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Old 2008-09-04, 15:55   Link #481
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And then we'll have all the clues ready, it's up to us to solve it XD
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Umineko no Naku Koro ni Ep1: Finished
Umineko no Naku Koro ni Ep2: Finished
Umineko no Naku Koro ni Ep3: Finished
Umineko no Naku Koro ni Ep4: Finished

Umineko no Naku Koro ni EP5: ...??

Accumulating 07th point -.-
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Old 2008-09-04, 20:59   Link #482
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the forth one will be on the next comiket at Desember if there's no problem
That is what I was thinking. Which is why I thought "Umineko 4 might be released before Umineko 3 is fully translated"

I must admit, I found the Ep1 Tea Party to be the most horrifying part. Watching the character's discussing their own deaths, and in the end having Battler actually tell Beatrice to her face that she doesnt exist....
"The Meta... it hurts ussss......"

Odd thought about the Umineko/Higurashi relation. At one point in the story it actually references Higurashi inside, while at the end almost seems like a giant Higurashi continuation. So they both referenced it as a fake world within, and also as a same-world thing.... confusing, if you ask me.
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Old 2008-09-05, 20:47   Link #483
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This will piss off a lot of people... though I wonder if them being pissed off proves Klash's point
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Old 2008-09-05, 22:15   Link #484
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Would it be possible by any chance to get the scripts if you can show photographic evidence for having the game? (CD case, username on sheet of paper nearby, or something.) They do provide a quick way for people to dig for clues and are copy/pastable unlike the game itself. Although I can't read much Japanese (I just go by my Chinese knowledge) so it's not as useful for me, haha.

Do you include translation checking in "editing" or is it primarily readability?
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Old 2008-09-06, 00:13   Link #485
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I don't really mind as it stops the temptation of reading the script and spoiling playing the actual game.
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Old 2008-09-06, 00:17   Link #486
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Do you include translation checking in "editing" or is it primarily readability?
TL check is its own thing
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Old 2008-09-06, 05:49   Link #487
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This will piss off a lot of people... though I wonder if them being pissed off proves Klash's point
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I actually applaud that. Of course I am pretty disappointed as I was about 2 chapters away from finishing the 2nd episode, but I don't mind waiting... Your reasons are noble enough, eheh.
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Old 2008-09-06, 06:10   Link #488
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Well,

I don't thnk it'd be that much of a problem to leave the scripts there (the clannad guys are leaving it there, tomoyo after too).



But, well, you decide.
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Old 2008-09-06, 06:53   Link #489
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Would it be possible by any chance to get the scripts if you can show photographic evidence for having the game? (CD case, username on sheet of paper nearby, or something.) They do provide a quick way for people to dig for clues and are copy/pastable unlike the game itself. Although I can't read much Japanese (I just go by my Chinese knowledge) so it's not as useful for me, haha.
I don't see any problem with that. Upon request with simple proof of evidence, we can provide the scripts (CD case with paper with your username on it, a la Ebay is pretty fine).
I'm currently backing up the scripts before the real purge.
You can PM me, and I will see what I can do.
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Well,

I don't thnk it'd be that much of a problem to leave the scripts there (the clannad guys are leaving it there, tomoyo after too).



But, well, you decide.
That would be faster if we knew Ryukishi's stance about that matter. However, unlike Clannad and Tomoyo After (or any other VN), Umineko chapters are very different in structure and size. As result, I can see far easier way to read Umineko with a side script, while it would be hell tedious with Clannad.

That said, we are especially assuring our chance to get Ryukishi's support, which is the primary goal of this removal.
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Old 2008-09-06, 08:42   Link #490
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That said, we are especially assuring our chance to get Ryukishi's support, which is the primary goal of this removal.
Not trying to be annoying, but:
Ryuukishi's support/OK (or any other game developer) is something you're 99% sure to not obtain. The only guy who actually gave an OK to this kind of thing was, if I'm not mistaken, the creator of Narcissu, who gave his OK to insani and Haeleth.

Of course Ryuukishi'd be happy with english translations for his games, after all, he will sell a few more copies of the game in the west of the globe. But, give support to this project is highly unlikely.

So, I think you should not worry about that.


And if possible
I'd also like to have scripts for episode 1
It's annoying to keep skipping text every time you want to read a certain part.
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Old 2008-09-06, 09:25   Link #491
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Not trying to be annoying, but:
Ryuukishi's support/OK (or any other game developer) is something you're 99% sure to not obtain. The only guy who actually gave an OK to this kind of thing was, if I'm not mistaken, the creator of Narcissu, who gave his OK to insani and Haeleth.

Of course Ryuukishi'd be happy with english translations for his games, after all, he will sell a few more copies of the game in the west of the globe. But, give support to this project is highly unlikely.

So, I think you should not worry about that.
I don't even see how it is impossible to expect, considering how Ryukishi himself wanted his games to be translated but failed to do so because of his lack of english knowledge and possible trouble with license etc. Considering his communication and the fact it is a doujin, it is by far "easier" than trying to ask permission from big shot like Key.

