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Old 2008-09-13, 21:59   Link #10141
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Her line fits if she went to meet him, he confessed to her and dies
Her line would also fit if she went to meet him, she saves his ass from dying, and he confesses to her. I mean, think about it. It has to take her saving his life to get the confession she's been trying to get? I'd be pretty damn pissed too.
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Old 2008-09-13, 22:01   Link #10142
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We should have a betting poll on how much screen time Kallen is going to get, lol
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Old 2008-09-13, 22:02   Link #10143
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Her line would also fit if she went to meet him, she saves his ass from dying, and he confesses to her. I mean, think about it. It has to take her saving his life to get the confession she's been trying to get? I'd be pretty damn pissed too.
And than Zero's Requiem fails and the world is plunged into chaos and all hope of reunited the nations to form a peaceful coexistence is lost all because she wanted him to live, does that seem fair?
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Old 2008-09-13, 22:02   Link #10144
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Considering that this series is supposedly going to end well for Lelouch, I can't see either him or Kallen dying.
Well since we need something to talk about 'round here..and I'm feeling like advocating for the devil a bit.

I know that Lelouch will get a satisfying ending. Now this does give points to Kallen living. Since having more of his precious things dying would hardly be satisfying for Lelouch.

But it doesn't confirm his long life.
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Old 2008-09-13, 22:06   Link #10145
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Her line would also fit if she went to meet him, she saves his ass from dying, and he confesses to her. I mean, think about it. It has to take her saving his life to get the confession she's been trying to get? I'd be pretty damn pissed too.
"I don't want to be forgiven."

Well... I think I just subconsciously joined the Kalulu ship, because for some reason unknown to me, I really want Lelouch to end up saying that.
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Old 2008-09-13, 22:06   Link #10146
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And than Zero's Requiem fails and the world is plunged into chaos and all hope of reunited the nations to form a peaceful coexistence is lost all because she wanted him to live, does that seem fair?
Well, I think we're hoping that if she convinces him to live, his brillant mind will be able to come up with a solution that will allow him to live. Or the plan never really needs him to die; he was just going to do it because there would be no where left for him in the new world (with him being the world's greatest tyrant and all).

If he needs to die, I doubt Kallen would be able to stop him. But he might be honest with her at the end (hence, the gum line).

Let's just wait and see.

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Old 2008-09-13, 22:09   Link #10147
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Well, I think we're hoping that if she convinces him to live, his brillant mind will be able to come up with a solution that will allow him to live. Or the plan never really needs him to die; he was just going to do it because there would be no where left for him in the new world (with him being the world's greatest tyrant and all).

If he needs to die, I doubt Kallen would be able to stop him. But he might be honest with her at the end (hence, the gum line).

Let's just wait and see.

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He might need to die or go somewhere far for him to seal the geass
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Old 2008-09-13, 22:12   Link #10148
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And than Zero's Requiem fails and the world is plunged into chaos and all hope of reunited the nations to form a peaceful coexistence is lost all because she wanted him to live, does that seem fair?
We are talking about Kallen, Queen of the double life? Master of intrigue? Pants-wearing member of any union between her & lelouch? I'm sorry, but if she wanted Lelouch to live, he'd live the world be damned. She might just have to hide his scrawny butt somewhere so people thought he was dead

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But it doesn't confirm his long life.
While this could technically be true, I don't think the director includes his death as being part of lelouch's "satisfying ending" It would seem like splitting hairs, really.
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Old 2008-09-13, 22:12   Link #10149
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He might need to die or go somewhere far for him to seal the geass
He could gouge his eyes out!
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Old 2008-09-13, 22:17   Link #10150
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Well, I think we're hoping that if she convinces him to live, his brillant mind will be able to come up with a solution that will allow him to live. Or the plan never really needs him to die; he was just going to do it because there would be no where left for him in the new world (with him being the world's greatest tyrant and all).
I'd like to see this as well. But it seems to happy with the direction the show is heading.

