seriously doubt thier practicality for this purpose.

[Wild Goose]

Originally Posted by dahak

Other than a Railgun you could get variable strength settings with liquid propellant [by varying the amount or mix injected into the breech] or a coilgun. Or by using variable numbers of seperate solid propellant charges al la world war 2 battleships. Or partialy loading a Pirquet gun [like the V-3 Hochdruckpumpe] would dial down muzzle velocity.

You could also do it with a steam or airgun but I seriously doubt thier practicality for this purpose.

I'd forgotten totally about coilguns, which is kinda sad, seeing as how I'm a Halo fan Yeah, that could work... my idea of railguns is pretty much because we know that the UN Spacy has railgun tech on their capships and the Konig Monster, so it's not impossible that in 50 years they've managed to shrink it to Valk size. Liquid propellant could work but seems a bit too much trouble; the gun's intended to operate on the fly with quick adjustment between hi-power and low-power; while the variable numbers of solid propellant charges could work, it also seems too much trouble.

Coilgun or railgun it is. Both are equally possible, though I'd lean to the railgun since we know that the Macross verse has had railgun tech for at least 50 years.

[4Tran]

Originally Posted by SymphonicRain

Seeing the gun is slug based as it uses magazine instead of power reactor connected to your typical MS, I see why not.

The only thing it requires to work would be a compatible user interface in the cockpit for the pilot to operate.

Valkyrie hand-held weapons have always been self-contained units, so they should be usable for anything with the proper manipulators and targeting software.

[Wild Goose]

In real life this is pretty much the case; generally all US airfract can use any air-launched weapons, so long as it fits on the launcher rail or hardpoint, and there's the software for it.

[ReddyRedWolf]

Can someone please tell me how and why are these two using ordinace for lighting smokes?

[Tak]

Why not?

Considering that Valkyrie will soon enter battle, using just one shell to light a cig won't decide if the battle will be won or lost

- Tak

[glyph]

Originally Posted by ReddyRedWolf

Can someone please tell me how and why are these two using ordinace for lighting smokes?

Muzzle flash?

I actually felt bad for Quamzin in that scene, sold down the river by his own people for smokes.
Too bad the lifestyle didn't work out for him.

[Haesslich]

Originally Posted by glyph

Muzzle flash?

I actually felt bad for Quamzin in that scene, sold down the river by his own people for smokes.
Too bad the lifestyle didn't work out for him.

Well, given how Quamzin's other people ended up, I think this guy got a pretty good deal. It was either death-by-Macross Cannon, Death by Backstabbing, or Death by Suicide Bomber for the rest of them. Selling him out for smokes and the possibility of a happy life seems like a pretty good deal to me, as long as he didn't go along with the Megaroad-01 expedition.

[aldw]

How do the Zentraedi liquid-plasma weapons compare in overall effectiveness with slug-throwers like those equipped on the VF units?

[Wild Goose]

We had a discussion about this a few pages back; generally to sum it up since it's 7.57 am here and I slept at 1 am (yay night shift closing and fucklong drive home), liquid-cooled plasma weapons have higher power per shot as compared to valk gunpod shells. Gunpods however have a higher rate of fire, beating out Quead beam gatlings, and due to the weird physics of armor penetration, have better AP properties than zent beam weapons. Note Mikhail's railgun sniper rifle and how effective it is, or how Alto & co's gunpods have a higher rate of fire compared to the Quead Rea beam gatlings (remember, even if the amount of glowy shots put out is the same, that means that the gunpods will be firing more shells than the beam gatlings, because the usual mix of tracer to ammo is 1:4. Assuming Kawamori isn't using the old US Navy mix of 1:9).

On the other hand, so long as your reactor holds and you practice trigger control, you're not likely to run outta ammo for a while with beam guns.

[Prongs]

what about Zentrandi Wepons on Ep 4. Its look more superior than Queadluun-Raus Back Cannon. and why it compatible with Valkyrie

[Haesslich]

Originally Posted by Prongs

what about Zentrandi Wepons on Ep 4. Its look more superior than Queadluun-Raus Back Cannon. and why it compatible with Valkyrie

As far as I can tell, that was a liquid-plasma cannon, and the Quealdunn-Rau was using Zentradi weapons as well.

[Tak]

Originally Posted by Prongs

what about Zentrandi Wepons on Ep 4. Its look more superior than Queadluun-Raus Back Cannon. and why it compatible with Valkyrie

It is not 'compatible' per se, but it does have a trigger-mechanism. This meant, all the Valkyrie had to do was to pick up the weapon, and squeeze the trigger. The Valkyrie did not have to hard-wire the weapon or anything, it was an independent weapon system.

- Tak