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Old 2008-08-18, 11:48   Link #5081
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I don't understand the bluff about Shneizel about Morderd being equiped with Freya!?
I mean he was with them in the ship, if Anya fire Freya (assuming she has freya mounted on her KMF) so everyone will be dead now...
If they killed Schneizel and his men, Anya wouldn't need to care if everyone died.
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Old 2008-08-18, 15:02   Link #5082
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You know, the Kallen discussion always gets off topic.
Yeah, that seems to happen a lot for some reason.
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That's because Kallen hasn't got much to talk about as of late. There is only so much we can talk about her piloting, and her romantic plot is going slowly. Hopefully all that will change next week.
I don't know if I would use the term slowly. More like a crash test dummy. Moves fast and suddenly. Only to meet a sudden and jarring stop.
I don't know what could happen to speed things up with those two in next weeks episode. Lelouch is out doing whatever the hell is he has planned. Kallen wont know where to look and we still don't know how she's going to act around the Black Knights. She's now with young C.C. Another person who can talk about his kind side.
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actually
in terms of romance you could say that this ep was a freakin leap
she actually confesed her feelings to him (in a pretty big way)
and she asked him about his feelings for her
and in a way she did get an answer (even if they need another talk to clear up what that answer was)
That was pretty powerful. She pretty much aid she was wiling to die with him. If nothing goes with this all these great scenes will feel like crap. He could of let her walk away hating him, but it's like he wanted her to know the truth before he died.
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lol I hope that this "curse" won't happen when she gets married.

Ex: Kallen and Lelouch in bed.

Shuffle shuffle..

C.C. comes in: "Where is my ketchup?"

Kallen: WTF C.C. we are in the middle of se--.. (Blushes and covers herself)
You forgot to add. C.C. pulls out a digital camera.
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Old 2008-08-18, 15:04   Link #5083
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If they killed Schneizel and his men, Anya wouldn't need to care if everyone died.
But they wouldn't be stupid enough to kill them. At least I don't think. They could have taken them hostage. Would Anya still use FREIJA then?
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Old 2008-08-18, 15:06   Link #5084
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That was pretty powerful. She pretty much aid she was wiling to die with him. If nothing goes with this all these great scenes will feel like crap. He could of let her walk away hating him, but it's like he wanted her to know the truth before he died.
Yep. It was a touching scene. Btw, the literal translation was "i want you to live on" or am i wrong?
And then after that Kallen was like "no don't shoot". <3

But srsly, Kallen was really willing to die with him. That was woah considering she is supposed to go on for her bro/mom's sake. It was indeed powerful.
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Old 2008-08-18, 15:09   Link #5085
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Yep. It was a touching scene. Btw, the literal translation was "i want you to live on" or am i wrong?
And then after that Kallen was like "no don't shoot". <3

But srsly, Kallen was really willing to die with him. That was woah considering she is supposed to go on for her bro/mom's sake. It was indeed powerful.
I don't know. Right now my Japanese is very basic. I'm rather dependent on subtitles I see online. I don't think I heard him use the terms for "I".
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Old 2008-08-18, 15:10   Link #5086
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I don't know. Right now my Japanese is very basic. I'm rather dependent on subtitles I see online. I don't think I hear his use the terms for "I".
there was definite;y difference in honorifics used.
But i don't know to much to be quite honest.
Just starting 8*(
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Old 2008-08-18, 15:11   Link #5087
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I don't know. Right now my Japanese is very basic. I'm rather dependent on subtitles I see online. I don't think I heard him use the terms for "I".
In Eclipse sub (one of the best I think) it"s

"kallen, you must live on."
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Old 2008-08-18, 15:13   Link #5088
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I don't know. Right now my Japanese is very basic. I'm rather dependent on subtitles I see online. I don't think I heard him use the terms for "I".
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there was definite;y difference in honorifics used.
But i don't know to much to be quite honest.
Just starting 8*(
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In Eclipse sub (one of the best I think) it"s

