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Old 2008-07-30, 15:22   Link #3441
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Ah, indeed he did. I imagine those had to be fairly darkened, though. Lelouch has Geassed helmeted soldiers with no trouble.
Since when? If you're thinking about Episode 1 of R2, those guys weren't wearing helmets and their eyes were exposed.
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Old 2008-07-30, 16:27   Link #3442
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You're right, my mistake. Those are just hats.
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Old 2008-07-30, 16:28   Link #3443
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back to actual topic

how do we know that kallen would stay by lulu's side
Spoiler for spoilers:

i really hope she does stay beside him (since he'd need her more then ever)
but the spoilers themselves dont actually say it
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Old 2008-07-30, 16:31   Link #3444
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She will, because someone other than those with blind loyalty to Lelouch/Zero has to. They wouldn't do all this bonding with Nunnally if they intended to have her ditch him.
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Old 2008-07-30, 16:32   Link #3445
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And does 'the only Order member with no intent to betray him' not sound clear enough all of a sudden?
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Old 2008-07-30, 16:34   Link #3446
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big difference between betrey (active) and leave (passive)
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Old 2008-07-30, 16:36   Link #3447
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Not in this case. Where's she going to "leave" to? It's not like her ridiculously tricked-out Guren is going to blend in with the crowd, and if she doesn't go with the Black Knights she'll have nowhere at all to go to. She'll stick with Lelouch, of that you can be more or less certain.
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Old 2008-07-30, 16:38   Link #3448
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Well, it's true enough that the spoilers say that she is the only one to not betray him, but the spoilers also say nothing about her not leaving him. If Lelouch lies to push her away or th elike, then her leaving him is technocally not betraying him, it's Lelouch pushing her away, sorta.

There's also the part of the spoiler that mentions Jeremiah becoming Lelouch's personal guard which hasn't hapened yet and this is a small worry on my part, since his personal guard so far has always been.. Kallen.

Still, I suppose they could pull a Noin (GW character) with Kallen...
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Old 2008-07-30, 16:40   Link #3449
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Mind quoting that part of that spoiler here, Kichiku?
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Old 2008-07-30, 16:42   Link #3450
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Not in this case. Where's she going to "leave" to?
Well, good point I suppose, because if she doesn't join the "other" OotBK, then where can she go indeed? I suppose joining Nunnally could be an alternative though, but, well...
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Old 2008-07-30, 16:44   Link #3451
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Oh, come on, Turn 18's when the new Guren shows up in proper. To kill Kallen off in the midst of one of her grandest moments, just after she's finally come back to the battlefield, is utterly stupid. If you refer to the Freya, it gets used in Turn 19, according to recent Animage or Animedia episode summaries.
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Old 2008-07-30, 16:47   Link #3452
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Mind quoting that part of that spoiler here, Kichiku?
Okay. From the spoilers:

Spoiler for korean blog spoilers:


And no, no, you misunderstand! I was talking about Nunnally there, not Kallen!
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Old 2008-07-30, 16:51   Link #3453
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Aah.

Well, spoilers say her status will be 'unknown' after the attack, so...
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Old 2008-07-30, 17:03   Link #3454
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If you refer to the Freya, it gets used in Turn 19, according to recent Animage or Animedia episode summaries.
According to this: http://koshimizu.livejournal.com/3953.html#cutid1 episode 18 seems more likely, though one line for the summary for 19
Spoiler for episode 19:


seems like a possible hint as well.

And, yes "unknown", which means that if she'd dead or gone, Kallen can't join her indeed... <_<.
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Old 2008-07-30, 17:37   Link #3455
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Well, it's true enough that the spoilers say that she is the only one to not betray him, but the spoilers also say nothing about her not leaving him. If Lelouch lies to push her away or th elike, then her leaving him is technocally not betraying him, it's Lelouch pushing her away, sorta.
You realize the entire idea of her leaving him is contradicted by what the spoilers originally say about Kallen, right?
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There's also the part of the spoiler that mentions Jeremiah becoming Lelouch's personal guard which hasn't hapened yet and this is a small worry on my part, since his personal guard so far has always been.. Kallen.
Kallen has never been his personal guard, she is the captain of Zero's Personal Squad. She's been his Queen, fine enough, but all the pieces around the King server to guard him. If anything, Jeremiah, the Rook, is the true guard on the King. This does not diminish her role.

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Still, I suppose they could pull a Noin (GW character) with Kallen...
Ya... no....

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big difference between betrey (active) and leave (passive)
Kallen will betray the Order, and leave Japan behind for Lelouch. The difference is outstanding, but irrelevant as both will occur.
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Old 2008-07-30, 17:51   Link #3456
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actually var
your wrong about kallen not being his guard
she was his bodyguard at the wedding party
she even had to actually step in and defened him from nina
since kaguya was the one invited and she took zero as a date ()
kallen's presence there could only be viewed as his bodyguard
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Old 2008-07-30, 17:53   Link #3457
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actually var
your wrong about kallen not being his guard
she was his bodyguard at the wedding party
she even had to actually step in and defened him from nina
since kaguya was the one invited and she took zero as a date ()
kallen's presence there could only be viewed as his bodyguard
Fine, but that's a bodyguard, not personal guard. Personal guard is a devoted title, bodyguard is, as in the example, a one time occurrence. Kallen can be Lelouch's body guard in bed, let Jeremiah be his personal royal guard.
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Old 2008-07-30, 17:55   Link #3458
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Fine, but that's a bodyguard, not personal guard. Personal guard is a devoted title, bodyguard is, as in the example, a one time occurrence. Kallen can be Lelouch's body guard in bed, let Jeremiah be his personal royal guard.
i can live with that
just so long as its in that format and not (god help us)
the other way around
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Old 2008-07-30, 17:55   Link #3459
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Somehow I doubt guarding is what she'd be doing.
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Old 2008-07-30, 17:57   Link #3460
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Somehow I doubt guarding is what she'd be doing.
Lelouch would likely be on the guard, she'd be the one on the offensive. The more this gets brought up, the more I want to see it happen for the lulz of Lelouch cowering in fear.
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