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Old 2008-09-29, 01:14   Link #14801
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I might as well have a go, seeing as I have nothing else to do this afternoon.

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A face showing nothing

情熱隠したままで
Concealing passion/enthusiasm/zeal

押さえつけられて生きるのか
Living weighted down

奇跡手に入れるには 時に心捨てる
Throwing my heart away in obtaining this miracle

君の涙つらいけど
Though your tears are painful
and this was a few days before episode 22? well at least we know what this verse talks about...

awww man so sad..

Thank you for translating..
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Old 2008-09-29, 01:25   Link #14802
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I might as well have a go, seeing as I have nothing else to do this afternoon.

沈黙主張する顔
A face showing nothing

情熱隠したままで
Concealing passion/enthusiasm/zeal

押さえつけられて生きるのか
Living weighted down

奇跡手に入れるには 時に心捨てる
Throwing my heart away in obtaining this miracle

君の涙つらいけど
Though your tears are painful
Thanks for the translation

Well, if it had to refer to an actual scene from the anime, it is obvious from the first line that it was the kiss scene in episode 22. If I'm not mistaken, it's the only time in the anime Lelouch had "a face showing nothing".

I was really not sure about that, but now that I've seen the translation, I have to agree with Tael and dec4 that this verse points quite frankly to that said scene. I guess it just does reinforces the drama of their relationship

If only they had a real farewell scene.... (and a said gumline btw...)
But yeah, I guess I could be satisfied with these songs and the pause on the kiss during Lelouch's flashback.
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Old 2008-09-29, 01:33   Link #14803
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I might as well have a go, seeing as I have nothing else to do this afternoon.

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A face showing nothing

情熱隠したままで
Concealing passion/enthusiasm/zeal

押さえつけられて生きるのか
Living weighted down

奇跡手に入れるには 時に心捨てる
Throwing my heart away in obtaining this miracle

君の涙つらいけど
Though your tears are painful
Thank you for the translation.
And I hope we get to see the full version of One More Chance soon...

And I do want the character songs to be side material instead of consolation prizes, or else Kallen's R2 song will be sorta...delusional...
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Old 2008-09-29, 02:41   Link #14804
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These songs combined are all the more depressing. It lends all the more credit to the idea that Lelouch wished he could have had something with her, but wasn't willing to change his plan to do it.
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Old 2008-09-29, 02:53   Link #14805
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Eedo...
After rewatching the final turn over and over, is it safe to say that the main theme Kallen carried through R2 is "自分の信じた道"(the path I believe in) while the romance sub-plot mainly adds to the drama?
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Old 2008-09-29, 02:57   Link #14806
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Well he seems to care about Kallen so I am wondering if he is paying for their apartment as well. A highschool student would have a hard time paying for an apartment like that as well as living expenses and it doesn't look like her mom is up for working yet.
She knows the prime minister of Japan hellllloooooooooo

I'm sure Ougi wouldn't mind lending yen.
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Old 2008-09-29, 03:01   Link #14807
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I might as well have a go, seeing as I have nothing else to do this afternoon.

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A face showing nothing

情熱隠したままで
Concealing passion/enthusiasm/zeal

押さえつけられて生きるのか
Living weighted down

奇跡手に入れるには 時に心捨てる
Throwing my heart away in obtaining this miracle

君の涙つらいけど
Though your tears are painful
Well done, now i'm crying.

Seriously finally all this romance built in R2 was to give us this sort of tragic ending, they could have avoid, Nunally's tears were already heartbreaking.
It's unfair, now Kallen is going to live alone and finally we really realized what she leant to her only at the end...without a last confrontation.

This show is full of drama, even the romance is a drama
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Old 2008-09-29, 03:03   Link #14808
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Eedo...
After rewatching the final turn over and over, is it safe to say that the main theme Kallen carried through R2 is "自分の信じた道"(the path I believe in) while the romance sub-plot mainly adds to the drama?
In retrospect that works somewhat, though they hardly did much else with her character but build up the drama. They cover her path a little bit in Turn 2 with her saying she'll become a slave if necessary, but then it shifted to bringing her close to Lelouch. Then she's stuck in prison for eight episodes, gets a few minutes with Lelouch after coming back, followed by an unanswered question and a loaded statement before he disappears. Then there's Turn 22 which the songs cover rather depressingly, but even in 23 and 24 her focus is still on Lelouch. Turn 25 had that nice chat between her and Suzaku about the system, bringing back the path aspect, and even though she gets jack in regards to Lelouch's feelings, she at least comes to understand him at the end.
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Old 2008-09-29, 03:05   Link #14809
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Everything was going sooo fast.. it was hard to see what scenes he was thinking about before he died..
He was thinking to a lot of moments, but there were only three pause; A smiling Shirley, Kallen's kiss, and his brother, Rolo. The rest was hard to see I confirm, but not those three.

