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Old 2009-05-10, 17:21   Link #18981
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it should say
Spoiler for better version would be:
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Old 2009-05-10, 17:22   Link #18982
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Old 2009-05-11, 22:54   Link #18983
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So... Kallen rox, right?

I know, i don't have ideas, but the thread is more dead than Naoto... I'l try to rise her fwom her gwaive with some pics that everyone already saw.

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It's disturbing, but i consider it totally canon.

And, for cuteness

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Old 2009-05-12, 03:25   Link #18984
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Hey lol, it's not like he wants C.C. to die, come on.
I mean, he was kinda pissed off at the end of 21 (who wouldn't have been ? he just learnt she knew everything and he was her and his parents puppet, nice) but after what we know he doesn't hate her.
It's not surprising at all that Lelouch might be angry with C.C. in those moments. He was already going through a hell of a lot right after those events. Needless to say as well that Lelouch also discovered that C.C. had known the truth about what happened to Marianne and Nunnally the whole time. It wasn't as if she owned up and told him either. C.C. never really lied to him, but she watched as he suffered and was killing his own family members to get answers that she had been keeping the whole time.
She could of told him something after what happened to Euphy.

After Lelouch was suffering from the time he thought he was losing Nunnally. The only person who went out and looked for him was Kallen.
It's been pretty well proven that Kallen realized she was in love with Lelouch. We have her character's song, the interview Koshimizu Ami gave about what the director told her about the kiss scene, and that heart breaking poem that was published.

The only thing that none of us know is what Lelouch felt. Only thing any of us know for sure is that he loved Nunnally. She's the only person he ever told that to.
We know that Lelouch was willing to die to save Kallen yet when she was clear of the line of fire he whispered to her what he thought were going to be his last words. Those were for her to live on. It wasn't anything about Nunnally or C.C. They were for her. He could of just let her walk off and hate him, but he seemed to want her to understand him in some small way. Even earlier in the elevator, while still suffering from the suspected loss of Nunnally, Lelouch apologized to Kallen and ask for her forgiveness. When did he ever apologize to anyone before? He never even did that when talking about Euphy to Suzaku.
There was also the events for episode R2-22, the kissing scene. Listeing the conversation on the Ikaruga is seems that Kallen volunteered to be the one to escort Lelouch, under the condition that if they suspected she was under the control of his Geass that the Black Knights had permission to shoot her. Seems that Kallen didn't tell them that once the Geass is used on you once you are immune. Sounds as if Kallen had gotten the answer she wanted she might of gone with Lelouch, and she wasn't going to let him push her away again. Another good reason Lelouch probably didn't say anything. He might of realized and he wanted her away from what he had planned for her own good.
It was interesting that it was Lelouch who, while acting as if he didn't know anyone, requested time to be alone with her. He even broke character with her once alone and approaching the school's club house. I'm speculating here, but it is as if he just wanted to see her one more time before he was planning to go to his death. It's almost confirmed with his soft "farewell,..Kallen" line he said once she had walked away.
It's very intriguing how in both the 'kimi wo ikirou' and 'farewell' scenes they never showed Lelouch's eyes. As an artist the trick of hiding the eyes is often used when you want to hide the emotions. It can mean also that the character is feeling immense sorrow.

Near the end C.C. asks Lelouch if he hates her. Lelouch is a tad evasive in his response, but does say that he doesn't hate her.

I think the writers purposely kept Lelouch's motivations more ambiguous. Just look at what must of been a last minute edit of Kallen's stolen card line.
Also more importantly look at those last flashes of memories Nunnally saw. The three major love interest characters appeared only in his memories with the kisses. Kallen didn't appear as a friend or loyal soldier. It was the girl who kissed him. Same with C.C. She appeared in that kiss.

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"Q-1" was just a way to forshadow their whole relationship :')
No needs to wonder why Lelouch didn't pick any empress, his only Queen wasn't available :P
Kallen always did live up to the tile of Queen when it came to the battle field. I was pissed when the chess theme was tossed out for the last great battle.
It always confused me how the manga version of the story has no KMFs. How does Kallen or Suzaku stand out as fighters?