In any case, even if we fail to get his support/approval, we will still keep this stance as we need go step forward like groups such like mirrormoon instead of gambling our luck on public interface and such, which was moderately or really not successful until now for us (unlike Clannad who gained quite a huge support thanks to the wiki system).

And it will also keep our philosophy that the damn game deserve to be bought, though obviously it won't stop torrents and such *sigh*.

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And if possible
I'd also like to have scripts for episode 1
It's annoying to keep skipping text every time you want to read a certain part.
I will try to see if I can make the current script into usual text, though considering how it changed compared to the old script, it would take quite a long time to remove all tags and such.
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Old 2008-09-06, 10:34   Link #492
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Well, I'm not going to complain about giving the text out to people who have the game, but remember, that's a luxury that even Japanese players of the game don't have.

On a happier note, episode 2 is coming along quickly, and should be halfway done in two weeks at the worst, less than a full week at the best. So most of what was posted online will be released anyways for people who have the game.
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Old 2008-09-06, 11:15   Link #493
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I will try to see if I can make the current script into usual text, though considering how it changed compared to the old script, it would take quite a long time to remove all tags and such.
I wouldn't mind the tags

I just want to be able to use the 'search' feature any text editor (like notepad) has.

If I had some knowledge, I could extract it from the patch files

But you're free to not give it if you don't want to. I thank you anyway.


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Well,
I already found a way
don't need it anymore
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Old 2008-09-06, 11:22   Link #494
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On a happier note, episode 2 is coming along quickly, and should be halfway done in two weeks at the worst, less than a full week at the best. So most of what was posted online will be released anyways for people who have the game.
You guys sure work fast! You will most likely finish Banquet of the Golden Witch before episode 4 comes out if you continue to translate at this pace. Keep up the good work!
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Old 2008-09-06, 11:40   Link #495
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keep up the good work, i cant wait for ep 2
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Old 2008-09-06, 16:12   Link #496
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Will the next version be compatible with episode 3?

I have no idea why they're bundling everything together :S

Keep up the good work guys, you're doing great for all us non-speakers!

EDIT: I think that without the music among the other parts of the game, the script alone isn't very exciting, I don't think people would mind waiting for the patches to come out.
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Old 2008-09-06, 19:29   Link #497
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I think that without the music among the other parts of the game, the script alone isn't very exciting, I don't think people would mind waiting for the patches to come out.
I agree with that, but for clue-hunting it's a much more efficient format.
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Old 2008-09-06, 22:41   Link #498
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This is a notice that i have received & acknowledge the official request to remove the current script from the Umineko project.

specifically:

Code:
[[Umineko_Volume_2:_Tips]]
[[Umineko_Volume_2:_Chapter_0]]
[[Umineko_Volume_2:_Chapter_1]]
[[Umineko_Volume_2:_Chapter_2]]
[[Umineko_Volume_2:_Chapter_3]]
[[Umineko_Volume_2:_Chapter_4]]
[[Umineko_Volume_2:_Chapter_5]]
[[Umineko_Volume_2:_Chapter_6]]
[[Umineko_Volume_2:_Chapter_7]]
[[Umineko_Volume_2:_Chapter_8]]
[[Umineko_Volume_2:_Chapter_9]]
[[Umineko_Volume_2:_Chapter_10]]
[[Umineko_Volume_2:_Chapter_11]]
[[Umineko_Volume_2:_Chapter_12]]
[[Umineko_Volume_2:_Chapter_13]]
[[Umineko_Volume_2:_Chapter_14]]
[[Umineko_Volume_2:_Chapter_15]]
[[Umineko_Volume_2:_Chapter_16]]
[[Umineko_Volume_2:_Chapter_17]]
[[Umineko_Volume_2:_Endroll]]
[[Umineko_Volume_2:_Epilouge]]
[[Umineko_Volume_2:_Tea_Party]]
[[Umineko_Volume_2:_Hidden_Tea_Party]]

[[Umineko_Volume_3:_Chapter_0]]
[[Umineko_Volume_3:_Chapter_1]]
[[Umineko_Volume_3:_Chapter_2]]
[[Umineko_Volume_3:_Chapter_3]]
[[Umineko_Volume_3:_Tips]]
[[Umineko_Volume_3:_Opening_Message]]
[[Umineko_Volume_3:_Endroll]]
please visit the project page for more details.


I will remove them as soon as i wake up unless someone can think of a better solution to preserve this translation or another Editor-in-Chief does it first.
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Old 2008-09-07, 18:48   Link #499
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Alright, my part of ep2, chapters 5, 6 and 7, are all done. Once sterling finishes his chapters, they will need to be inserted and checked over, get all the consistency worked out, and we'll be ready for the first umi2 patch!
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Old 2008-09-14, 10:16   Link #500
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Chapter 8 is finished... Though due my electricity being unstable right now I don't know when I'll be able to upload my stuff
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