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Old 2008-08-11, 19:18   Link #5521
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The Avalon has capacity for only two-three KMFs, if the Freya is left on it, how is it going to get fired?
Knowing Nina she was probably going to try to fire it with a normal KMF like she was trying to pilot the Lancelot. If he dropped it and took with the Lancelot that is. Or ask a Britannian soldier to do it.
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Old 2008-08-11, 19:19   Link #5522
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Knowing Nina she will probably going to try to fire it with a normal KMF like she trying to pilot the Lancelot if he dropped it and took with the Lancelot. Or ask a Britannian soldier to do it.
There were no other Knightmares to do that with. That hanger was empty.
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Old 2008-08-11, 19:20   Link #5523
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There were no other Knightmares to do that with. That hanger was empty.
Why can't they load it onto the Avalon's weapons? Or just call in a scrub Sutherland or Gareth from battle to blast the thing?
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Old 2008-08-11, 19:21   Link #5524
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There were no other Knightmares to do that with. That hanger was empty.
Yea Schneizal could never have asked one of the KMF's orbiting his flagship to come in.
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Old 2008-08-11, 19:21   Link #5525
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The Gareth units have no hands, the rest are busy fighting, and you do not trust a weapon of such potential destructive power to a grunt.
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Old 2008-08-11, 19:21   Link #5526
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Why can't they load it onto the Avalon's weapons? Or just call in a scrub Sutherland or Gareth from battle to blast the thing?
If Suzaku unloads the gun but takes the gun with him, and leaves the bomb. What are they going to do? And what soldier would go on a suicide mission to fire a weapon like that?
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Old 2008-08-11, 19:22   Link #5527
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There were no other Knightmares to do that with. That hanger was empty.
She would call Shniezel and order one like a pizza to drop by the Avalon which will show up in like ten minutes then.
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Old 2008-08-11, 19:23   Link #5528
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She would call Shniezel and order one like a pizza to drop by the Avalon which will show up in like ten minutes then.
Covered this. You don't trust grunts to such an endeavor.
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Old 2008-08-11, 19:24   Link #5529
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If Suzaku unloads the gun but takes the gun with him, and leaves the bomb. What are they going to do? And what soldier would go on a suicide mission to fire a weapon like that?
So take the launcher but leave the warhead? That doesn't sound too smart. Either way he's not allowed to do that and Britannian guards will kill on sight if he did.
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Old 2008-08-11, 19:24   Link #5530
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You don't give a bomb of that caliber to a grunt. (Yes, I'm repeating morbosfist)
Why's that? Care to explain? All he needs to do is shoot it like a bullet.
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Old 2008-08-11, 19:24   Link #5531
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If Suzaku unloads the gun but takes the gun with him, and leaves the bomb. What are they going to do? And what soldier would go on a suicide mission to fire a weapon like that?
So now you want him to unload the gun. Make up your mind... Can he even be able to do that? The only switch there was for the thing was the fire button that we know of.

And what Soldier would go on a suicide mission with that weapon? One that will do anything for Britannian glory? Seriously, a lot of Britannian soldiers would give up their lives to win a battle. Namely all of them.
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Old 2008-08-11, 19:25   Link #5532
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Covered this. You don't trust grunts to such an endeavor.
One Knightmare for Nina to pilot then. Also he could be sending Kanon who is not a grunt.
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Old 2008-08-11, 19:27   Link #5533
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So take the launcher but leave the warhead? That doesn't sound too smart. Either way he's not allowed to do that and Britannian guards will kill on sight if he did.
If the bomb can't work without the gun, it sounds perfectly viable.

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So now you want him to unload the gun. Make up your mind... Can he even be able to do that? The only switch there was for the thing was the fire button that we know of.

And what Soldier would go on a suicide mission with that weapon? One that will do anything for Britannian glory? Seriously, a lot of Britannian soldiers would give up their lives to win a battle. Namely all of them.
How am I switching my mind? I'm just giving you other options, as I said, taking it out was never his only option. If there is a way to put the weapon in, there's likely a way to remove it, otherwise what happens if something goes wrong or they have to change something? Throw it away?
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Old 2008-08-11, 19:27   Link #5534
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So take the launcher but leave the warhead? That doesn't sound too smart. Either way he's not allowed to do that and Britannian guards will kill on sight if he did.
Kill the Knight of Seven? You're joking. They wouldn't touch him.

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Why's that? Care to explain? All he needs to do is shoot it like a bullet.
A bullet that could wipe out a city. No, you do not trust just anyone to such a task.

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One Knightmare for Nina to pilot then. Also he could be sending Kanon who is not a grunt.
Kanon isn't a Knightmare pilot and neither is Nina. Granted, she's willing, but I don't think they'd do such a roundabout thing in the middle of battle.
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Old 2008-08-11, 19:27   Link #5535
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Give it a rest will ya. Suzaku did what he thought was the best option, it backfired. If Gino wasn't a playful moron who never takes anything seriously Suzaku could have trusted him with it, but that guy would probably shoot it for fun.
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Old 2008-08-11, 19:27   Link #5536
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One Knightmare for Nina to pilot then. Also he could be sending Kanon who is not a grunt.
Hey that makes sense.. how dare you?!
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Old 2008-08-11, 19:30   Link #5537
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If the bomb can't work without the gun, it sounds perfectly viable.
Why wouldn't it work without a gun?
It was laoded onto a gun, but that doesn't mean that is the only way it can be fired or activated.

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If there is a way to put the weapon in, there's likely a way to remove it, otherwise what happens if something goes wrong or they have to change something? Throw it away?
You got me there, but that doesn't mean Suzaku has the means to unload the weapon on his KMF.
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Old 2008-08-11, 19:32   Link #5538
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Kill the Knight of Seven? You're joking. They wouldn't touch him.

A bullet that could wipe out a city. No, you do not trust just anyone to such a task.

Kanon isn't a Knightmare pilot and neither is Nina. Granted, she's willing, but I don't think they'd do such a roundabout thing in the middle of battle.
I thought you said Knight of Seven had no authority over Britanian royalty but this case is different right? Even if it's specific treason? Kanon doesn't need to be a pilot, just supervise the pilot or be all the way back away from the battle since it is a long range weapon.
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Old 2008-08-11, 19:35   Link #5539
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I thought you said Knight of Seven had no authority over Britanian royalty but this case is different right? Even if it's specific treason? Kanon doesn't need to be a pilot, just supervise the pilot or be all the way back away from the battle since it is a long range weapon.
How is it treason to remove a weapon? No, they would not kill Suzaku for dismounting the gun. Even Kanon notes that the use of the weapon was entirely a matter of Suzaku's pride, ergo they were screwed if he said no. If Kanon doesn't pilot it, they wouldn't trust the grunt.
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Old 2008-08-11, 19:36   Link #5540
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The problem with all the drop the gun theories is that once he drop it,no one can make sure Nina or Schneizel has no other means to fire it ....You guys don't know what they can do and are just making excuses on how they wouldn't or couldn't do it....

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Even Kanon notes that the use of the weapon was entirely a matter of Suzaku's pride, ergo they were screwed if he said no
Kanon was talking about piloting the Lancelot with the bomb...not firing the weapon..
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