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Old 2008-08-19, 20:43   Link #2241
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You can't let go of a person mentally? You've got to be joking.
I have no idea what you're even getting at. Kallen may have let him go for a second because of what he said, but she was grasping for him again by the end. If you think she's seriously not going to go after him, then your insane. Therein she's still on his side. C.Chi may be oblivious to everything but she is still going to follow her 'master' who treated her nicely. She is still on his side. Jeremiah may not know what has happened but the moment he does, he will be at Lelouch's side.

That's three people who are with Lelouch in mind, just not in body. Lelouch may have let them go, but they haven't let him go.
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Old 2008-08-19, 20:43   Link #2242
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Given that Suzaku seems to be a few fries short of a happy meal, getting him off his path will take one hell of a wake-up call. Suzaku's not going to be any help for some time.
Oh lawl, awesome analogy xD
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Old 2008-08-19, 20:45   Link #2243
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Just watch. Suzaku will help Lelouch more than anyone.
If Sunrise/Tanaguchi intends to keep true to their word on Suzaku and Lelocuh never working together again, then those hopes are slim...
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Old 2008-08-19, 21:45   Link #2244
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You could see the BK's discontent growing even before meeting with Scheneizel.
These are all paraphrased
1. after returning from the massacre of the Geass Order, Asahina becomes suspicions of the blood on knightmares
2. "He let in Jeremiah and Rolo without consulting us"
3. same thing with Guilford
4. Diethard "he could put a little more trust in me"
Because Lelu is too merciful with them.

If they were under the command of Charles, anyone who questions his authority will be killed off easily.
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Old 2008-08-19, 21:47   Link #2245
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Because Lelu is too merciful with them.

If they were under the command of Charles, anyone who questions his authority will be killed off easily.
Haha, made of win right there.
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Old 2008-08-19, 22:22   Link #2246
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If Sunrise/Tanaguchi intends to keep true to their word on Suzaku and Lelocuh never working together again, then those hopes are slim...
Is there even a possibility right now? Suzaku showing signs of becoming just another crazy soldier, and Lelouch showing signs of becoming much more merciful towards human feelings, suggesting a much wider separation between them.

I am glad that Lelouch's identity has been disclosed, to the people who were supporting him blindly. At least, from now on, anyone joining him will support him fully aware of his identity and intentions, creating a much more unified group against his father.
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Old 2008-08-19, 22:31   Link #2247
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Is there even a possibility right now? Suzaku showing signs of becoming just another crazy soldier, and Lelouch showing signs of becoming much more merciful towards human feelings, suggesting a much wider separation between them.
Well, you never know. Though personally I'd like tos ee them both remaining enemies.

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I am glad that Lelouch's identity has been disclosed, to the people who were supporting him blindly. At least, from now on, anyone joining him will support him fully aware of his identity and intentions, creating a much more unified group against his father.
True enough. The fact that he buildt everything upon lies made for a shaky foundation from since the very start, so...
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Old 2008-08-20, 01:27   Link #2248
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Because Lelu is too merciful with them.

If they were under the command of Charles, anyone who questions his authority will be killed off easily.
i dont agree...they would rebel against him regardless of whether or not LL kills off anyone who questions him as can be seen by them rebelling against charles...
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Old 2008-08-20, 01:37   Link #2249
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If Sunrise/Tanaguchi intends to keep true to their word on Suzaku and Lelocuh never working together again, then those hopes are slim...
He could always help Lelouch indirectly. They may not team up, but individually they might do the same thing.
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Old 2008-08-20, 01:41   Link #2250
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He could always help Lelouch indirectly. They may not team up, but individually they might do the same thing.
I suppose I could buy that indeed - or them helping the other one out by mistake...
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Old 2008-08-20, 05:12   Link #2251
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I wonder what the ootBK and Schenziel thought when both Lelouch and Shinkiriou vanished in front of their eyes?

The OotBK would be like "holy fuck he can teleport as well as mind control!!!!!" if they don't check Diethards video first, while Schenziel will be "thats so FABUOLOUS. Why can't i have a geass? Kannon go get me a geass and my panda".
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Old 2008-08-20, 05:14   Link #2252
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I wonder what the ootBK and Schenziel thought when both Lelouch and Shinkiriou vanished in front of their eyes?

