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Old 2010-11-05, 04:06   Link #5021
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Well I don't hold enough to say anything back, but I need to correct some things with what you said.

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Sorry for not spoiling that earlier comment. I didn't bother doing so since it seems everyone in the thread has atleast read that far. Responding, adding on to what this guy added:

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Let's go back on topic; sorry for this diversion.
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Old 2010-11-05, 08:03   Link #5022
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That's what Conceptual Denial is: to deny one's concept.

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Old 2010-11-05, 08:21   Link #5023
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Great job Witch Hunters, your translation best of all.

Only a few questions I has.

Spoiler for Will's preview:


Spoiler for Will asks Shannon:
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Old 2010-11-05, 08:45   Link #5024
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1) That was completely unrelated. It was a quick introduction for Will and his view of mystery genre

2) There is no definite explanation, but Will definitely conclude "something" after that "glitch".
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Old 2010-11-05, 09:50   Link #5025
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Hi, I have a little problem with the patch for episode 7, I can't download it, don't know, can someone please tell me if the server is having problems or something and if posible can someone please upload it to Megaupload, Mediafire, Rapidshare, or any of the sort, thanks in advance.
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Old 2010-11-05, 10:19   Link #5026
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Hi, I have a little problem with the patch for episode 7, I can't download it
What happens, and what patch are you trying to download (Windows, Mac, or platform-independent zip?) I just checked and all of the mirrors are working fine.
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Old 2010-11-05, 17:22   Link #5027
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Mentioned only 3-4 times. Didn't appear at all in Episode 7.
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Old 2010-11-05, 17:50   Link #5028
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I think Erika made a good villain, at the very least. You have to admit, she's REALLY good at being the bad guy.
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Old 2010-11-05, 18:05   Link #5029
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I must say something because Erika is my fav character. Ep 8 withoud her is gonna be boring. I think that there is possibility that she is going to show in ep8 but unfortunately she wouldn't have as big role as she did in eps 5 and 6.. and
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Old 2010-11-05, 18:43   Link #5030
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Not what we are talking about. We are talking about parts of the story which have ended. For instance:

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I don’t intend for this to be the end of the story.
Episode six was the end of Battler and Beato’s tale.
Episode seven was the end of (spoilers omitted)
Episode eight is…
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Old 2010-11-05, 19:06   Link #5031
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Wait woah huh.

How can it be the end of Battler's tale? Seems kind of abrupt if that's the case.
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Old 2010-11-05, 19:10   Link #5032
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Spoiler for ep6:
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Old 2010-11-05, 19:13   Link #5033
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Yea, it's pretty much about their romance. We know everything about the relationship between the two of them, now, pretty much.
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Old 2010-11-05, 21:18   Link #5034
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How can it be the end of Battler's tale? Seems kind of abrupt if that's the case.
I think Ryukishi means it's the end of the romance tale for those two
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Old 2010-11-05, 21:26   Link #5035
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I think Erika made a good villain, at the very least. You have to admit, she's REALLY good at being the bad guy.
In my view, Erika isn't a villain, but a victim of Bernkastel's coercion. She nearly drowns and is saved by a witch, who threatens her with an endless hell for disobeying. I don't think the average person could resist acting evilly with the threat of an endless hell being held over them.

Some might say she's malicious, but I believe there's something similar to the "Beato never committed murder for the sake of pleasure" statement for her: All of her villainous acts were committed for the pleasure of intellectual competition, and not for the sake of pleasure in harming people.

Plus, she treats Episodes 5 and 6 like what they really are: the game board of a game. The characters are just "pieces" in a thought experiment/fiction, not actual people existing in reality.

Though I believe that without "love" for her, the truth of her nature cannot be seen.

Edit: Fixed typo.

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Old 2010-11-05, 21:36   Link #5036
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You mean Bern's coercion?

Though Bern never made the "endless hell" threat until partway through the 6th game, so that's not any sort of rationalization for Erika's actions. I'd rather talk about this in the appropriate thread though. Or in PMs.
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Old 2010-11-05, 23:57   Link #5037
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Anybody else think that Erika didn't fall off the yacht -- instead, she jumped?

Also, have there been any hypotheses about what's with Battler's weird name? (Why didn't he get a typical western name, and why is his name made from the meanings of the kanji, not the pronunciations?)
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Old 2010-11-06, 00:54   Link #5038
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You mean Bern's coercion?

Though Bern never made the "endless hell" threat until partway through the 6th game, so that's not any sort of rationalization for Erika's actions. I'd rather talk about this in the appropriate thread though. Or in PMs.
Except Bern did make threats to Erika in the Episode 5 ??? IIRC. I can't remember if she made anymore.
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Old 2010-11-06, 01:06   Link #5039
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Anybody else think that Erika didn't fall off the yacht -- instead, she jumped?
That could be true. But why would she jump, then?
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Old 2010-11-06, 01:30   Link #5040
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Anybody else think that Erika didn't fall off the yacht -- instead, she jumped?

Also, have there been any hypotheses about what's with Battler's weird name? (Why didn't he get a typical western name, and why is his name made from the meanings of the kanji, not the pronunciations?)
I pointed out a long while back that there was a WWII ship in the royal navy called the HMS Battler.

But a lot of people have already mentioned the similarity to "Mr.Battle" in the Christie novels.

I'll add another one to the list though. In Australia the term Aussie Battler refers to a working class of people.
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