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Old 2008-09-28, 19:32   Link #2121
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Well its ended in a 3 way and the loli survives.... a sequel to all this shall be fun indeed...
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Old 2008-10-10, 00:55   Link #2122
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Originally Posted by Kawamori's Interview in Famitsu
  • Episode 1 : Kawamori is finally be able to see the culmination of 3 years of work.
  • Kawamori on Episode 2: "I always dreamed that Minmay would have an older sister and I felt exactly that when we designed the mini duet of Ranka and Sheryl at the observatory."
  • Kawamori on Episode 4: "This was a debt to Mikimoto, who forgave me for Minmay winning her pageant. Not only him, but Matsuda Seiko (Mikimoto's inspiration for creating Minmay) never won anything as an unknown. As I was writing the script, I thought to prove that Mikimoto would have been right."
  • Kawamori on Episode 5: "This episode was written to definitively establish Sheryl as Ranka's big sister, but when we finished the script we discovered a new character through her qualities as a woman. This was our most edited script, and I still wasn't convinced this was an important character for Frontier. But Risa Ebata convinced me to give the changes a chance, and when I saw the fan response, I didn't give credit. Hours later we were in a conference with Big West to send a list of changes for episode 6 to our secondary studio."
  • Connecting to Episode 18 : Though the script has been changed as early as Episode 5 to work Sheryl's character into the story, expanding Sheryl's storyline is another matter, as Kawamori isn't sure which direction Sheryl should take, so Ohnogi asked to leave everything into his hands; he was given free reign over Episode 18+ onwards as Kawamori watched. Here, this is where Sheryl's character is "remade" and polished in Episode 22.
  • Episode 7: This episode was a gift to the mecha fans. Completely dedicated to them.
  • Episode 10 : In the second half, Kawamori's cameo [the director] was unplanned. However, it [Ranka's fame] ended up being counterproductive, as Ranka in future episodes demanded much, so Kawamori believes her fame doesn't bring her good fortune. (The phrasing was vague in some parts, but this is the best I could do.)
  • Kawamori on Episode 12 : "I only made this episode to make people angry, and from there, the kira. Someone who arrives to a battle singing nowadays isn't as crazy as in the time of Macross 7." (stray: "I think the gist of 12 is that he wanted to go from raaaage... to.... kira!")
  • Kawamori on Episode 14 : "Here I wanted to pay homage to the work of a great friend (Ohnogi)."
  • Episode 16 : Another idea of Mikimoto's. To show how a romantic idea (singing) under the perspective of whatever government lose it's romantic meaning to become an instrument of war.
  • Kawamori on Episode 17 : He's teasing fans who didn't get the pineapple salad concept; it's not fatal for Skull Leaders, just womanizers. That Roy was Skull Leader and a womanizer was just a coincidence.
  • Kawamori on Episode 20 : "This was the most difficult episode I've had to direct in my career. I read in diverse forums that people were sad. The staff was the same way. But we were able to express exactly what we intended: the desperation."
  • Kawamori on Episode 21 : "This was the end of a cycle full of trying different things. The innocent version of Ranka Lee was different from the message we were trying to convey. Ohnogi then sent her on a voyage of self discovery. It was hard for us, and for her."
  • Kawamori on Episode 22 : "Humility is the word. Ohnogi stopped here to polish sheryl. This episode is full of tests of humility."
  • Episode 23 : Family, the simple life. Dreams and actions. A good episode to show the real motivations of the main characters.
  • Kawamori on Episode 24 : "The last frontier of the heart is yourself. The fans loved the scenes of Alto and Sheryl, and I must say, so did I! They look great on screen. (laughs)"
  • Episode 25 was Kawamori's dream made reality.

Q1 : How would you define frontier with respect to your previous work?

Kawamori : "While Macross plus is a history where conflict arises in profound mental and physical trauma, adding emotional problems, in Frontier I wanted to express the type of conflict that could occur if it is not possible to understand suitably. To continue, Frontier is an example of the tragedies that can occur when [one] could not understand someone, by the fault of lacking a suitable language."

Kawamori on Macross Frontier Movie : The Macross Frontier movie will follow the guideline of "Do You Remember Love, I'd like for all to see Frontier on the big screen, with great sound."