"kallen, you must live on."
There was no 'I' used. The honorifics changed from omae, possessive and derogatory, to a name + kimi. Saying its a 180 would be being modest. It translates to "Kallen, you must live (on)."
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Old 2008-08-18, 15:14   Link #5089
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In Eclipse sub (one of the best I think) it"s

"kallen, you must live on."
didnt eclipes translate the line in 11 as "all my possesions" when refering to kallen
not that good
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Old 2008-08-18, 15:17   Link #5090
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there was definite;y difference in honorifics used.
But i don't know to much to be quite honest.
Just starting 8*(
LOL
I'll start getting classes soon, but i think there was definitely the "kimi" which can be interpreted in many ways. Anyway, i think this has been discussed before.

Still i think this must be the most Kalulu powerful scene, more than the "Kallen tops don't interrupt me pizza". XD
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Old 2008-08-18, 15:20   Link #5091
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didnt eclipes translate the line in 11 as "all my possesions" when refering to kallen
not that good
Ya, they translated that wrong, but they are only human.
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Old 2008-08-18, 15:20   Link #5092
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Uh, blade, that was Turn 11. A lot of stuff happened between Turn 11 and 19 to make Lelouch change his opinion of Kallen. 'All of my possessions' in 11 is rather fitting for the time.
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Old 2008-08-18, 15:21   Link #5093
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Ya, they translated that wrong, but they are only human.
so which is the best in your opinion var
i think gg
but id like your input (since you seem to know more japanese then me)


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Uh, blade, that was Turn 11. A lot of stuff happened between Turn 11 and 19 to make Lelouch change his opinion of Kallen. 'All of my possessions' in 11 is rather fitting for the time.
but was that what was actually said ???
non of the other groups said that (even one of the hebrew groups i follow sometimes got it as everything i have)
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Old 2008-08-18, 15:23   Link #5094
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So you think a rather professional sub group isn't good because they mistranslated a single line...
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Old 2008-08-18, 15:26   Link #5095
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Uh, blade, that was Turn 11. A lot of stuff happened between Turn 11 and 19 to make Lelouch change his opinion of Kallen. 'All of my possessions' in 11 is rather fitting for the time.
The line wasn't said, is the problem. The correct translation is 'precious ones/things' not 'possessions'. That much is simply obvious from having Nunally listed seconds before Kallen, unless we think Lelouch's opinion of Nunally suddenly shifted to that of an object.

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so which is the best in your opinion var
i think gg
but id like your input (since you seem to know more japanese then me)
Eclipse is probably the most accurate of the groups, though I'd say watch both as both make mistakes and you can notice them when reading the subs and things start to conflict at parts.

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but was that what was actually said ???
non of the other groups said that (even one of the hebrew groups i follow sometimes got it as everything i have)
It was precious, not possessions.

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So you think a rather professional sub group isn't good because they mistranslated a single line...
No... no one said that.
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Old 2008-08-18, 15:28   Link #5096
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blade insinuiated...eh, whatever.
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Old 2008-08-18, 15:28   Link #5097
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So you think a rather professional sub group isn't good because they mistranslated a single line...
no
thats not what i said
i meant they sometimes make mistakes (everyone does)
thats all
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Old 2008-08-18, 15:29   Link #5098
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We're kind of getting off track again. LOL

The fact Lelouch added anything to her at the end was powerful. She then tried to get them to stop.
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Old 2008-08-18, 15:30   Link #5099
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We're kind of getting off track again. LOL

The fact Lelouch added anything to her at the end was powerful. She then tried to get them to stop.
Forget that, she was fully turned around when the Shinkuro landed.
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Putting aside the translation groups which are awesome btw, they are pretty fast i gotta admit and on topic, i wanna see Guren action. It's been one epi and i miss it so bad. ;__; {i think i like Guren more than Kallen herself LOL}
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