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Old 2009-07-14, 15:27   Link #20881
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i didnt mean earn in terms of what she did
i ment what she WENT THROUGH
it really SUCKED to be her in the second half of R2
To be fair the second half of R2 wasn't easy on most of the characters or the viewers.
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Old 2009-07-14, 15:29   Link #20882
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Being in a wall-ass-jail and having Gino being all "hi hu ha hur" around her and her not being able to kick him to stfu? Yep, sucks to be R2-11-17-turns Kallen. True story.
actually THAT, was the NICE part
her life AFTER she got out of jail, is arguably much WORSE
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Old 2009-07-14, 15:31   Link #20883
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actually THAT, was the NICE part
her life AFTER she got out of jail, is arguably much WORSE

Blade, you know i love you, but try not to be Var-ish all the time and try to lighten up a little. 8D
Btw, Turn 10 was jizz-in-my-pants for Kallen. I mean, come on, did you see her face when Lelouch was yelling that he shall save her and stuff? She totally jizzed in the uniform, {climax was when she said "Lelouch he.."} true-storyx2. At least, the girl had some sexual encounters, cause we all know that Lelouch's voice-in the Zero uniform, turns her on. Come on. 8D
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Old 2009-07-14, 15:54   Link #20884
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All right, I know no one's arguing against this and the recent posts have only reinforced the idea, but does THIS...



...look like a victim to you?
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Old 2009-07-14, 15:59   Link #20885
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she did during the ep BEFORE that one
you know, the one where she was presented with a choice to either
1)betray lelouch so suzaku can kill him
2)be injected against her will with the same drug that almost destroyed her mother's mind, and THEN betray lelocuh under the effect of the drug

kallen is not a victim, nor does she act like one
but like i said
sucks to be her
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Old 2009-07-14, 16:01   Link #20886
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Blade, you know i love you, but try not to be Var-ish all the time and try to lighten up a little. 8D
Btw, Turn 10 was jizz-in-my-pants for Kallen. I mean, come on, did you see her face when Lelouch was yelling that he shall save her and stuff? She totally jizzed in the uniform, {climax was when she said "Lelouch he.."} true-storyx2. At least, the girl had some sexual encounters, cause we all know that Lelouch's voice-in the Zero uniform, turns her on. Come on. 8D
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Old 2009-07-14, 16:03   Link #20887
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All right, I know no one's arguing against this and the recent posts have only reinforced the idea, but does THIS...



...look like a victim to you?
But Kallen is not a victim. {only when she roleplays this, when Lelouch and her want to have boy-dominant sex. And we all know, that after the cart-theory, if Lulu is alive, he is under her bed, come on.} She is just, the victim of fucking unlucky events.
She never acted as a victim, she was born a fighter. Once a fighter, always a fighter. Look at my girl, in Stage 12, being all "what? you want to torture me? kill me? go on ahead with it." I was like "why so epic-gar girl, why? <33 "

Yeah.
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Old 2009-07-14, 16:08   Link #20888
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But Kallen is not a victim. {only when she roleplays this, when Lelouch and her want to have boy-dominant sex
lmao made my day


And probably my night.
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Old 2009-07-14, 16:11   Link #20889
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But Kallen is not a victim. {only when she roleplays this, when Lelouch and her want to have boy-dominant sex. And we all know, that after the cart-theory, if Lulu is alive, he is under her bed, come on.} She is just, the victim of fucking unlucky events.
She never acted as a victim, she was born a fighter. Once a fighter, always a fighter. Look at my girl, in Stage 12, being all "what? you want to torture me? kill me? go on ahead with it." I was like "why so epic-gar girl, why? <33 "

Yeah.
awesome post is awesome
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Old 2009-07-14, 16:14   Link #20890
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awesome post is awesome
Story of my life. 8D

Vlad, in response to yours:


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Old 2009-07-14, 16:19   Link #20891
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Story of my life. 8D

Vlad, in response to yours:


Spoiler for the true dialogue was cut cause ah, too much canon:
I can't describe how much I lol'd at the last line . It doesn't get funnier than that.
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I can't describe how much I lol'd at the last line . It doesn't get funnier than that.
Haha, i loled so hard when i was making this, my little sis came and tell me to stfu. As you have seen, my little siblings have inherited my fierce personality, why yes.