What would really be the point of selecting a Queen or Empress for himself when his ultimate plan was for him to die eventually? If he was to pick someone that person might suffer as an accomplice to his oppressive rule.
The best place for Kallen and the others was to be on the opposing side. Anyone seen as the enemy to the 'evil king' Lelouch would be a hero to the world.

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No need to wonder why they used a lover analogy to explain Kallen's reaction to Lelouch emperor.
I'm not sure what you are talking about here.
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Old 2009-05-12, 04:21   Link #18985
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Deep. After that, i can only say: It's canon. Serious, to me, it's one of the best analysis of the romance in code geass.
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Old 2009-05-12, 04:26   Link #18986
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Deep. After that, i can only say: It's canon. Serious, to me, it's one of the best analysis of the romance in code geass.
Wow, you could of collapsed some of the quote, or put it in a spoiler's window.

You also kind of missed what I was trying to say. The point I was trying to make in the end that none of the pairings are canon, unless you like Lelouch/Nunnally. All the others I think were purposely left ambiguous.
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Old 2009-05-12, 04:29   Link #18987
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Deep. After that, i can only say: It's canon. Serious, to me, it's one of the best analysis of the romance in code geass.
Actually, not really. Fortunately/unfortunately, if we want to be honest, we got the whole puzzle and we got an important piece missing. The heart of the matter: Gumline.
And it was not just a gumline, as most people are saying. It was gonna be a whole scene, buildup, reply and so on. Supposedly, one of the most important moments of Kallen, no? {that was mentioned about gumlines}
Probably, would bring a closure to her/his feelings, an understanding or ever more, a confession. We will never know, i guess.
And this is what sucks, for KallenxLelouch fans, that piece, that would have completed the puzzle, was supposed to be there, yet for some reason {?} it was discarded. Shame.
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Old 2009-05-12, 04:33   Link #18988
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I did misread a little, hehe. But i already put on a spoiler. I did get your point, it was more like a joke, hehe.

Well, honestly, since Lelouch dies, even if he loved someone, there's no way to got a canon pairing and we all know that. I got my opinion that he liked Kallen, but even then, it's just an opinion.... With a lot of arguments to back me up, hehe, but still an opinion, so i agree with you in the end, hehe.
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Old 2009-05-12, 04:38   Link #18989
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I did misread a little, hehe. But i already put on a spoiler. I did get your point, it was more like a joke, hehe.

Well, honestly, since Lelouch dies, even if he loved someone, there's no way to got a canon pairing and we all know that. I got my opinion that he liked Kallen, but even then, it's just an opinion.... With a lot of arguments to back me up, hehe, but still an opinion, so i agree with you in the end, hehe.
What? So Euphie/Suzaku is not canon for example?
It is not about death as in "death" in these situations, it is about confessing. And Lelouch never came clear with his feelings, and after his death, there is no way, there is gonna be a reply, thus not canon pairing.

However, materials from the staff and analyzing certain scenes, do give us "evidences" {and sometimes proofs} about his "romantic"-behavior, towards certain/s characters and especially for Kallen {since we are on her section}, and thus, the romance-argument shall go forever. 8D
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Old 2009-05-12, 04:42   Link #18990
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screw this
next topic concerning a ship where both sides are still alive
zerozaku X kallen
the level of similarities between the two is massive, right down to both having lost the love of their lives in similer tragic condition and having to go on living in a world where everyone hates the one who they love and they know the truth but cant tell anyone about it
your thoughs on this
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Old 2009-05-12, 04:44   Link #18991
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^Speculation. Could happen. Could not. Probably not. Kallen loves Lelouch. Will forever love Lelouch. No other man in her life. Next topic please.
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screw this
next topic concerning a ship where both sides are still alive
zerozaku X kallen
the level of similarities between the two is massive, right down to both having lost the love of their lives in similer tragic condition and having to go on living in a world where everyone hates the one who they love and they know the truth but cant tell anyone about it
your thoughs on this
Why "screw" this? I do not get all the order-trend around lately, in Geass sub-forum, but w/e.