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If he needs to die, I doubt Kallen would be able to stop him. But he might be honest with her at the end (hence, the gum line).

Let's just wait and see.

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You can still have the gum line and other romantic undertones right before a tragic death. There's got to be more examples of a person forced to kill a lover. I just can't recall them.

About him gouging his eyes out. Personally I wouldn't have to much of a problem with Kallen towing around a blind Lelouch.
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Old 2008-09-13, 22:17   Link #10151
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He could gouge his eyes out!
And this brings me to my idea that he could end the series blind with someone having to care for him (A reversal on how he used to have to care for nunally). Instead of being in a position to lie & be trusted upon, he will have to trust whoever cares for him and hope they do not lie to him ^^.
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It is the truth. It was more ironic double suicide, etc. etc. super duper dramatic. I mean, if it was Romeo & Juliet, it would be Lelouch dieing, and then Kallen killing herself to be with him.

And I can tell you right now, if that happened, 2ch would explode. And Taniguchi would envy Hideaki Anno for the treatment he got from his fans for the series finale for evangelion. It would simply not be pretty.
I haven't seen all the series Sunrise has ever made, but all the ones I have seen have had positive endings.
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Old 2008-09-13, 22:20   Link #10153
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He could gouge his eyes out!
I actually wrote a fanfic kinda like that, only he still only had Geass in one eye at the time so it wasn't quite as dramatic. Wouldn't it be ironic if at the end of the series, Lelouch is blind, but because Nunnally's Geass is cancelled (ya know, the one put on her by Charles), she can see.
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Old 2008-09-13, 22:21   Link #10154
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And this brings me to my idea that he could end the series blind with someone having to care for him (A reversal on how he used to have to care for nunally). Instead of being in a position to lie & be trusted upon, he will have to trust whoever cares for him and hope they do not lie to him ^^.
Maybe I'm looking too much into it, I don't think Lelouch would be totally helpless if blind. After a couple of years, he'd be fine once he adjusted.
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Old 2008-09-13, 22:23   Link #10155
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I haven't seen all the series Sunrise has ever made, but all the ones I have seen have had positive endings.
You obviously haven't seen alot of Tomino's series then, though he has changed;
He went from this:


To this:

In a span of 20 years
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Old 2008-09-13, 22:24   Link #10156
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You can still have the gum line and other romantic undertones right before a tragic death. There's got to be more examples of a person forced to kill a lover. I just can't recall them.

About him gouging his eyes out. Personally I wouldn't have to much of a problem with Kallen towing around a blind Lelouch.
There are some other ways she could say her gum line. It could seem that he's about to die and she says it, but something saves him. He could go off to do something suicidal and wants to tell Kallen something 'just in case' (but end up surviving anyway). He could leave at the end of the series and be about to confess something to Kallen before he leaves.

My point is, you don't need to have one of them die to have the line (although that would seem to be the most likely option. Then again, this show never seems to take the most likely option .)
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Fruit Punch Samurai, what series is that first one? Robotech?
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Old 2008-09-13, 22:27   Link #10158
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Fruit Punch Samurai, what series is that first one? Robotech?
Th first one is Ideon: To Be Invoked and the second one is Overman King Gainer, watch them and you'll see how different they both are in themes and endings
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Fruit Punch Samurai, what series is that first one? Robotech?
Probably Gundam... I should punch you in the face for saying Robotech
Ah it's Ideon, my bad.

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Old 2008-09-13, 22:29   Link #10160
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There are some other ways she could say her gum line. It could seem that he's about to die and she says it, but something saves him. He could go off to do something suicidal and wants to tell Kallen something 'just in case' (but end up surviving anyway). He could leave at the end of the series and be about to confess something to Kallen before he leaves.

My point is, you don't need to have one of them die to have the line (although that would seem to be the most likely option. Then again, this show never seems to take the most likely option .)
I agree and I hope you're right
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