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Alright, srsly, if someone would watch this scene without dub, it could totally go like this::

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Old 2009-07-14, 16:49   Link #20893
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Haha, i loled so hard when i was making this, my little sis came and tell me to stfu. As you have seen, my little siblings have inherited my fierce personality, why yes.

ETA:

Alright, srsly, if someone would watch this scene without dub, it could totally go like this::

LOL

Lelouch just needs practice Kallen, give him a break XD


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Old 2009-07-14, 16:51   Link #20894
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LOL

Lelouch just needs practice Kallen, give him a break XD


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ROFL

And this is when we say "and this, is how, it's DONE." to quote Chandler from FRIENDS. rofl, i love you Vlad, i do, haha. That was epic.
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Old 2009-07-14, 16:54   Link #20895
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and you notice that her breasts inflate when she sees his picture
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Old 2009-07-14, 16:56   Link #20896
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and you notice that her breasts inflate when she sees his picture
Rofl that just makes it better


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ROFL

And this is when we say "and this, is how, it's DONE." to quote Chandler from FRIENDS. rofl, i love you Vlad, i do, haha. That was epic.
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Old 2009-07-14, 17:40   Link #20897
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LOL

Lelouch just needs practice Kallen, give him a break XD


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Oh, gawd. XD This is awesome.
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Old 2009-07-14, 18:28   Link #20898
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LOL

Lelouch just needs practice Kallen, give him a break XD


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Lol, that's an epic win spoiler.

That sounds like something Kallen would say.
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Old 2009-07-14, 23:22   Link #20899
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Oh man, when you guys get going you just...LOL, all of that was just epic XD
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Old 2009-07-15, 02:13   Link #20900
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Oh man, when you guys get going you just...LOL, all of that was just epic XD
All I can say is I agree.

As for what Kallen has gone through (sorry to be the downer) the tidbits we know of from her life don't paint a terribly idealistic picture.

She grew up in a single parent household, and it can be assumed that her social life outside of her family consisted of anything from simple ostracization to being a frequent victim of assault...and these will be the best years of her life.

She watches her people get slaughtered and subjugated at the age of ten, and eventually her family as well, and we know her closeness to her brother was enough for her to want Suicide by Cop when he died. Her mother seemed to abandon her, only to live under the same roof as her and another woman who accused Kallen of being a whore to her face and in front of her friends. All while she has to lie about her very identity just to maintain this false "better life" that her brother wanted her to have.

When she finally learns that her mother loves her, it is only after Kallen learns that she is addicted to a drug that has made her a near vegetable, and it was basically her fault for causing this and not noticing it earlier. A thirty second conversation would have averted all of this, but Kallen was too stubborn to take the first step.

A few weeks later, she inadvertantly kills one of her best friend's parents.

She watches the SAZ massacre and then learns that her idol, a guy she saw as the realization of her brother's dream, was using her from day one. She then abandons him and for all she knows, plays a hand not in the liberation of her people, but in the failure of that very attempt.

She then goes on to learn that her hero, on top of using her, may have mindraped her into holding the lingering devotion she still had for him just like he caused the entire SAZ massacre (and she can only hope it really was an accident), all while being a known fugitive for a year, and unable to contact her mother, and believing that her friends hate her guts (especially if Milly's response to seeing her unmask herself was any indication).

Then there's the "comfort me" scene...Sure, sure maybe it meant that deep down Lelouch saw her as something more, but at the moment it told Kallen that her hero...her idol...her one chance to realize her brother's dream, to give his and her lives any real meaning, and free her people from suffering and misery was just a selfish kid who still saw her as a thing...a thing to use and discard at his own convenience.

Out of the entire cast, I honestly think that C.C. is the only character who has definately suffered more than Kallen (I'm not 100% on where I put Lelouch and Suzaku in relation to Kallen)
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