On Kawamori's episode 25 vision, I'm assuming this is what the movie is for, to encompass everything as a whole while Kawamori took the chance in the TV series to see his vision spread out (even if it means sacrificing the structure built up from the last few episodes? Perhaps, perhaps not.)
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Old 2008-10-10, 04:47   Link #2123
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I love the translations... makes a lot of sense about why the ending didn't fit the build-up and so-forth.

It's interesting that at first concept Sheryl was only staged as the "big-sister" to Ranka, nothing more.

And what a surprise it was... Sheryl eventually turned out to be one of the best female leads to come out in years.
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Old 2008-10-10, 05:15   Link #2124
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I love the translations... makes a lot of sense about why the ending didn't fit the build-up and so-forth.

It's interesting that at first concept Sheryl was only staged as the "big-sister" to Ranka, nothing more.

And what a surprise it was... Sheryl eventually turned out to be one of the best female leads to come out in years.
that is why all leaders have to have advisors and why dictators never do well. It was wise of Kawamori to listen to the people that suggested the changes to Sheryl and he was smart enough to put his pride aside and let Ohnogi take the reins from episode 18-24. Still, he wouldn't let go of the final episode, but that is director and creator prerogative
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Old 2008-10-10, 08:02   Link #2125
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Old 2008-10-10, 12:39   Link #2126
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On Kawamori's episode 25 vision, I'm assuming this is what the movie is for, to encompass everything as a whole while Kawamori took the chance in the TV series to see his vision spread out (even if it means sacrificing the structure built up from the last few episodes? Perhaps, perhaps not.)
Just to add a couple blurbs I had some trouble with yesterday:

on episode 18: "It was cruel, because we pushed Sheryl to the limit farther than any other character until the end of the series, but I think this is where we see Sheryl Nome reborn by Ohnogi."

On episode 16: re Mikimoto's idea of music as a weapon... "This was something Mikimoto had considered we touch upon in TVA" (I have no idea what TVA is...)
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Old 2008-10-10, 13:06   Link #2127
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totally awesome. It's really interesting that Sheryl's role wasn't even nailed down when they were in production. Heh, he actually did read boards to see fan reaction too. That's great. A lot of times people make things and never take the time to view feedback until the series is completely over.
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Old 2008-10-10, 18:14   Link #2128
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Just to add a couple blurbs I had some trouble with yesterday:

on episode 18: "It was cruel, because we pushed Sheryl to the limit farther than any other character until the end of the series, but I think this is where we see Sheryl Nome reborn by Ohnogi."

On episode 16: re Mikimoto's idea of music as a weapon... "This was something Mikimoto had considered we touch upon in TVA" (I have no idea what TVA is...)
TVA= SDF Macross (the firts series).

Shaloom (the one that did the translation to spanish) usually refers to SDF Macross as MacrossTVA or just TVA.
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Old 2008-10-10, 18:22   Link #2129
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On episode 16: re Mikimoto's idea of music as a weapon... "This was something Mikimoto had considered we touch upon in TVA" (I have no idea what TVA is...)
If I remember correctly, Mikimoto already got his wish in Macross II, which he did the character designs.

The way songs were used as a weapon in Macross II made Ranka's Aimo OG look like a cupcake. Say what you will about Macross II, but when you have an entire fleet of emulators singing the songs of death, its a sight to behold, really

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Old 2008-10-11, 02:15   Link #2130
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Kawamori on Episode 24 : "The last frontier of the heart is yourself. The fans loved the scenes of Alto and Sheryl, and I must say, so did I! They look great on screen. (laughs)"
Best part.

I see Kawamori is more a mecha porn type then the people working with him. Interesting stuff abut Sheryl.
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Old 2008-10-11, 13:16   Link #2131
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TVA= SDF Macross (the firts series).
Ah... thanks. I joined that forum and gave some respect to shaloom for translating them initially... seems like a cool community although Spanish takes me some time to read. Feel free to add to what crisis and I put up.

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If I remember correctly, Mikimoto already got his wish in Macross II, which he did the character designs.

The way songs were used as a weapon in Macross II made Ranka's Aimo OG look like a cupcake. Say what you will about Macross II, but when you have an entire fleet of emulators singing the songs of death, its a sight to behold, really

- Tak
I still haven't watched Macross II... one of these days...

