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Old 2008-08-31, 19:57   Link #6501
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This is Fucked up. In the span of 2 episodes suzaku went from charles knight of 7, then betrayed him and became shneziels knight of one, and now he betrayed AGAIN and becomes Lelouches knight of zero. How does he do it lol
Have to say at this rate he should be ruling the planet by the end of the series .
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Old 2008-08-31, 20:03   Link #6502
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I guess they're both going with the direction that it doesn't matter who you betray or how you get power as long as you get it in the end.
Well what do you expect after all that's happen to both of them, hell after a few choice words from Schienzel the Black Knights were eating out of his hands even Kallen is stuck in the crossroads of loyalty.
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Old 2008-08-31, 20:07   Link #6503
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This is Fucked up. In the span of 2 episodes suzaku went from charles knight of 7, then betrayed him and became shneziels knight of one, and now he betrayed AGAIN and becomes Lelouches knight of zero. How does he do it lol
Bismarck's quote "Who can trust a man who has betrayed so many times."
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Old 2008-08-31, 20:10   Link #6504
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Bismarck's quote "Who can trust a man who has betrayed so many times."
Well I assume a man who has also betrayed just as many times (Lelouch)
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Old 2008-08-31, 20:12   Link #6505
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This is Fucked up. In the span of 2 episodes suzaku went from charles knight of 7, then betrayed him and became shneziels knight of one, and now he betrayed AGAIN and becomes Lelouches knight of zero. How does he do it lol
Well he was never Schneziels Knight Of One to begin with it was just an offer for him if he was able to assassinate Charles and then he found out the truth about everything infront of his own eyes.
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Old 2008-08-31, 20:13   Link #6506
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This is Fucked up. In the span of 2 episodes suzaku went from charles knight of 7, then betrayed him and became shneziels knight of one, and now he betrayed AGAIN and becomes Lelouches knight of zero. How does he do it lol
Just wait until Suzaku betrays Lelouch next episode to become the Knight of Negative One.
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Old 2008-08-31, 20:16   Link #6507
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Just wait until Suzaku betrays Lelouch next episode to become the Knight of Negative One.
Okay now its getting ridiculous, Zero is find by itself, Knight of ZERO! I just got that
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Old 2008-08-31, 20:17   Link #6508
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Well I assume a man who has also betrayed just as many times (Lelouch)
No way. When Lelouch malices on others (say Rolo for example) he plans to cast them away from the beginning. He's a master of manipulation.
Suzaku on the other hand, betrays people who he cared about, who trusted him back, like his father, Lelouch, the Japanese, Britannian Empire (as a Knight of Rounds).
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Old 2008-08-31, 20:18   Link #6509
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No way. When Lelouch malices on others (say Rolo for example) he plans to cast them away from the beginning. He's a master of manipulation.
Suzaku on the other hand, betrays people who he cared about, who trusted him back, like his father, Lelouch, the Japanese, Britannian Empire (as a Knight of Rounds).
Lelouch actually betrayed him first... with the Euphie thing... Selling him to the Emperor was more like pay-back than betrayal since they really weren't friends at that point... And as for his father, well, he was a kid and didn't know any better. Other than that though, yeah.
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Old 2008-08-31, 20:23   Link #6510
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Lelouch actually betrayed him first... with the Euphie thing... Selling him to the Emperor was more like pay-back than betrayal since they really weren't friends at that point... And as for his father, well, he was a kid and didn't know any better. Other than that though, yeah.
It wasn't intentional for god's sake he was teary eyed after Geassing her, give him some break.
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Old 2008-08-31, 20:24   Link #6511
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We also don't know how sincere Suzaku was about working for Schnizel. He seemed to be wanting an excuse to go after Charles for being such a terrible parent and all around bad guy rather than want to put Charles on the throne. He might prefer Lelouch to him as Emp.
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Old 2008-08-31, 20:26   Link #6512
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It wasn't intentional for god's sake he was teary eyed after Geassing her, give him some break.
Uh...no, its hard to ignore what he's done even if it wasn't intentional (not to mention that he took advantage of the situation) and the same goes for Suzaku.
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Old 2008-08-31, 20:28   Link #6513
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It wasn't intentional for god's sake he was teary eyed after Geassing her, give him some break.
You can give Suzaku some break, he ONLY betrayed his friend SEVERAL times. I mean, he was just trying to do it for the better good.
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Old 2008-08-31, 20:33   Link #6514
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It wasn't intentional for god's sake he was teary eyed after Geassing her, give him some break.
No. You don't accidentally say "kill all Japanese." If he wasn't an ego-stroking brat it all could have been avoided.
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Old 2008-08-31, 20:51   Link #6515
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No. You don't accidentally say "kill all Japanese." If he wasn't an ego-stroking brat it all could have been avoided.
Give him a break after he eliminates his ego.

The head-stomp was deserved. Taste dirt!
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Old 2008-08-31, 21:01   Link #6516
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Well he was never Schneziels Knight Of One to begin with it was just an offer for him if he was able to assassinate Charles and then he found out the truth about everything infront of his own eyes.
yeah but still the betrayal is still there
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Old 2008-08-31, 21:14   Link #6517
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yeah but still the betrayal is still there
Unless he brought Charles head on platter 2 Schniezel which he didn't the deal went up in smoke when he failed 2 kill Charles. I don't see it as a Betrayal at all, besides he's the one who made the offer 2 Schniezel in the first place
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Old 2008-08-31, 21:35   Link #6518
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No way. When Lelouch malices on others (say Rolo for example) he plans to cast them away from the beginning. He's a master of manipulation.
Suzaku on the other hand, betrays people who he cared about, who trusted him back, like his father, Lelouch, the Japanese, Britannian Empire (as a Knight of Rounds).
His father trusted him back ? Last I remembered this was not a great family situation. Depending on what your willing to define as betrayal many characters have betrayed a lot of things. Now that Lelouch and Suzaku understand each other they are ready to make their stand to the finish.
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Old 2008-08-31, 23:39   Link #6519
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yeah but still the betrayal is still there
As Schneitzel said best, Suzaku lives on betrayal.

But this time, teaming up with Lelu is atonement.
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Old 2008-08-31, 23:41   Link #6520
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My Hatred for Suzaku has completely Disappeared thx to episode 21
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