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Old 2008-07-08, 17:05   Link #3241
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Now they are even. Suzaku lost Euphie, Lelouch lost Shirley.(did nobody else think those two scenes were shot identically) Suzaku learned he can't change the world with good feelings alone, and Lelouch learned that there was consequences to his actions and people suffered because of him. Both have finally been hurt equally.(up till now I considered Suzaku hurt worse because Lelouch didn't have anybody die on him) and with the truth about whats going on finally coming out theres really no reason to continue their feud anymore. If they continue to go against each other and kill one another then Euphie and Shirley died for nothing.
To me that is the definition for Lelouch getting a "good ending"

Up to now everything is working in his favour.

He has successfully rebuilt his rebellion.

He has built up a new empire.

He has gained britannian allies (Which I had hoped).

His sister is under the protection of Suzaku who he trusts (I don't care about the arguments of the emperor ordering Suzaku to backstab her because he would've done so already)

To amend and regain a lost good friend would be a major thing for Lelouch. For suzaku it would put his mind to rest knowing that Lelouch had done everything he could to help Euphie.
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Old 2008-07-08, 17:06   Link #3242
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Now they are even. Suzaku lost Euphie, Lelouch lost Shirley.(did nobody else think those two scenes were shot identically) Suzaku learned he can't change the world with good feelings alone, and Lelouch learned that there was consequences to his actions and people suffered because of him. Both have finally been hurt equally.(up till now I considered Suzaku hurt worse because Lelouch didn't have anybody die on him) and with the truth about whats going on finally coming out theres really no reason to continue their feud anymore. If they continue to go against each other and kill one another then Euphie and Shirley died for nothing.
You have to remember:

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And yes, I am bias. xD Who actually likes Suzaku?
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Old 2008-07-08, 17:07   Link #3243
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You have to remember:

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That all might change soon regarding their goals and motivations.
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Old 2008-07-08, 17:12   Link #3244
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You have to remember:

Suzaku wants to change grab Area 11 by being Knight of One.
Which has been somewhat achieved by Nunnally becoming governor of Japan.

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Lelouch wants to destroy/capture the entire Britainnian Empire.

Both of them aren't willing to change their minds. They aren't fighting for love, they're fighting for Japan.
No they are fighting for the world. The heck have you been?

Cause if the final battle for Japan is episode 17-18 there is no way in hell it's going to go for 8 more episodes.

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Lelouch kills Euphie. Lelouch liked Euphie, what he did was an accident that he regrets/ted.
Yeah which Suzaku wants Lelouch to answer to him. He doesn't know it was an accident, he wants to know WHY Lelouch did it.

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Rolo/whoever killed Shirley. Suzaku was meant to protect Shirley at the time but he didn't.
You still going on this? He provided her an escort yet she sneaks off and goes to the extent of grabbing a FIREARM.

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And yes, I am bias. xD Who actually likes Suzaku?
People who aren't bias.
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Old 2008-07-08, 17:14   Link #3245
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And yes, I am bias. xD Who actually likes Suzaku?
...quite a few people, dear.
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Old 2008-07-08, 17:15   Link #3246
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Use Spoiler tags and stop quoting every one of my sentences out of the spoilers -.-

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No they are fighting for the world. The heck have you been?
Suzaku? Fighting? For the world? I must've missed something there.
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Old 2008-07-08, 17:16   Link #3247
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He's just another Lelouch fanboy, that tries to make Suzaku look worse that Lelouch which sure as hell is not the case, if you want to kiss Lelouch's ass go to the Lelouch thread along with the others so we can get back to some serious discussing
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Old 2008-07-08, 17:19   Link #3248
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Suzaku? Fighting? For the world? I must've missed something there.
Indeed you might have.

And to think we were actually having a discussion about Suzaku for once. Guess we'll have to go through another hate round before we can start again.
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Old 2008-07-08, 17:49   Link #3249
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Use Spoiler tags and stop quoting every one of my sentences out of the spoilers -.-
Why? All this stuff you are bringing up is old news now. It doesn't need spoiler tags.

But yes, your bias is preventing you from looking at the picture clearly. Suzaku is not as bad as you are making him out to be in ANY way. Your reasons you bring up are both ill informed, and not very well thought out.
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Old 2008-07-08, 17:58   Link #3250
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In which episode did Suzaku say that he is doing what he is doing for the world?

I remember him saying that
"I will become knight of one and take over Japan, so Zero is no longer needed." but Zero already stated that he is fighting for justice and against the empire..

I could care less about Lulu but Suzaku is helping the empire actually take over the world >.<. If he saves Japan..what about the rest of the world?
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Old 2008-07-08, 18:09   Link #3251
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They will be fighting for the world in the coming eps as the Emperor's plan suggests.
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Old 2008-07-08, 18:11   Link #3252
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Yup. And I might have gotten a bit carried away thanks to Mr Bias but since you're asking, Suzaku did say he would change the world from the inside in Turn 2.
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Old 2008-07-08, 19:02   Link #3253
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kk, i guess that's legit. I do remember him saying that now.

@Aquaman OS
You might be right on that.
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Old 2008-07-08, 19:04   Link #3254
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Thank the Heavens I found this thread. I was beginning to think EVERY Code Geass fan was an immature "You disagree with my main character bishie and so you must die" Suzaku-bashing Lelouch fangirl!
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Old 2008-07-08, 19:07   Link #3255
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Thank the Heavens I found this thread. I was beginning to think EVERY Code Geass fan was an immature "You disagree with my main character bishie and so you must die" Suzaku-bashing Lelouch fangirl!
Fangirls are infinitely more easygoing on Suzaku than fanboys, just so you know.
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Old 2008-07-08, 19:07   Link #3256
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Thank the Heavens I found this thread. I was beginning to think EVERY Code Geass fan was an immature "You disagree with my main character bishie and so you must die" Suzaku-bashing Lelouch fangirl!
Yeah, I know what you mean too. Don't worry, most of us Suzaku fans are a lot more level-headed than some of the majority of the Lelouch fans.
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Old 2008-07-08, 19:13   Link #3257
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If there's one thing I like about Suzaku, it's that he has more depth than the typical anime character. A lot of otaku consider "depth" to mean a character acts one way but has some secret that motivates absolutely everything the character does. That's not depth, it's a plot twist that the one thing you need to know to predict a character's actions almost perfectly wasn't quite what you thought it was. Suzaku seems to be genuinely conflicted and dynamic, and thus he feels a lot more like a real person. He's a human, not an ideal.
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Old 2008-07-08, 19:14   Link #3258
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Thank the Heavens I found this thread. I was beginning to think EVERY Code Geass fan was an immature "You disagree with my main character bishie and so you must die" Suzaku-bashing Lelouch fangirl!
Yeah if you happen to like both characters or try to stay objective it's quite shocking to find out a lot of the fandom hates Suzaku's guts. But like Musouka said, fangirls in general are way more easygoing on Suzaku than fanboys
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Old 2008-07-08, 19:14   Link #3259
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Thank the Heavens I found this thread. I was beginning to think EVERY Code Geass fan was an immature "You disagree with my main character bishie and so you must die" Suzaku-bashing Lelouch fangirl!
lol. You do realize a good deal of the Suzaku bashers are actually boys right?
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Old 2008-07-08, 19:15   Link #3260
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Fangirls are infinitely more easygoing on Suzaku than fanboys, just so you know.
Only when they're fans of SuzakuLelouch. :P And I typed in excitement; I forgot to be politically correct.
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