Anyway the rest of the article is about Frontier as a financial and artistic success, apparently sponsors were skeptical at first but now are overjoyed, more and more licensors jumped on board throughout the course of the series, and of course the fact that the ride is not even over yet. Kawamori was pleased that the fandom was split on the ending, but given the number of changes made throughout the series it was to be expected. Leading into Kawamori's favorites and a blurb on each.

There's a bit there about the Vajra as a species, and how they are further along the evolutionary scale. The gist being that there is a scientific theory that postulates that evolution begins with the digestive system, and blooms from there to the heart, and then the mind. It sounds somewhat an actualization theory; that all intelligent species would likely follow a similar path. Once biological needs are met, pursuits of the heart would follow, and from there a species would turn to understanding the secrets of the universe. These are the Vajra.

In regard to the future of the franchise, he basically just talks up romance as the lynchpin of the Macross franchise; and says the lines about society and not having to choose that I'm sure everyone's heard. Then he follows with the line about the movie following DYRL and that pretty much wraps the interview.

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Best part.

I see Kawamori is more a mecha porn type then the people working with him. Interesting stuff abut Sheryl.
Well he is the mecha designer... but he's also a dirty free love hippy, with an older sister complex.

Sheryl oniichan end confirmed!
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Old 2008-10-11, 14:31   Link #2132
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man i wish more sponsors would have been on board in the beginning. Less outsourced animation.

Also a fleet of war songstress in Macross 2 would have be utterly dominated by Basara sama. He already turned one fleet of war monger warrior women into throngs of fangirls.
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Oh, and a slight revision/addition to the episode 10 blurb... because I think I read previously that the episode was unplanned? So things make a bit more sense in that context. The whole blurb is kind of jumbled, but the gist is that Kawamori always wanted to see (in remembrance of his previous work) how his newer characters would enjoy themselves being able to see a movie about the adventures of his past characters. (hmm... the rationale behind DYRL being an in-universe movie?) The cameo was unplanned. (Ranka's cameo in the movie, since the whole episode was IIRC unplanned?) "But it ended up being counterproductive, as much was demanded of Ranka in later episodes; I don't think it brought her good fortune."

Edit: it's really not clear to me whether Ranka herself became demanding, her character became demanding to the story, or... what makes the most sense is that the the demands placed on her by her newfound fame took her in a negative direction. Take it for what it's worth.
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Old 2008-10-12, 12:11   Link #2134
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As I just returned from a weekend trip, I want to take this opportunity to thank Stray and Crisis for their most excellent translation.

Man, do I now wish that the other guy would also have done ep 25, instead of Kawamori....
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Old 2008-10-12, 13:43   Link #2135
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Well, Kawamori isn't killing off the old, but hating on the players Thanks a lot mate for the translations.
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Old 2008-10-19, 23:03   Link #2136
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wow that very nice translation! Give some good insider info on Sheryl Character, I am glad they change the way they are
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Old 2008-10-20, 22:07   Link #2137
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I so glad they changed their initial concept of Sheryl. Honestly, I really would not want her to be just Ranka's "older sister." We better thank Ohnogi for polishing Sheryl.

I wonder who's more popular Ranka or Sheryl????
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I so glad they changed their initial concept of Sheryl. Honestly, I really would not want her to be just Ranka's "older sister." We better thank Ohnogi for polishing Sheryl.

I wonder who's more popular Ranka or Sheryl????
A-men!

Depends on where you go, but I think overall Sheryl is the more popular female character, then Klan and then Ranka.
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Old 2008-10-21, 09:55   Link #2139
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Episode 25 was Kawamori's dream made reality.
I lol'd.

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I so glad they changed their initial concept of Sheryl. Honestly, I really would not want her to be just Ranka's "older sister." We better thank Ohnogi for polishing Sheryl.
This is the first time that fan's demand actually made me happy ! 0.o;
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Old 2008-10-22, 00:48   Link #2140
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Figured out that the pineapple salad affects womanizers after the events of ep 20. But when was that pattern established before? Was it in Macross 7? Was there a womanizer character in that series?

This anti-womanizer thing seems to go against the "threesome" ending we had, but then one could say that Alto wasn't actively pursuing any girl, they just throw themselves at him.
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