And? They have similarities, does this mean they have to hook up? Actually, there is a similarity, that prevents both of them, to "hook up". The fact, they are both wildly loyal to the people they loved and die, partly, because they changed their lives. Among other things.{especially for Kallen}
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Old 2009-05-12, 04:46   Link #18993
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What? So Euphie/Suzaku is not canon for example?
It is not about death as in "death" in these situations, it is about confessing. And Lelouch never came clear with his feelings, and after his death, there is no way, there is gonna be a reply, thus not canon pairing.

However, materials from the staff and analyzing certain scenes, do give us "evidences" {and sometimes proofs} about his "romantic"-behavior, towards certain/s characters and especially for Kallen {since we are on her section}, and thus, the romance-argument shall go forever. 8D
But that was my point Inc, since he died and no one knows if he truly wanted this girl or other girl, there's no TRUE canon pairing.

But i think it's my fault, my post looked like even if he died, if they didn't get along, it's not canon. Blame my poor english.
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Old 2009-05-12, 04:50   Link #18994
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^Speculation. Could happen. Could not. Probably not. Kallen loves Lelouch. Will forever love Lelouch. No other man in her life. Next topic please.
I'm curious what is happening with Kallen in the manga version since at this stage the manga was at Kallen was suppose to be captured.

Also what is happening in that heroine tribute book? That has some sexy images in it. I'd love to see some of the images in that. I've seen a few. Including that rather disturbing one of Marianne. A child should never be that close to his mothers breasts unless he's of breast feeding age. Not to mention the way she's pushing them into him. I'd love to know what they text is on that page. Does it talk about her character, what's going on in this image, or just talking about the artist who made that particular image?
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still loving lelouch (or euphie) for the rest of their lives is fine, and still makes it possible to move on
activly shunning any and all potential future relationships is NOT moving on
its living, but its not moving on
some would say that "love isnt that big of a deal" or "they dont need love to be complete"
but love IS a rather large part of life (it practiclly DEFINES sheirly's)
not activly persuing love is one thing
actively trying to AVOID it, is another
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I'm curious what is happening with Kallen in the manga version since at this stage the manga was at Kallen was suppose to be captured.
Speaking of, you are talking about the original right? Not all the spinoffs and AU? Is the official that follows Geass' original plot, in Turn 10-timeline? Maybe i should pick it up again then.
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I'm curious what is happening with Kallen in the manga version since at this stage the manga was at Kallen was suppose to be captured.

Also what is happening in that heroine tribute book? That has some sexy images in it. I'd love to see some of the images in that. I've seen a few. Including that rather disturbing one of Marianne. A child should never be that close to his mothers breasts unless he's of breast feeding age. Not to mention the way she's pushing them into him. I'd love to know what they text is on that page. Does it talk about her character, what's going on in this image, or just talking about the artist who made that particular image?
This link got every pic, thanks to Aurelia Aurita:
http://moe.imouto.org/pool/show/602
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Speaking of, you are talking about the original right? Not all the spinoffs and AU? Is the official that follows Geass' original plot, in Turn 10-timeline? Maybe i should pick it up again then.
I'm speaking of the basic Code Geass manga. Not the spin off like NoN. Kallen had a lot of cute scenes in the first few manga volumes. I'm wondering how things are for Kallen in the stage of the manga at this point.
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still loving lelouch (or euphie) for the rest of their lives is fine, and still makes it possible to move on
activly shunning any and all potential future relationships is NOT moving on
its living, but its not moving on
some would say that "love isnt that big of a deal" or "they dont need love to be complete"
but love IS a rather large part of life (it practiclly DEFINES sheirly's)
not activly persuing love is one thing
actively trying to AVOID it, is another
The way Kallen's chara was developed, having Lelouch's love in her heart, seems to be enough for her, for the rest of her life. Pretty much, all the after-series materials, indicate that.
It is not about "avoiding", it is about being "full" with someone's else love, that happened to be the love of you life, even if he is not alive.

@Fox: Yeah, i got it, just wanted to confirm. 8D
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i didnt question if suzaku X kallen are going to fall inlove
i suggested if any kind of relationship is possible between them
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