The OotBK would be like "holy fuck he can teleport as well as mind control!!!!!" if they don't check Diethards video first, while Schenziel will be "thats so FABUOLOUS. Why can't i have a geass? Kannon go get me a geass and my panda".
I think that sounds about right...<.<'

Seriously though, Schneizel was probably just. "Heh... Oh well."
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Old 2008-08-20, 05:17   Link #2253
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I think that sounds about right...<.<'

Seriously though, Schneizel was probably just. "Heh... Oh well."
Schenziel will want one, if for no other reason than not to feel left out. I mean daddy had one until he got something better and lelouch has one as well. If he hears about the whole immortality thing that clinches the deal.
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Old 2008-08-20, 05:33   Link #2254
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Schenziel will want one, if for no other reason than not to feel left out. I mean daddy had one until he got something better and lelouch has one as well. If he hears about the whole immortality thing that clinches the deal.
I do not think Schneizel wants nor needs one. People who gain Geass are people who have some great desire. Schneizel does not strike me as a man who'd need or want Geass when he can do everything without it. He has all the advantages, he has no use for a Geass.
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Old 2008-08-20, 05:36   Link #2255
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I do not think Schneizel wants nor needs one. People who gain Geass are people who have some great desire. Schneizel does not strike me as a man who'd need or want Geass when he can do everything without it. He has all the advantages, he has no use for a Geass.
Exactly. Look at what Schneizel has done without Geass after all. Turned the BKs against Lelouch with the truth and seems to have a faction ready to split against his father all without needing Geass to manipulate events or people. He is THAT good. I guess that is why Lelouch could never beat him...
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Old 2008-08-20, 05:42   Link #2256
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I do not think Schneizel wants nor needs one. People who gain Geass are people who have some great desire. Schneizel does not strike me as a man who'd need or want Geass when he can do everything without it. He has all the advantages, he has no use for a Geass.
Not the geass part no, but the whole immortality thing would be sorely tempting to 99.89% of people. Well until they realised the drawbacks of it.

Which begs the question why in the name of god has Charles not got screwed over by geass?

1.Lelouch got buggered because of Euphinator, Suzaku nerfing Nunnally under the live geass influence and his teammates dropping him like a lead balloon when the truth about it came out.

2.Rai sent his family off to die.

3.C.C. never got to experience true love because of her geass, the one thing she truly wanted.

4.Mao went bonkers because of his geass and turned into C.C.'s number 1 stalker.

5.Rolo's life was just one big tragedy right up until the end when he realised at last that he did not have to be just a tool but could make his own decisions. Didn't help him much but he died happy.

Charles seems to be the odd one since he got be Emperor, have 108 wives, make awesome speeches, know everything and generally get to act unconcerned about, well, everything.
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Old 2008-08-20, 05:44   Link #2257
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Charles seems to be the odd one since he got be Emperor, have 108 wives, make awesome speeches, know everything and generally get to act unconcerned about, well, everything.
Because Charles is too uncaring, unforgiving, and uninterested to be effected by Geass. Unlike everyone else, Charles isn't afraid to lose anything and usually, doesn't care.
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Old 2008-08-20, 05:48   Link #2258
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Exactly. Look at what Schneizel has done without Geass after all. Turned the BKs against Lelouch with the truth and seems to have a faction ready to split against his father all without needing Geass to manipulate events or people. He is THAT good. I guess that is why Lelouch could never beat him...
He never could beat him because his humanity held him back. If lelouch was truly heartless he would've won no problem.

Geass the ootBK and Kallen to be totally loyal. Geass Suzaku into being his ally. Geass Cornelia, Euphie, Guilford and Darlton into following being his moles and then mass geass the Britannian forces in Area 11 in secret. Geass the memebers of Kyoto and then head into the Chinese federation for mor mass geassing of leaders and military leaders until he has an unstoppable force.

However they handicapped him in the worst possible way. Even though he could technically do that his morals prevented him from doing so.
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Old 2008-08-20, 06:11   Link #2259
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He never could beat him because his humanity held him back. If lelouch was truly heartless he would've won no problem.
I mean EVER. Lelouch even says he never beaten Schneizel. This was no different and he knew it when he saw him there that he had no way out. He could have Geassed the BKs into killing themselves, but that wouldn't have stopped the KMFs from blasting him and splattering him across the wall.
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Old 2008-08-20, 06:19   Link #2260
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I mean EVER. Lelouch even says he never beaten Schneizel. This was no different and he knew it when he saw him there that he had no way out. He could have Geassed the BKs into killing themselves, but that wouldn't have stopped the KMFs from blasting him and splattering him across the wall.
I would say he defeats him in China. He stopped the China/Brittiania union and got a very good general out of in the process.
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