Pfff...Even if his feelings were finally sorta affirmed this is just tragic .
Lelouch and Kallen's character song...if those are canon, why did they deleted this stupid gum line; This is just illogic at this point.
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Old 2008-09-29, 03:54   Link #14810
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She knows the prime minister of Japan hellllloooooooooo

I'm sure Ougi wouldn't mind lending yen.
Kallen would make a reasonably good kickboxer.

Or a HAR pilot...
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Old 2008-09-29, 03:57   Link #14811
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He was thinking to a lot of moments, but there were only three pause; A smiling Shirley, Kallen's kiss, and his brother, Rolo. The rest was hard to see I confirm, but not those three.

Pfff...Even if his feelings were finally sorta affirmed this is just tragic .
Lelouch and Kallen's character song...if those are canon, why did they deleted this stupid gum line; This is just illogic at this point.
I wholeheartedly agree. Why was this gumline not said ? Why couldn't Kallen (and CC also btw) have at least a farewell scene?
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Old 2008-09-29, 04:48   Link #14812
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Well we had a real roller coaster ride. now we really DO know that lelouch did what was the best for her, IE, not making her follow him got rid of her association with the greatest tyrant the world have ever seen.
Somehow i do feel that they had planned something different for Kallen, as her lacking gumline shows. maybe taniguchi is rickrolling us, and hoping to have an ending that he would be satisfied with
I am just hoping that Kallen would wake up one day with a letter addressed to "Q-1" at her door.
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Old 2008-09-29, 05:03   Link #14813
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Well we had a real roller coaster ride. now we really DO know that lelouch did what was the best for her, IE, not making her follow him got rid of her association with the greatest tyrant the world have ever seen.
Somehow i do feel that they had planned something different for Kallen, as her lacking gumline shows. maybe taniguchi is rickrolling us, and hoping to have an ending that he would be satisfied with
I am just hoping that Kallen would wake up one day with a letter addressed to "Q-1" at her door.
That's actually what I thought the "Re;" would mean when I first saw Lelouch's dying scene. The gumline could have fit in such a scene.

But it didn't happen !

Oh well... Anyway I was quite satisfied in the end by the closure of Kallen's character. In the end she understood everything and that's the most important.
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Old 2008-09-29, 05:47   Link #14814
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IMPLIED make up sex. There are kids watching. Have you no shame

I don't think Sunrise cares since they had lelouch getting gutted and japanese society is more predisposed to ero-content rather than violence.
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Old 2008-09-29, 06:53   Link #14815
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and this was a few days before episode 22? well at least we know what this verse talks about...

awww man so sad..

Thank you for translating..
Me I think it talks about the tears of nunnaly during the ending
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Old 2008-09-29, 07:06   Link #14816
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Me I think it talks about the tears of nunnaly during the ending
Well, it's also plausible, since most of the other lines coincides with ZERO REQUIEM and the scenario of his death, ("Till the day I hold you and the light/brightness in my arms."), though the first verse about him reppressing his ardor in order to make miracles didn't quite fit to his last moments.
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Old 2008-09-29, 07:11   Link #14817
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Me I think it talks about the tears of nunnaly during the ending
Maybe.
But the first line (and thus the second as well, as it is the same sentence) is definitely about the face he showed to Kallen, as it was the only time he put an emotionless face. Especially if we consider it was released a few days before ep 22 aired.
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Old 2008-09-29, 07:12   Link #14818
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That's actually what I thought the "Re;" would mean when I first saw Lelouch's dying scene. The gumline could have fit in such a scene.

But it didn't happen !

Oh well... Anyway I was quite satisfied in the end by the closure of Kallen's character. In the end she understood everything and that's the most important.
They could have named the last episode "Requiem" but hey just named it "Re:". Some people will see a number of different meaning in it.

It could mean Resurrection.

And I want to believe in the LL > RR > R2 thing



So, maybe one day, she will receive a letter from a certain someone.

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Maybe.
But the first line (and thus the second as well, as it is the same sentence) is definitely about the face he showed to Kallen, as it was the only time he put an emotionless face. Especially if we consider it was released a few days before ep 22 aired.
People see what they want to see. The face who shows nothing could talk about the scene with nunnaly in the damocles. He showed her a fake face while in fact, he saved her. So he showed not his true feelings to her as well
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Old 2008-09-29, 07:14   Link #14819
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They could have named the last episode "Requiem" but hey just named it "Re:". Some people will see a number of different meaning in it.

It could mean Resurrection.

And I want to believe in the LL > RR > R2 thing

So, maybe one day, she will receive a letter from a certain someone.
LL=eru-tsu
RR=aru-tsu

That's quite different.

IMO, Kallen should get over him in a couple of years, though very unlikely...
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Old 2008-09-29, 07:15   Link #14820
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LL=eru-tsu
RR=aru-tsu

That's quite different.

IMO, Kallen should get over him in a couple of years, though very unlikely...
I thought there is no "L" in japanese
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