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Old 2009-12-10, 17:59   Link #6481
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what is the question you think i'm asking ?
and why are you quoting yourself ?
what does jeremiah have to do with anything ?
fight his way out of where ?
why is kallen being there making it harder to escape ?
you are not making any sense

and while shnizel is hard to believe, the BK are not impossible
and you have not "proven" anything
you've hardly even SAID anything at all that i can understand
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Old 2009-12-10, 18:10   Link #6482
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Yes, I have.

You can't prove Geass one-time thing, unless there is a lie-detector that is not a machine.

*sighs*

It makes sense. You cannot tell when somebody is bluffing or not, just because he has his Geass turned on doens't mean he is using it after he gave you a command already; therefore Geassing with a second command doesn't explain anything showing that it doesn't work when you can only use Geass once.

There isn't a way out.

If, you don't understand, you need to re-watch R2 again.


No matter where you are, you could never prove Lelouch's Geass one-time effect.

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Old 2009-12-10, 18:12   Link #6483
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1)that does not = peace is imposslbe, if he didnt attack them, they would not have attack him
2)why would there not be a lie detector in a world that has giant robots
3)what does the rest of what you just said mean ?
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Old 2009-12-10, 18:15   Link #6484
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He has to attack. If not Zero would receive a trial whether he attacks or not.

It's called destroying the evidence, you understand now...imagine the rest of the world against him, there are nations and civilians who were neutral.

Schneizel can still get rid of Lelouch by political ways (Electric Chair, Rebellion within Britannia, etc...) thanks to Villeta, Suzaku, etc...

, and it's not just Schneizel.

Schneizel will ruin Lelouch's life as much as possible.



He won't fulfill his deathwish, either; well technically just on Suzaku's part.

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Old 2009-12-10, 18:16   Link #6485
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what ?
i'm sorry, but what you just said makes no sense
please expand ?

to the world, zero is dead
you cant put a dead man on trial

emperor lelouch can just sign a peace treaty and be done with the war against the UFN
thats one problem solved
then attack shnizel and kill him when he's isolated in cambodia
that solves problem 2

i still dont get how you go from "the black knights dont trust him" to "he MUST attack them"
if he does not attack them, then they can distrust him all they want, but they cant attack him
the UFN mandate means the black knights follow the orders of the UFN council, and most of the UFN think lelouch is the best thing since sliced bread
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Old 2009-12-10, 18:29   Link #6486
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Peace Treaty would not solve anything. It would not change the world as big as how Lelouch did.

They would not start focusing on the poverty and something else...
Besides, Lelouch is to future. You're only using present with Schneizel.
Lelouch would be face for trial.

He does not know where he is.
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Old 2009-12-10, 18:30   Link #6487
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To solve the lie detector problem, Lelouch could just Geass himself into truthfully answering any question given to him, say, within the next 30 minutes.
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Old 2009-12-10, 18:31   Link #6488
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Peace Treaty would not solve anything. It would not change the world as big as how Lelouch did.
a peace treaty would create world peace
what more can you ask
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They would not start focusing on the poverty and something else...
why not
would there be a war to focus on ?
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Lelouch would be face for trial.
for what

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He does not know where he is.
if you are talking about shnizel
he knows the tremolo institue is in cambodia
he even knows about the damocles being constracted there
why attack the UFN when he could just atttack him
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Old 2009-12-10, 18:33   Link #6489
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They wouldn't agree to a peace treaty anyway, not until Zero receives his punishment or Lelouch. It's the law.

This doens't tune in to the deathwish part, and his sins.

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To solve the lie detector problem, Lelouch could just Geass himself into truthfully answering any question given to him, say, within the next 30 minutes.
That doens't work, the question is does it really work or is that another lie sealed for another lie.

Lelouch cannot geass himself twice, (this doens't prevent him from lieing), to prove anything or just only the one-time thing because he already did if he hadn't it still wouldn't work. Jeremiah isn't there.

No way out once again...

Even if it was the one-time thing that would solve it all, he would still be trialed. He would lie in order not to reveal any Geass info about his.

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Old 2009-12-10, 18:42   Link #6490
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They wouldn't agree to a peace treaty anyway, not until Zero receives his punishment or Lelouch. It's the law.

This doens't tune in to the deathwish part, and his sins.
why would they not ?
they agree to meet him and talk peace didnt they ?
are the OOBK people who have been shown to follow the law at all times ?

and the fact that he has a deathwish means nothing to me
if he has to die, make peace, put someone you trust as emperor, then kill yourself
dont drag the entire world into war just to make it symbolic

and spending your life dedicated to making the world a better place for the next 60 years is a GREAT way to make up for your sins
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Old 2009-12-10, 18:44   Link #6491
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That's only one person opinion. Also, it's the law.

You WILL GET A PUNISHMENT for everything that has happened.

1 opinion=everybody dead in R1 and R2... (this is an example, there are more)

Doens't work...
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Old 2009-12-10, 18:48   Link #6492
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That's only one person opinion. Also, it's the law.

You WILL GET A PUNISHMENT for everything that has happened.
what ?
1)the black knigths were people who have been breaking the law everyday on a day to day basis for years
not like they would start following it like knight templar now all of a sudden
2)what does the red part mean ?
who would get punished ?
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Old 2009-12-10, 18:48   Link #6493
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Yet, they are on Schneizel's side. That could be the exception, not to mention how the scene was made in Episode 19 they did not know anything. Why would they be trialed for a reason like that?


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Old 2009-12-10, 18:50   Link #6494
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they are only on shnizel side AFTER lelouch attacked them and conquered their country
again
not because he broke the law, but because he attacked THEM
if lelouch did not attack them, they would not side with shnizel
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Old 2009-12-10, 18:52   Link #6495
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That's only one person opinion. Also, it's the law.

You WILL GET A PUNISHMENT for everything that has happened.

1 opinion=everybody dead in R1 and R2... (this is an example, there are more)

Doens't work...
Also, this is a selfish-personal reason from Lelouch. He can't escape the law I think.

You can't prove if they want to get rid of him, anyway or want revenge.

You can't prove they are affected by Geass either.

Impossible answer once again...
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Old 2009-12-10, 18:55   Link #6496
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what law
lelouch is emperor, he does not obey the law, he makes it
and if he just wanted world peace, he could have had it without having to do zero-requiem
make peace with the UFN, and kill shcnizel
thats it
world peace
both sides of the world sign a peace treaty = world peace
and they WOULD have signed a peace treaty with him
the black knights do not rule the UFN, they are its subordinates
they have to follow the orders of the council, which loved lelouch up to that point
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Old 2009-12-10, 18:56   Link #6497
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It doens't have to BE a official law.

It can be a moral law like a witch being burned. Our law was made because of our human morality.

Even if he admits his deathwish and his goals then commits suicide with the help of Suzaku, it may not change the world until epiphany which would take longer to realize for some people. Lelouch would lose his credit for changing the world, so it's also a matter of self-pride.

Now shut up, the least you can do for not understanding.
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Old 2009-12-10, 18:59   Link #6498
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It doens't have to BE a official law.

It can be a moral law. Our law was made because of our human morality.

Now shut up.
i'm done with this debate with you
not only are you incoherent as hell to the point of borderline Non sequitur posts, but now you've crossed the line into full on rudeness
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Old 2009-12-10, 19:06   Link #6500
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W/e, I just wanted this to end from yesterday after yesterday once more. You just made it more harder, for making it so hard after the law part, "with what law?", which made me more pissed off at you than anybody else which is why I am ignored.

You were the one being, undecisive with the question.

What would be the point of having any government in any show (well maybe just this show) in the first place?

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